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Specialized Knoppixes for Fun and Profit

An anonymous reader writes "The University of Puerto Rico High Performance Computing facility (HPCf) and the Puerto Rico Biomedical Research Infrastructure Network (BRIN-PR) are pleased to announce the release of bioknoppix. bioknoppix is a live CD linux, based on KNOPPIX, and specialized to include tools for bioinformatics. bioknoppix does not need to be installed on your computer, making it a perfect tool for workshops and demos. Some of the software included in the 0.3 release: EMBOSS 2.8.0, jemboss, artemis, clustal, Cn3D, ImageJ, BioPython, Rasmol, Bioperl, Bioconductor. For more information please see the bioknoppix home page." Reader Tussinator wrote in about a new release of ClusterKnoppix.

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  1. Hey! by GoneGaryT · · Score: 4, Funny
    Didn't you read that guy from DevX or wherever?? They could be putting TROJANS and BACKDOORS in that code!

    Sheesh (tm)

    1. Re:Hey! by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, having Knoppix around might actually slow the spread of worms. Afterall, you can't change the executable files on an already-finished CD, and therefore any exploit somebody manages to get running will be gone as soon as the system reboots.

  2. Specialization by firstadopter.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    The specialization of Linux continues. Soon we'll have linux for people born in february, Linux for spider lovers, linux for travelers..

    1. Re:Specialization by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Live Knoppix CDs are about delivering applications with a 100% predictable and tested OS platform, not about specialization of Linux.

      It is Knoppix plus layers, which remains Debian plus layers, which remains Linux plus layers.

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    2. Re:Specialization by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Linux is Linux. It doesn't really change from use to use. What we're seeing is specialization of the packages that include Linux...

    3. Re:Specialization by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well Actually, Linux for travellers might be handy...

      A knoppix CD with email software (including MTA), AbiWord, gnumeric Mozilla FireFox and a GIS package, a complement of maps, and GPS and printer support (with autodetection for USB printers).

      Just pop it in the drive at your local Web Cafe & plug in your GPS if you have one. Then go about printing custom maps with just those features you want marked, and at the scale you want.

      It'd probably be distributed as a different CD for each country (or region of larger countries like Canada, Australia, and Russia) so the maps can fit on the CD.

      On that note, does anyone know of an open source GIS package that is friendlier to the casual user (using it a few times a year) like ARCView? Last I tried to use it, GIS GRASS (5.3) was not at all intuitive, and the GRASS 5.7 development appears to be geared towards things other than usability.

      I'd really like a GIS for tasks like travel maps, garden planning, etc, and GIS GRASS doesn't fit the bill (I'm sure it's fine for professional geologists & geographers who use it every day).

    4. Re:Specialization by timeOday · · Score: 4, Interesting
      At work we're putting each of our demos on a bootable CD (using knoppix) to prevent bit rot. Some of our older demos haven't been ported to newer versions of our framework, config files get changed for other projects, etc.

      Also we mostly develop on Linux anyways (scientific stuff), but some of the people who do presentations aren't linux-savy or don't even have Linux on their laptops (can you imagine?!)

      None of thinks of each demo disk as a specialized distro, it's just an all-in-one demo disk.

  3. Ah, bootable application CDs by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is just a wonderful way of packaging certain types of application. To those who say "I don't want to reboot every time I want to play XYZ", consider this: virtual environments that can boot off a CD in a window inside your current Windows or Linux setup.

    Perhaps not the future of software distribution, but a significant part of it, nonetheless.

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  4. It's alive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That was to be expected sooner or later, the linux kernel turning conscious. I for one welcome our new live CD linux overlords.

  5. That's Knoppices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    you insensitive clod

  6. just what the doctor ordered by freeJustin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow, I'm a bioengineering major and I cant stress how useful this is, it like almost every computer in our lab has a different function due to software problems. After looking at the applications that are on the disc, I bet this well be big in schools. I wonder if they have considered doing this for other fields...

  7. Going back in time? by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember when in the days of Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS using specialized boot disks when running certain games to load only the system files that were needed for the game, no more and no less.

    It seems like this is the concept that is coming back into style here. Optimize a boot-off-CD operating system to be sure that all the applications you need are installed properly, and as soon as you're booted you have everything all set up. It's great for assuring that you know everything that's running on the PC you're working with, and that there's no extra stuff lurking in the background... even if you've never met the PC before.

    1. Re:Going back in time? by bmsleight · · Score: 5, Interesting
      This is just what Morphix allows you to do. It basically takes away the hard work of re-mastering a Knoppix CD.

