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NoPants writes "Another big name looks like it's going to shack up with Linux. Shuttle, the maker of those small little cube looking PCs, is adopting Mandrake Linux with their newest network appliance XPCs. You can check out a review of the machine at Sudhian."
...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.
George W Bush is the right man for the job right now! We need a leader to confront the world and make it safe for democracy!
hehehehehehehehe. ouch.
this is not a first post.
I hope high gas prices are depriving your children, you fucking dumbass.
that's a shit
Shuttle has bundled Mandrake with it's barebones and motherboards for a long time now.
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Not even 5 or so comments and this server is /.'ed. You guys are a menace.
I'm not gay but linux sure is.
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He now makes much of his decorations from the war in Vietnam, to appeal to centrists and conservatives, without reminding those audiences that he for long was a leader of Vietnam veterans against the war. Indeed, assiduous searchers, looking for his vulnerabilities, will find much of interest in that period of his life.
For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.
"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.
It is that sort of thing that senators don't have to worry about. But if they become a front-runner for president, the whole ball-game changes. Their past is scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb. In Kerry's case, for example, he has shown precious little interest in Asia since his tour in Vietnam, and there is little doubt that he will follow the standard Democratic party, pro-Beijing, line. But every word he's ever spoken on it will be scrutinized.
That is why it is not only true that a week is a long time in politics. But, as they say in American politics, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."
Linux is good. I want small portable linux system instead of laptop. Laptop is heavy too heavy for I. Laptop harddrive access is slow. Big PC has too many fan and is loud.
Shuttle. Sounds like that's going to be a disaster.
Something is happening here, and I'm getting a little worried. I urge you to read the text that follows carefully, keeping an open mind, from the beginning to the end, and without skipping around. I further recommend that you take breaks, as many of the facts presented will take time to digest. Given George W. Bush's record of shady dealings, we can say that there's a time to keep silent and a time to speak. There's a time to love and a time to hate. There's a time for war and a time for peace. And, I claim, there's a time to bear witness to the plain, unvarnished truth. Or, to put it less poetically, Bush insists that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. Sorry, Bush, but, with apologies to Gershwin, "it ain't necessarily so." He operates on an international scale to authorize, promote, celebrate, and legitimize inhumane obscurantism. It's only fitting, therefore, that we, too, work on an international scale, but to inculcate in the reader an inquisitive spirit and a skepticism about beliefs that Bush's proxies take for granted. Does Bush have trouble living with himself, knowing that his appeal to incendiarism is dangerous stuff? He doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't provide you with vital information which he has gone to great lengths to prevent you from discovering.
I, hardheaded cynic that I am, do not propose a supernatural solution to the problems we're having with him. Instead, I propose a practical, realistic, down-to-earth approach that requires only that I encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. I have had enough of his waste, fraud, misfeasance, and malfeasance. But there's the rub; I don't need to tell you that he unmistakably dropped a clanger by admitting that he seems to have no trouble sweet-talking intolerant, biased utopians into helping him replace intellectual integrity with amateurish sloganeering. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that he never tires of trying to extinguish fires with gasoline. Bush presumably hopes that the magic formula will work some day. In the meantime, he seems to have resolved to learn nothing from experience, which tells us that to say that we should all bear the brunt of his actions is nasty nonsense and untrue to boot. Bush is the picture of the insane person on the street, babbling to a tree, a wall, or a cloud, which cannot and does not respond to his demands. In order to understand the motivation behind his complaints, it is important first to build a world overflowing with compassion and tolerance. The word "epididymodeferentectomy" is so compromised that I retain it only as a pejorative. And I can say that with a clear conscience, because I have no idea why he makes such a big fuss over hooliganism. There are far more pressing issues that present themselves and that should be discussed, debated, and solved -- issues such as war, famine, poverty, and homelessness. There is also the lesser issue that Bush presents one face to the public, a face that tells people what they want to hear. Then, in private, he devises new schemes to panic irrationally and overreact completely. The baneful nature of Bush's analects is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify.
Nevertheless, if we are powerless to shatter the adage that Bush has his moral compass in tact, it is because we have allowed Bush to yield this country to the forces of darkness, oppression, and tyranny. As another disquieting tidbit, the following must be stated: All the deals he makes are strictly one-way. Bush gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. It is amazing to me that he would dare to criticize someone or something without carefully reading what was written. It's that simple.
Bush is sympathetic to officious causes of all stripes. Surprised? You shouldn't be, because it is not uncommon for Bush to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole possession-obsessed affair as some great benefit to hum
more like SHITTLE
What you talkin' about Willis?
And not to be confused with those large, big cube looking ones.
Bottom line: Mandrake was easier and faster to install than XP. It had just as many pretty pictures, and it required less knowledge on the part of the user regarding networking, hardware, etc. It took 40 minutes instead of 50, and required only one reboot as opposed to the nine+ required to install XP. And when it was done, the reviewer had far more applications ready to run installed on the machine.
His conclusion was that Linux is indeed ready for the desktop.
