Small server they've got there
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dtfinch
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It was slashdotted before it the article was visible to non-subscribers. Sorry I was unable to make a copy for the rest of you. But basically it gives no more information than you see here.
Mirror of article
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SiliconJesus
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Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.
This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.
We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.
Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.
-- Clinton made me a Republican.
Bush made me a Libertarian.
Trump is making me question reality.
The shit will hit the fan + Mirror
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Dr+Reducto
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The server is already slashdotted, but I think this is major if it is true. Microsoft's legal dept is probably planning an all-nighter tonight, and will be working in shifts to frantically sue people who are connected in any way with this.
Here is a Mirror Though, just so you can RTFA. I could barely get through even before it was "published":
"Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.
This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.
We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department."
If this is true, the shit will definitely hit the fan. I wonder how this was done. The IP contained in Win2k/NT is worth BILLIONS(arguably). They obviously would have some serious security on it.
On a lighter note: When will we see some tricked out Windows 2000 "Distros"?,Could this potentially help the WINE Project?, Is anyone working on replacing IE with Konquerer?, Will this be able to help the effort to make driver "wrappers"?
Article Text
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Anonymous Coward
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"Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing."
"This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about."
"We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department."
"Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code."
The comment from the website
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Anonymous Coward
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Exclusive: Windows 2000 & Windows NT 4 Source Code Leaks
Posted by creamhackered on 13 Feb 2004 - 00:22 | 217 comments
Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.
This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.
We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.
Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.
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Anonymous Coward
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mirrors, we need mirrors!!!
First Post
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Anonymous Coward
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Re:So is this the beginning of something...
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thelasttemptation
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Hell no! NO wine/winex/reactos/programmer should even click on any link anywhere near where tehy might find the source code. THEY CAN NOT LET THIS EFFECT THE WORK!
Talk about killing the programs, who's gonna pay the legal bills when MS sues the shit out of the projects and everyone who's a dev? Esp when it's a clear cut case that they ripped it? You?
No, no dev will go near this ever...
Re:I'll believe it when I see it.
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Zork+the+Almighty
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Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news.
Stephen King is DEAD! Nooooooooo!!!!!
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In Soviet America the banks rob you!
Effect on OSS code writers
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elwing
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In addition to the security implications this has, think about the implications this has on OSS writers? Previously, M$ tried to show the souce code to Windows to college students in the hope that they couldn't write OSS code because they'd have seen the Windows source.
This gives M$ a leg to stand on if they attempt to claim that any OSS has Windows code in it.
Any OSS writer that manages to get the code should proceed with caution.
DO NOT LOOK AT THE CODE!
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Theovon
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This is serious. The last thing the open source community needs is for Microsoft to have an excuse to claim that some of THEIR code has shown up in the Linux kernel. As long as open source developers keep their eyes away from the code, they won't be influenced, and thus they will not write code which Microsoft can claim resembles Windows code too much.
In fact, this is such a huge problem for open source, that I would not be surprised if Microsoft leaked the code intentionally. See, it doesn't MATTER if they leaked their code. It'll never hurt their business, because anyone who steals code will get a prompt visit from Microsoft lawyers and a copyright violation suit. If Microsoft even can find half an excuse to sue you over this, you will starve to death, because they'll take everything you have.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Free Software community: PLEASE, keep yourself clean here. I know it's tempting to look at the code so you have something to snicker at, but TRUST ME, you just do not want to open up that can of worms.
On the other hand, if you never intend to contribute to a high-profile open source project, please, feel free to look at the code all you like. It's probably something good to amuse yourself with.
SCO is a gnat on the windshield of IBM. But even IBM would not enjoy taking on Microsoft. Besides, Microsoft would never be foolish enough to go after IBM. They'd just sue the little people who can't defent themselves. And it doesn't even matter if they lose, because Microsoft will run you in the ground just on legal fees. They will make your lawyer rich and yourself destitute.
Sound alarmist? This is Microsoft we're talking about here. Every day, they thumb their noses at the DOJ settlement and its ineffective orders. Microsoft is STILL very much a danger to everyone.
Re:If this is true...
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bonch
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Companies and universities have had access to Windows source for decades.
No, this "won't be the day that changes everything." Don't be so melodramatic...
Re:So much for security through obscurity
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Frymaster
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abreviations and acronyms have gotten out of control!
tell me about it. i can't tell if you're supposed to be m.w. heeler or m. wheeler!
