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Cyberchondria

Makarand writes "According to this article in the San Francisco Chronicle the ever-expanding wealth of health information online is keeping hypochondriacs constantly worried. With websites devoted to every major and esoteric illness and search engines coming up with many disease possibilities when you type in a symptom, it is becoming very easy for the health-anxious to believe that they have a disease. Many continue poring through the easily available medical information even after their doctors have given them a clean bill of health."

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  1. Oh man by FrenZon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I totally have this Cyberchondria thing!

  2. See a doctor by agm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are concerned about something health related the best advice I can give is DON'T LOOK ON THE INTERNET and see a doctor. Doctors vists are a great way to get piece of mind, which IMO is well worth the cost/hassle.

    1. Re:See a doctor by CracktownHts · · Score: 5, Funny
      Doctors vists are a great way to get piece of mind

      ...but so are NYC taxi rides. The idea behind paying a doctor is that they're supposed to give you a piece of their trained mind.

    2. Re:See a doctor by ptolemu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I for one am quite paranoid when it comes to my health and refuse to search the Internet for this very reason. I have to admit though that it can just as easily have the opposite effect. But really, the best thing to do is ask someone with medical knowledge, it really is the only thing that has taken my mind off of worrying about benign symptoms.

    3. Re:See a doctor by glen604 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think most hypochondriacs try to avoid seeing doctors because doctors won't give creedence to their personal opinions about what they think they have. It seems most of them (hypochondriacs, not doctors) are more looking for sympathy than an actual solution to whatever perceived problem they might have.

    4. Re:See a doctor by Snad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doctors vists are a great way to get [peace] of mind, which IMO is well worth the cost/hassle.

      Whilst that's undoubtedly true, a lot of (mostly male) people are reluctant to visit their doctor, for a number of reasons. For men it usually comes down to macho "I'm fine, really" attitudes, whereas for women it's often due to them being uncomfortable discussing certain issues with (perhaps) their male doctor.

      Personally I did research a minor health issue I had before visiting my doctor and was gratified to find I was right with my own amateur diagnosis. That doesn't mean I sit in my darkened plastic bubble breathing filtered air and spend all day on the internet finding exotic and fascinating diseases I can convince myself I have.

      I believe this "cyberchondria" is like all other internet-afflicted problems. Those who are already prone to certain mental attitudes will simply use the internet to go overboard. Whether that's researching health matters, looking at porn, or surfing Slashdot all day is largely irrelevant. There will always be a small percentage of people who have an addictive personality. The rest of us will continue to find the [health information/porn/Slashdot] useful without getting psychotic about it.

    5. Re:See a doctor by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Doctors vists are a great way to get piece of mind, which IMO is well worth the cost/hassle.


      While this is true, I do not trust a doctor to not make mistakes. For instance, my reading online has caused friction between myself and a doctor I used to visit. He gave me a presciption, I looked it up online, found the dosage he gave me was far smaller than anything I had seen written. Upon asking him about it, he advised not reading websites when it comes to drugs. What about the drug company's website? What if you are curious how the drug works or how it was tested before coming to the market? How about the LD50 and side effects in animal testing? What about alternative medications? Ah yes, the doctor isn't making a profit if he's not pushing sheepish patients out the door as quickly as possible, with no questions.

      I will tend to take a doctor's advice, but no doctor's opinion is absolute. I would like to know why he chose a particular drug and dosage. I would also like to know some things about the medication that most people would prefer not to think about. While I wish I could find myself in a stupor of feeling comfort in what other people tell me, I can not escape the need to verify information given to me from multiple sources.

    6. Re:See a doctor by DebianRcksLindowsLie · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually wouldn't you rather have peace of mind?

      Speaking of peace of mind...set your mind at ease. The rumors are true. Click on the link in my sig.

    7. Re:See a doctor by Robert1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh god. Yes the doctor is part of a vast conspiracy to screw you out of money.