John
On a somewhat related note, there's a recent article on anandtech about the Asus DigiMatrix, a barebone computer aimed at people building a home-theater PC. that's one sexy box, with a volume knob and case buttons and an LCD, video capture card, radio tuner, tv tuner, gigabit ethernet, wireless ethernet, DVD/CD-RW, embedded audio-player OS, 7-in-1 card reader...
I'm seriously considering getting one of these and making a linux media station / fileserver. Obviously Asus supports only Win2k and WinXP, but it seems like a fun challenge getting all those cutting-edge hardware components to run in linux. Most of them, even the ethernet controller, are so new they aren't directly supported in the kernel yet. And getting all the various Linux media applications to start up and obey the case buttons automatically based on what is inserted sounds like a software project in itself.
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What exactly qualifies this small form factor computer as a network applicance?
I'm just curious...
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This is where things start to pick up...
With a Linux distro bundled with hardware, buyers of said hardware do not need to go on their own initiative to download and install linux. It is right at their fingertips, bundled with their new barebone. They've just bought a Penguin Powered system, and chances are they will try linux out and not just delete it...... And then they will see the light.....
And this is where Linux on the Desktop really starts to expand......
Let it begin.
Defenestrate Windows...
"Another big name looks like it's going to shack up with Linux."
Linux seems to really get around. But what will the children look like?
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Interesting topic, Shuttle XPC Linux Network Appliance.
A PC+Linux isn't a network appliance, its still a PC. A true network appliance, is a raid array with an ethernet adapter, its a piece of hardware performing a function.
Before you say, well yes the computer can do it also.. You have install and set it up. Appliances in general are stupid things that are cheap and easy to replace, you just plug in and turn on. PC's are not appliances.
Little pet peeve, but really if you don't care for HD's and the whole 1000k vs 1024K, this is along those lines. Use the correct terms you hackers.
Stop the presses!
Is it still a big deal when a computer maker spares you the download?
Huh? Was this created by some sort of computer program or did you write when you were drunk or high? The comment is incoherent and completely fails to substantiate any of its points. Why you posted this makes no sense to me.
why not offshore michael's worthless job??
I just built out my own Shuttle system a couple of weeks ago, based around the SB65G2 and a P4 3Ghz. Unless you've seen one in person, the "cube" format is smaller than you expect from pictures.
The quality of the case and motherboard are very impressive, the cooling solution for such a small system is very clever. In addition, the instructions that came with the system are very clear, with photographs that detail each step of the build.
I'm dual booting it between XP and Redhat 9, and both are running great on the system.
-- Bander
What we need more of is science!
the goatse domain got owned like a month ago
Another good article from these guys.
My point is, surely your experience of installing an OS is largely dependant on the *extra* hardware that you have e.g. 802.11b card etc
I think it is great that Linux can get a fairly "standard" PC up and running without too much hastle these days. However, it is the glitches encountered with "non-standard" PCs that mean it isn't quite ready for the end users desktop.
Just my two pennies worth...
Another big name... Shuttle, the maker of those small little cube looking PCs...
Heh.
One man's -1 Flamebait is another man's +5 Funny.
Sorry for having to mention this, but we get spam from Shuttle Germany: ``If you don't want this kind of email, then please answer with "No Mail".''
I will never do business with Shuttle. Shuttle in Germany is a spam supporting company.
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I have a Creative Labs TNT PCI video card that I could never get to work properly with Windows 98. The card worked perfectly with xfree86, and I have it currently installed in the Linux server next to me. Sometimes Windows just doesn't work with some hardware, and it's considered ready for the desktop.
Nascantur in Admiratione. (Let them be born in Wonder)
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How long will it take until they start making these things with heatpipes and large heatsinks and without fans?
I'd much rather have a passively cooled box with a transmeta crusoe/efficeon or VIA C3 and a PVR350 card, than a box that can do software encoding+decoding and needs lots of fans.
A good illustration of the ease of use of a multiple boot system, it dispells the myth held by some that Windows XP and Linix do not mix. With a modern boot manager everyone should be able to run applications of choice on the whatever operatings system is best suited to the application, all this in one little box can't be all bad.
could somebody please tell me?
first post!!! you lame assholes... I can post first because my XBox is a american product and my pride in my great country and my great XBox accelerate everything...
If only they would make games for that bitch... IAve played Metroid Prime and it ruled... I hope M$ will buy those japanese bastards and port Metroid to my great american console system!!!
Join the fun!!!
...now 2.6GHz machines with 800MHz FSB's and HT are "network appliances?"
I guess nobody told my P4-1.4 that, because it's certainly handling its duties as a web/file server, router and workstation quite well.
is shuttle suitable? has anyone tried? what about noise?
... this could fill in a bit of market gap left by the Cobalt line, maybe? I know I'm interested in this anyway.
C|N>K
Now shipping with Linux (and it installs easier than XP)! Holy cow! How did the future sneak up on us like that?