      Morphix is modular, and can be adapted with less effort

      The base, the Knoppix part contains the kernel, kernel modules, hardware detection, etc. This base is left untouched. You can either a change a mainmod or add lots of minimodules.

      The are four basic images to start off with. So making you own LiveCD is much easier.

      It even possible to save you files, configuration and setting to the Morphix CD you using, ready for next boot up.

      Did I mention the GUI installer ...

      Brendan

  8. plurals by the+eighth+grader · · Score: 5, Funny

    shouldn't that be "knoppices"?

  9. KnoppMyth is cool by maharg · · Score: 4, Informative
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  10. Bioinfomatics Monoculture by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 5, Funny
    This kind of bioinformatics monoculture can only mean bioinformatics security problems ahead.

    As more and more bioinformatics parties switch to a single biostandard distribution, this leaves bioroom for bioinformatics worms to biospread unchecked.

    It's bioestimated that it would take only three biodays for a bioworm to biospread itself enough to bioDDoS an bioinnocent biostandar with as biomany as three biodozen biomachines, bioleaving biotelnet biosomewhat biolaggy.

  11. The amazing thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...is that it's happening at all today.

    Bootable DOS diskettes (not Windows, AFAIK) worked only because there was such a limited range of hardware to support. Typically the games started with a menu ("Sound card?", "Video card?", "Joystick?"). Since Windows went 32-bit, the range and complexity of the hardware we use has exploded. It's almost unimaginable to find an operating system that will correctly autodetect and autoconfigure all the possible combinations of hardware out there.

    And yet, this is what is happening. It is not 100% perfect but it's good enough to use for wide-scale distribution of software.

    I predict a big future for this method of delivering software.

  12. How about... by KoolDude · · Score: 3, Interesting


    a new topic(and icon) exclusively for Knoppix ?

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  13. LiveCDs in the enterprise? by Pantheraleo2k3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about this. You make a custom liveCD, debug it, then deploy it on your Linux boxen. The boxes don't need HDDs, you could store user data on a network server. Even if a luser tries as hard as they can to mess it up, it's all fixed with a reboot. You could make different liveCDs for different departments with the proper apps installed (e.g. OpenOffice, payroll, accounting, sales, CRM, etc)

    Anyone ever consider this?

    1. Re:LiveCDs in the enterprise? by kfg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Anyone ever consider this?

      Yes. The primary downside being the comparitively slow read times from the CD. Not a big deal for occasional use, but it can get annoying as part of your regular working enviroment.

      It works best with tasks where you typically open an app and work in it all day. Spend the money you save on the drive on memory to avoid as much swapping as possible.

      It kicks butt for receptionsit and kiosk type use.

      KFG

  14. Portability by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I would really like to see (and possibly create) would be a portable Knoppix distribution. Since Debian runs on more architecture than any other major distro, and Knoppix is Debian based, it should be fairly simple port Knoppix. How cool would to be to be able to run Linux on any mac, RISC workstation, or server with no installation?

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  15. Lovely ideea, but... by kyshtock · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Putting specialised linux on a CD is fine... but why not go the whole nine yards? Put everything you need on a USB drive and boot from there! I'm sure you don't need the entire 650/730 MB for that application... Ways to upgrade the ideea: you can use the USB drive the size you need; you can writeprotect it, you can customize it.

    Even more, MAYBE you can boot on a Virtual Machine and not need to restart... The only limitation here would be bootup time.

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    1. Re:Lovely ideea, but... by ibm5_25 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Check out Damn Small Linux [DSL] at
      • http://www.damnsmalllinux.org
        • It's under 50 mb and perfect for carrying with you.
  16. Knoppix remastering made easy. by khasim · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixRemas teringHowto

    Build it the way you want and burn it!

    Don't forget to grab an inexpensive USB memory toy and you have it all!

  17. Re:uhm by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The idea that these distros represent, however, could be very useful to gamers however. Games could come on a bootable CD at which point the game designer has complete control over the OS environment.

  18. Mod parent up. by khasim · · Score: 4, Informative

    With Knoppix, as long as you can boot the CD, you have all the applications you need, pre-installed, pre-configured, pre-tested, pre-EVERYTHING.

    It's all about the apps.

    (and a rock solid OS to run the apps on)

  19. A shift in paradigm! by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pardon the beauraucratic buzzword, but this seem like the beginnings of a really cool trend. Imagine if everyone had their own customized knoppix and USB drive. We could stop at any terminal, and immediately have our favorite working environment and saved files.