Quoth the Ballmer on this subject:
"I can assure you that we know there has been no compromise of the integrity of the source code; that it has not been modified or tampered with in any way."
Okay... it hasn't been modified... but is the source loose in the wild or not?
Here's where I found it.
-- apple nipple hungry
what the hell am I downloading then?
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mr.mack
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from itvibe.com:
Steve Ballmer, Chief Executive and President of Microsoft has said in a statement,
"I can assure you that we know there has been no compromise of the integrity of the source code; that it has not been modified or tampered with in any way."
Panic over then.
Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
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dgatwood
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Linux source code leaked! -- BREAKING NEWS
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napsterposter
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It is being reported that the Linux source code has been leaked. This could be devastating for RedHat and other companies that rely on Linux.
Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
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And if you are an open-source software developer and you look over the WinBlows source code, you are likely to introduce those security exploits into your open-source project.
Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
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ack, i must've used proprietary source from windows in my apps:(
Here is a link to the real source code(no really). Check it out and lots of laughs. www.albinoblacksheep.com
Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
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(For the more literal-minded Slashdot readers: no I haven't really seen the code. This is a cheap jab at Microsoft, implying their code is derivative of unix and linux code,)
wouldn't that make windows more secure?
FUZZY MATH in press release comments...
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It was reported that this couldn't possible be the entire source because the source is 40 million lines and a total of 40 gigabytes.
Let's do the math...
40000000000 / 40000000 = 1000 characters per line.
Doesn't that seem a little lengthy? I mean, really...
-- Daniel Gwozdz (VWSpeedRacer)
I have fucking pissed in my mothers mouth!
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Anonymous Coward
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Hey, out of 2000+ comments, it HAS to be insightful!
CBC: Windows source code leaked, says Microsoft
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SEATTLE - Microsoft said late Thursday parts of the source code for its Windows 2000 and Windows NT 4.0 operating systems have been illegally leaked over the internet.
The source code leak could allow hackers to attack machines running some versions of Windows.
A spokesperson for Microsoft told The Associated Press that the company had just learned about the leak and is investigating.
Microsoft spokesperson Tom Pilla says it doesn't appear the company's corporate network has been breached.
While the company has provided parts of its source code to U.S. government agencies, foreign governments and universities, it does argue its code is proprietary and is not public.
-- ___Abuse of power comes as no surprise___
Re:Hi mom!
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Anonymous Coward
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hell yeah!
Re:It's a TRAP!!! /Adm. Ackbar
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Anonymous Coward
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its atrap its anbelivible world so satisficated sharon
It was slashdotted before it the article was visible to non-subscribers. Sorry I was unable to make a copy for the rest of you. But basically it gives no more information than you see here.
Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.
This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.
We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.
Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.
Clinton made me a Republican. Bush made me a Libertarian. Trump is making me question reality.
The server is already slashdotted, but I think this is major if it is true. Microsoft's legal dept is probably planning an all-nighter tonight, and will be working in shifts to frantically sue people who are connected in any way with this. Here is a Mirror Though, just so you can RTFA. I could barely get through even before it was "published": "Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing. This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about. We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department." If this is true, the shit will definitely hit the fan. I wonder how this was done. The IP contained in Win2k/NT is worth BILLIONS(arguably). They obviously would have some serious security on it. On a lighter note: When will we see some tricked out Windows 2000 "Distros"? ,Could this potentially help the WINE Project?, Is anyone working on replacing IE with Konquerer?, Will this be able to help the effort to make driver "wrappers"?
"Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing." "This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about." "We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department." "Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code."
Exclusive: Windows 2000 & Windows NT 4 Source Code Leaks Posted by creamhackered on 13 Feb 2004 - 00:22 | 217 comments Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing. This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about. We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department. Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.
mirrors, we need mirrors!!!
First Post!
Yay! :D
Now we'll have all sorts of new viruses and worms....
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Albino Black sheep
Hell no! NO wine/winex/reactos/programmer should even click on any link anywhere near where tehy might find the source code. THEY CAN NOT LET THIS EFFECT THE WORK!
Talk about killing the programs, who's gonna pay the legal bills when MS sues the shit out of the projects and everyone who's a dev? Esp when it's a clear cut case that they ripped it? You?