      Could you have thought that maybe, just maybe, he really did care about making you feel better, and perhaps that's why he was doing his job?

      So his dosage was low, maybe in his experience such a dosage works fine, or whatever you had was unique enough for him to lack an encyclopedic knownowledge of. He's only human and can't possibly know everything or keep up with every drug out there.

      Seriously, not everything is a conspiracy, people are just human.

    8. Re:See a doctor by spectecjr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you are concerned about something health related the best advice I can give is DON'T LOOK ON THE INTERNET and see a doctor. Doctors vists are a great way to get piece of mind, which IMO is well worth the cost/hassle.

      Doctors can also be (pick several):

      1. Only Human, not Omnipotent AllSeeing DemiGods.
      2. Overworked.
      3. Reduced to a 15 minute visit per person, max - when the average visit used to be a much larger figure only 20 years ago.
      4. Not always up on the latest research and/or information.
      5. Quick to dismiss other possibilities after arriving at a single conclusion, even if other evidence presents itself.

      Analyzing the data effectively can give you an edge over a doctor. You know your body. You know how it should work. Just be comprehensive in your analysis, and don't leave anything out.

      I was once diagnosed with tendonitis. The actual cause of the problems I was experiencing was a small boil in my armpit (due to using antiperspirants). The lump was pressing against a nerve, giving all of the same symptoms as tendonitis (the nerves are quite exposed there). Several visits later, and I diagnose the problem myself. A short course of antibiotics later, and the problem was completely gone.

      Another example:

      I was diagnosed with borderline sleep apnea by a sleep medicine center. I was waking up with severe headaches every morning, and had a wildly variable sleep cycle. The idea would have been to go on a CPAP machine, and see if I got better.

      What was the real problem?

      I'm sensitive to caffeine. I don't get the jitters or get hyper - I just get anxious. I metabolise it so quickly that in my sleep, I'd be undergoing caffeine withdrawal. That was what the headaches were. I cut out caffeine, and everything's fine now. I'm much more confident, happier, and have *no* headaches when I wake up.

      Doctors aren't infallible. If they were, they'd be magicians. They're not - they're just human. Treat them accordingly.

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    9. Re:See a doctor by Anomalous+Cowturd · · Score: 5, Funny


      So when I had a pain in my balls, I went to the doctor after a week, who prodded around, and pronounced me absolutely fine.


      Hmmm, were they really sore, with a faint bluish color perhaps? Yes, I think I see the problem. Don't worry, it's quite common. There's a very simple treatment. Even better, you can apply it yourself. Sort of a holistic approach, as it were.

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    10. Re:See a doctor by Directrix1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Piece of mind through frequent physician visits costs money. Take it from a self-diagnosed :-P hypochondriac. If you want to reduce the number of "cyberchondriacs" out there:

      DON'T just put out symptom lists, also put out comprehensive anti-symptom lists
      DON'T tout statistical inprobability as likelyhood of having or not having a disease, since statistics don't show YOUR chances of having a disease they only show the amount of people out of a sampled set who have the disease (don't even get me started on other misinterpretations of statistics)
      DO provide an open forum for discussion with doctors specializing in the field online, to allow people who still have questions to post them in a channel where they won't break the bank

      And as far as the frequent doctors visits, I don't think it would be half as big a deal if there was just some way to just talk to a MD over the phone or something. I personally hate going to see doctors. But as far as I'm concerned, when my body tells me I'm feeling horrible (whether misconceived or otherwise) I go to a doctor to get answers.

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  3. Pharmaceutical Industry? by Hyperbolix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe this is due to the growth in the Pharmaceutical industry in the United States. With advertisements on TV for drugs to cure diseases people haven't even heard of, its logical that consumers will respond. The wealth of information that is available on the internet is mind boggling to most, and I was not surprised to hear about this.

    1. Re:Pharmaceutical Industry? by kurosawdust · · Score: 5, Funny
      With advertisements on TV for drugs to cure diseases people haven't even heard of, its logical that consumers will respond.