...as RedHat NEVER actually cared about user expierence so much as Mandrake have all the time. Ok, for some time and still Mandrake Linux 9.2 initial release was too buggy, BUT things are improving, if we are talking about user interface side. Configuration tools and update system in Mandrake are clean and very well thought (don't talking about rpm depency here, only graphical interface). All things mentioned by reviewer also have made my life easer (don't looking to that I'm advanced Linux sysadmin). People starts to pick those things what Mandrake have envolved and extended for years. Good for them. As I have left them as my favorite platform - using Debian now - but still, Galaxy as default theme for both KDE and GNOME rocks as their many configuration tools. And it has the best solution in Linux how to mount SMB share in GUI.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
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Ah, bugger it, there's no point trying to teach you people.
I don't know what kind of crack some of you are smoking about having to reboot continuously with Windows XP. I use both Linux and Windows and I rarely have to reboot either. Anyone who says otherwise is just spouting fud.
This thing is a toy. It has no application other than that of a toy. "Big Name"????? Big name in WHAT?
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
I bought a Shuttle SS51G about this time last year. 1.7 GHz Celeron, 512 MB of RAM and an 80 GB hard drive. I originally stuck Mandrake on there, then after a month, moved to Debian (testing). I've been running Debian on there since, and I must say it is a very nice fit.
No matter where you go... there you are.
Shuttles make great Home Theater PC's. I have been using one for several months now. Linux support for this type of hobby is growing as well.
Using one of these you can build a device for your home theater that will handle MP3's, DVD's, DIVX, Pictures and act like a TIVO.
Adding Linux to the mix could make pre-configured HTPC boxes as common as DVD players. Maybe even for sale at Walmart.
http://www.kubuntu.org/
*This site is optimized for Netscape 4.5, Mozilla 1.0 and IE 5.0 or above.
This may be a good company to support(with purchases). Thier left hand and right hand seem to be coordinated.
True genius is grasping a situation like a peice of fruit, and peircing it just right so that it drains dry.
The review includes a mouseclick-for-click comparison of installing XP vs Mandrake. Big deal - you may spend an hour or two installing chipset/graphics/other drivers and rebooting under windows. The real test is how long common operations take to complete.
/etc/smb.conf' and read the samba HOWTO
For example, how long does it take to share out a directory of MP3's on linux so another machine on your network can access it?
Under windows it's a few mouse clicks and about 1 minute's work.
In Linux it's 'vi
Sharing a printer on the LAN is a similar task
How about cutting a CD - most burners ship with some sort of burning software for Windows (e.g. Nero 5). Under Linux say hello to 'mkisofs', 'cdrecord' and another HOWTO. If you want to burn an audio CD of MP3's, you're in a world of pain.
How about setting up Internet connection sharing and firewalling. Once again, Linux requires a black-belt in 'vi' and a HOWTO on IP Masquerading. In XP it's a job for your mouse.
Until those kinds of tasks can be acomplished with a polished GUI, the average windows user will stick with windows.
If ASUS were to release a ready to roll Linux distro with the Digimatrix, with all the required drivers (HDTV), preconfigured/ready to run out of the box with MythTV or such, they would just about own the world with this totally slick little box.
Have you tried Mandrake recently, or are you talking about some crap distro such as Debian.
Sharing files, just right click and share once you have set it up using Mandrake Control Center.
Burning a CD, say hello to K3b, the easiest Linux burning software.
Setting up a firewall is a job for your mouse in Mandrake as well.
Please stop spreading fud. Mandrake makes things easy, you are now on my foes list.
If he had he would have seen screenshots of "those kinds of tasks" being "acomplished with a polished GUI"
I can see it now - budget PCs sold with Linux to make them cheaper. Consumers who don't know/care about Linux get it and spend years complaining to everyone about how the computer can't do X and Y.
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It doesn't inconvenience them. Otherwise you've just got an annoyed Microsoft customer using Linux cdroms as coasters.
Might be good for people already familiar with Linux or who want to make the switch. But for a new user to convert its going to have to do something better then the current standard (which like it or not is Windows). Something that will actually positively effect their day to day use or give them some ragging rights. Like preinstalled MythTV.
Quack, quack.
Idiot,
Mandrake* has had every item the moron mentioned covered to some degree for quite awhile now.
*as well as every other distro, I use Mandrake myself since ~8.x days, (usually run cooker snapshots now though) Mandrake is usually ahead of SUSE as far as Desktop functionality, but it is a good race.
I will withold any opinions on Fedora until I see it work right, perhaps they just need time, they seem to be getting there.
This guy works in tech support for Shuttle... check his post history!
GO LINUX! DIE MICROSOFT! WOO!
Have you metaroderated recently?
I am interested to see the kind of support available for Linux on the MSI Mega180 sytem. It should be fairly straightforward as it is nForce2, but I still wouldn't expect the LCD or remote to be easy to talk to -- might be a fun project to hack on...
This is very old info!
When I was at the CES show in Vegas a few weeks ago, I asked Shuttle about Linux. They told me they had tried Mandrake but it was a "bad experience," so they went back to using XP.
I don't think you can buy a Shuttle with Mandrake on it anymore.