    Of course, this is merely a step towards the ultimate goal of not needing to carry anything or maybe just a small drive, and plugging that in and having instant access.

    The point, though, is that this has the potential to make anybody without a laptop a lot more portable.

  20. how about knoppix recovery/security cdroms? by walterbyrd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about a knoppix without all the openoffice stuff, that is specifically designed to recover data from crashed PCs? There is a "super-recovery" live cdrom, but it's pretty old.

    Or, how about a knoppix which searches a pc and a network for security vunerabilities? I think phlak linux is supposed to be sort of like that. But phlak linux doesn't work very well.

    I would suggest that, by default, such versions boot to command line. If any gui, it should be lightweight, like fluxbox or something. I'm talking about something for pros.

  21. What's the difference? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The strange thing with Live CDs is that we've effectively moved to really big floppies. What's the difference between an booting an Apple II and a Knoppix PC? Hardware notwithstanding, you can store a similar amount of software on each, that do similar things (word processing, graphics, games, ect.). The Apple even boots faster.

    So where is the advance in technology?

    1. Re:What's the difference? by someguy456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The strange thing about cars is that we've effectively moved to really good carriages. What's the difference between riding in a horse-drawn carriage and a new car? Speed notwithstanding, you can get to about the same places on each, and go through the same landscapes. The carriage is even more comfortable.

      So, where is the advance in technology?

  22. Bio... by sw155kn1f3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    > BioPython, Rasmol, Bioperl, Bioconductor. For more information please see the bioknoppix home page.

    Yes, but can you build biowulf cluster of these ?

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  23. Linux for Travel by core+plexus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I agree, and have been trying to do just that. ArcExplorer (free) comes in a Linux/Java version, but it is not easy to get going for the average user. I've put together some GIS data and related materials on a CD, mostly for sale to prospectors, rockhounds, and other mineral exploration, and there might be another problem: just the data alone takes from 150MB to >600MB.

    I'd love to work with others on this. I have tons of ideas relating to it.

    -cp-

  24. It's already here by pherris · · Score: 4, Funny
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  25. This is why Knoppix is cool by greendot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a windows geek and find that installing Linux gives me a headache. Don't get me wrong here, I keep trying and am getting used to the headaches.

    Along comes Morphix, and that NLP version. It made my eyes pop out. F'ing brilliant.

    Now, I'm gobbling up Knoppix distros like candy. I use them desktops and laptops when I want to experiment with Linux and ease my way into the whole thing.

    Soon, I'll go dual boot.. and eventually windows will be off all my machines.

    It makes it easy for me to get used to Linux.. and my wife to get used to the desktop. I give them to my friends to let them try. I take them to work to let other windows geeks try.

    I think this, combined with the awesome GUI's out there, is going to really help Linux in the home.

  26. Or how about an anti-spyware/virus CD? by Chordonblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Man, I'd pay real money for this! Imagine if you could build a Linux CD to scan Windows HD's for Spyware and Viruses! There'd be no need to even boot the host OS and install anything to do it.

    Of course, I don't know of any software in Linux that will scan for Windows crapware. {sigh}

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  27. Getting to be a crowded market: by dan+dan+the+dna+man · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bio-Linux
    BioBrew
    DNALinux

    I'm a developer for one of the above projects. Competition is interesting.

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  28. It's Knoppixe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry to put you down. But my vote, as native german speaker, goes to "Knoppixe".
    The "e" is pronounced as a schwa vovel. Plus the "K" is not silent!

  29. Layers by MyHair · · Score: 3, Funny

    So...ogres are like KNOPPIX?

  30. Here's how to do something similar for Windows! by WhoDaresWins · · Score: 3, Informative

    If any of you were wondering how to do something similar with Windows then now you can! I realise that this being slashdot there are going to be flames about why would you do this etc? For the simple reason that not all porgrams are available on Linux.

    Anyway coming back to the topic of how to do this for Windows. Well first of all there is this thing called Windows PE (Pre-installtion Environment) which is basically a Microsoft created bootable Windows CD for computer OEMs. Its basically a very stripped down version of Windows XP (or Win2K3) with just a command prompt and the ability to run some simple GUI programs. But this WinPE is normally only available to OEMs and system builders (but it isn't hard to find online retailers for it). However WinPE isn't very useful from a full usable system point of view. So someone has come up with a way to make your own customized WinPE like bootable Windows CD. All you need is the instructions and your own Windows CD to do it. Here's where you can find more information -

    Bart's Preinstalled Environment (BartPE) bootable live windows CD/DVD