      Don't forget the extremely vague and universal symptoms listed in the advertisements:

      If you've ever felt depressed, disappointed, been discouraged, or have in any way failed to any extent in any endeavor you have ever attempted, ask your doctor about Lobotomol.

    2. Re:Pharmaceutical Industry? by KrispyKringle · · Score: 5, Funny
      Are you afraid of bad things happening? Do you worry occasionally? Do you dislike uncomfortable social situations, or occasionally feel out of place? Do you sometimes think you may have said the wrong thing, or wish you were better at something? These are all symptoms of severe depression, an illness that effects nobody except you. It isn't normal to feel this way, and you probably are very ill.

      Depression is caused by neurochemical imbalances that result in you being a social outcast and a freak. But don't worry! Help is here! New Placeboflexin is designed to treat these symptoms, so you can resume your regular life. Ask your doctor if Placeboflexin is right for you.

      In clinical trials, subjects reported headache, dry mouth, and nausea in about the same proportions as those taking placebos. Placeboflexin might not be right for you. Ask your doctor.

    3. Re:Pharmaceutical Industry? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you've ever felt depressed, disappointed, been discouraged, or have in any way failed to any extent in any endeavor you have ever attempted, ask your doctor about Lobotomol.

      I... didn't... get...

      my... last... comment...

      modded... up...

      to... +5....

      I'm a... failure...

      will... Lobotomol (TM)

      help me?

    4. Re:Pharmaceutical Industry? by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry to say nothing will help you, Mr. Shatner.

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  4. mis-diagnosis by noelo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But sometimes doctors are wrong and mis-diagnose problems. If someone believes that they have a problem well then they can research it before looking for a second opinion

  5. Why bother with google? by filtur · · Score: 5, Funny

    I come to Slashdot for my legal and health advice.

  6. Medical students syndrome by securitas · · Score: 5, Interesting


    You don't have to be a hypochondriac to experience it. It's also known as medical students' syndrome, where perfectly normal and reasonable medical students self-diagnose themselves with diseases and illnesses that they are studying about. It's also been known as psychology students' syndrome for obvious reasons.

  7. Life imitates satire? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Methinks yes.

  8. Stumping doctors too by mr100percent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sort of thing is stumping doctors.

    A patient walks in and immediately tells the doctor he thinks he has Berringer-Klopp syndrome. The doctor then excuses himself for a moment and has to dig up one of those rare diseases books. A few minutes later, he tells the man that he probably just has a case of warts.

    That's the problem with Medical school students as well; people will immediately think of the rarest diseases. It's probably just a cold or a early flu, but people suspect that they have a case of Tularemia. It's the equivalent of hearing hoofbeats and thinking that its Zebras.

  9. The hypochondria pill... by thecountryofmike · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sooner or later, the marketing guru's at Pfizer will figure out they can sell sugar pills to cure hypochondria.

    Wait, that's a GREAT idea! I need to become a marketing guru for Pfizer...

    oops, time for my soma...

  10. Yup, I'm one of those... by Vincman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting that it comes up now, because after reading about Asperger Syndrome in this Slashdot-article a few days ago, I actually went to an AS-support group and asked whether I had it. Embarrassing, I know. Luckily the people on the forum turned out to be quite friendly and as it turns out my symptoms are more related to a mild case of social phobia.
    If something is wrong with a person, the internet can serve as a useful tool during the initial information-finding phase. The unguided nature of the internet does carry the risk of misidentifying or imagining diseases or conditions. It should therefore never be used as a substitute for professional help!

  11. The Nature Of A Hypochondriac by bettiwettiwoo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I think most hypochondriacs try to avoid seeing doctors[.]
    I think you're wrong. I think most hypochondriacs see a lot of doctors all the time. I wouldn't -- perhaps -- go quite as far as saying that visits to the doctors is their raison d'etre (obviously, that would be spotting descriptions of new, exotic, life-threatening or otherwise interesting diseases and imagine having them), but I would say go as far as saying that such a visit would probably make a hypochondriac's day.