No, no dev will go near this ever...
Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news.
Stephen King is DEAD!
Nooooooooo!!!!!
In Soviet America the banks rob you!
In addition to the security implications this has, think about the implications this has on OSS writers? Previously, M$ tried to show the souce code to Windows to college students in the hope that they couldn't write OSS code because they'd have seen the Windows source.
This gives M$ a leg to stand on if they attempt to claim that any OSS has Windows code in it.
Any OSS writer that manages to get the code should proceed with caution.
on the
floor
laughing...
thanks
This is serious. The last thing the open source community needs is for Microsoft to have an excuse to claim that some of THEIR code has shown up in the Linux kernel. As long as open source developers keep their eyes away from the code, they won't be influenced, and thus they will not write code which Microsoft can claim resembles Windows code too much.
In fact, this is such a huge problem for open source, that I would not be surprised if Microsoft leaked the code intentionally. See, it doesn't MATTER if they leaked their code. It'll never hurt their business, because anyone who steals code will get a prompt visit from Microsoft lawyers and a copyright violation suit. If Microsoft even can find half an excuse to sue you over this, you will starve to death, because they'll take everything you have.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Free Software community: PLEASE, keep yourself clean here. I know it's tempting to look at the code so you have something to snicker at, but TRUST ME, you just do not want to open up that can of worms.
On the other hand, if you never intend to contribute to a high-profile open source project, please, feel free to look at the code all you like. It's probably something good to amuse yourself with.
SCO is a gnat on the windshield of IBM. But even IBM would not enjoy taking on Microsoft. Besides, Microsoft would never be foolish enough to go after IBM. They'd just sue the little people who can't defent themselves. And it doesn't even matter if they lose, because Microsoft will run you in the ground just on legal fees. They will make your lawyer rich and yourself destitute.
Sound alarmist? This is Microsoft we're talking about here. Every day, they thumb their noses at the DOJ settlement and its ineffective orders. Microsoft is STILL very much a danger to everyone.
Companies and universities have had access to Windows source for decades.
No, this "won't be the day that changes everything." Don't be so melodramatic...
tell me about it. i can't tell if you're supposed to be m.w. heeler or m. wheeler!
2 1337 4 u!
Quoth the Ballmer on this subject: "I can assure you that we know there has been no compromise of the integrity of the source code; that it has not been modified or tampered with in any way." Okay... it hasn't been modified... but is the source loose in the wild or not? Here's where I found it.
apple nipple hungry
from itvibe.com:
Steve Ballmer, Chief Executive and President of Microsoft has said in a statement, "I can assure you that we know there has been no compromise of the integrity of the source code; that it has not been modified or tampered with in any way." Panic over then.
doesn't really count.... :-)
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It is being reported that the Linux source code has been leaked. This could be devastating for RedHat and other companies that rely on Linux.
And if you are an open-source software developer and you look over the WinBlows source code, you are likely to introduce those security exploits into your open-source project.
ack, i must've used proprietary source from windows in my apps :(
/*variable*/
int i;
Here is a link to the real source code(no really).
Check it out and lots of laughs.
www.albinoblacksheep.com
(For the more literal-minded Slashdot readers: no I haven't really seen the code. This is a cheap jab at Microsoft, implying their code is derivative of unix and linux code,)
wouldn't that make windows more secure?
It was reported that this couldn't possible be the entire source because the source is 40 million lines and a total of 40 gigabytes. Let's do the math... 40000000000 / 40000000 = 1000 characters per line. Doesn't that seem a little lengthy? I mean, really...
Daniel Gwozdz (VWSpeedRacer)
Hey, out of 2000+ comments, it HAS to be insightful!
Windows source code leaked, says Microsoft
SEATTLE - Microsoft said late Thursday parts of the source code for its Windows 2000 and Windows NT 4.0 operating systems have been illegally leaked over the internet. The source code leak could allow hackers to attack machines running some versions of Windows. A spokesperson for Microsoft told The Associated Press that the company had just learned about the leak and is investigating. Microsoft spokesperson Tom Pilla says it doesn't appear the company's corporate network has been breached. While the company has provided parts of its source code to U.S. government agencies, foreign governments and universities, it does argue its code is proprietary and is not public.
___Abuse of power comes as no surprise___
hell yeah!
its atrap
its anbelivible world
so satisficated
sharon