    It seems most of them (hypochondriacs, not doctors) are more looking for sympathy than an actual solution to whatever perceived problem they might have.
    I'm not sure I agree with that either. I think most hypochondriacs would prefer a certified medical treatment (a pill, some chemotherapy, whatever) that would convince them that they are cured from whatever illness they imagine themselves suffering from rather than sympathy. I mean, surely part of the problem -- from the hypochondriac's point of view -- is that not only are they sick, really, really sick with some -- probably -- life-threatening disease, but their doctor(s) is/are refusing to acknowledge that 'fact' and no treatment will therefore be received?! Sympathy be damned: what a hypochondriac wants is some surgery and a whole lotta pills!

    Finally, and parenthetically, I don't think the Internet has managed to add very much to the hypochondriacs' lament. Jerome K. Jerome published his Three Men In A Boat some 100 years ago: in it the narrator J. comes across a medical textbook and manages to persuade himself that he suffers from every ailment in the book (quite literarily) save housemaid's knee. Upon seeing his doctor he receives the following prescription:
    1 lb beefsteak, with
    1 pt beer
    every 6 hours.
    1 ten-mile walk every night.
    1 bed at 11 sharp every night.
    And don't stuff your head with things you don't understand.

    Which only shows that it was perfectly possible to be struck by hypochondria even without the use of electronics. Now, if only every hypochondriac were to receive such sensible advice.

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  12. On the other hand, it can be good. by MoggyMania · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For people that do have rare disorders left undiagnosed, however, the Internet is an incredible boon.

    I discovered after 21 years of operations with organ difficulties of all kinds that my birth defects had a name, that there was a great support network online, and wonderful new treatments. Nobody had ever told me what it was, because doctors focused on one malfunctioning organ at a time. I only learned because I was bored one night and typed the name of a procedure into a search engine. I learned about a new operation in the discussion groups about two years later, went through 6 layers of doctors to convince my HMO to let me have it -- and now for the first time in my life, I can go away from my house overnight, I don't have to worry about medical mishaps, it's amazing! All because *I* looked up info on what I had, instead of relying on authority figures that (all the way until I reached a surgeon) had never even *heard* of what I needed.

    Similarly, it was a couple of years ago that I was searching for information on my delayed development/maturity and for the first time in my life found out what it was I'd had all along. I was skeptical at first, but I did fit the exact profile and asked others that were diagnosed in the online support community, eventually finding that I was more like them than anybody I'd ever met in real life. I've since been formally diagnosed, as has my partner (who went through the same self-dx process) though we learned in the process that the amount of ignorance in the psychology field when it comes to our neuro-issue is absolutely horrifying. This is after we'd each spent quite a bit of time being grossly misdiagnosed and drugged senseless based on that -- it was due to *our* research that we were finally given a diagnosis that made sense and were able to obtain guidance that improved our lives instead of making things worse.

  13. No. by The+Tyro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the doctor was trying to do was treat your son's poison ivy by attacking the mechanism by which it is mediated.

    You DID know that poison ivy is a hypersensitivity reaction, didn't you? Your own immune system causes the rash and symptoms. The rash of Poison Ivy is caused by a delayed, type IV hypersensitivity reaction (cell-mediated) to the oil of one of several species in the Toxicodendron genus. There is no way to treat poison ivy, except to temporarily suppress that particular immune response, often with steroids or other drugs. Then again, you could just wait... as you discovered. Poison ivy goes away if you give it enough time... but I can't tell you the number of people I see who demand that I do something about their symptoms right now.

    If your son had a bad enough case that he was sent to a dermatologist, then your doctor may have been right on the money.

    You have every right to do what you did... but don't accuse your doctor of malpractice; you're indicting him on an issue you clearly don't understand. You are exactly the type of person they are referring to in this article.

    Then again, if we didn't have AC's talking smack, this wouldn't be slashdot.

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