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Europa's Acid Ice Fields

tr0llb4rt0 writes "The New Scientist reports on recent observations that suggest the ice on Jupiter's moon Europa may be highly acid with a pH of near zero, and have a surface layer of hydrogen peroxide. Two theories have been put forward. One says that the acid has been formed at the surface layer from oceanic salts reacting with the intense radiation from Jupiter, the other that sulphuric acid is coming directly from the ocean, with the water reacting with sulphur produced from undersea volcanos. Wilst reducing the chances of life on Europa, it is not ruling it out completely, as there are terrestrial extremophile bacteria which thrive in highly acid environments."

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  1. A nice place to visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I wouldn't want to live there. You try building a house in an acid field.

    1. Re:A nice place to visit by SFBwian · · Score: 5, Funny

      The first one might not stay up, but build another one. If it doesn't, build another. By the fourth iteration or so, you'll probably be able to claim large tracts of Europa for your own.

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    2. Re:A nice place to visit by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      But I wouldn't want to live there. You try building a house in an acid field.

      I'm afraid you can't even visit.

      Please follow the directions inscribed on the handy black monolith:

      "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS--EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE."

    3. Re:A nice place to visit by SlipJig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah! All that means is that you can't land. That doesn't stop my plans for a floating Bespin-style cloud city 5 km above the surface ;)

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    4. Re:A nice place to visit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I did it.

      It's a pretty colorful house, but unfortunately, I can't walk through it without tripping.

    5. Re:A nice place to visit by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that city would be a great place to live, with the lack of crime and all. What's that? Why's there no crime? There's a diving board outside of the courthouse. And no one wants to risk a guilty verdict.

  2. Wilst reducing the chances of life on Europa,... by xC0000005 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, are those black obelisks going to be pissed. Of course, they are several years behind schedule already, which probably didn't do much for their attitude to begin with.

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  3. With all that hydrogen peroxide by patricksevenlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can bet that if there is life on Europa, they'll most certainly be blondes :D

    1. Re:With all that hydrogen peroxide by torpor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, but what good is that if all they are is microbial extremophiles?

      I'd at least want a normal-sized extremophile blonde Europan ...

      heh heh ... 'extremophile' ... heh heh ... yeah ...

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  4. pH balance by joshua404 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We should send a probe loaded with Red Devil lye to help even things out.

  5. hydrogen peroxide by kemapa · · Score: 2, Funny

    hydrogen peroxide...? My ears will never be full of wax again!

    Sorry, couldn't resist.

  6. Mental Note... by Smitty825 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mental Note...don't make Europa Landing probe out of metal...

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  7. I knew it! by tomstdenis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jupiter is an enemy planet

    Tom

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  8. With apologies to Monty Python... by OgdEnigmaX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Listen, lad. I built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was acid...other kings said I was daft to build a castle on an acid field, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the acid. So, I built a second one. That sank into the acid. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the acid, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle on this planet!

    1. Re:With apologies to Monty Python... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

    2. Re:With apologies to Monty Python... by Eagle7 · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are some who call me ... Tim?

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    3. Re:With apologies to Monty Python... by Nerull · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stop with your incessent Monty Python quotings, you silly english kaniggets.

    4. Re:With apologies to Monty Python... by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny

      And that's what you're gonna get, lad...

      What? The curtains?

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    5. Re:With apologies to Monty Python... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's only a model.

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  9. Life on Europa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even if there is life on Europa, they'll all be eurotrash, anyway.

  10. If only they could find silicone... by Buschman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then you'd have the three pillars of West Coast civilization.

  11. Re:Wilst reducing the chances of life on Europa,.. by GPLDAN · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd still like to shoot Roy Schieder into space, if it's all the same to you.

  12. baffling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't understand why someone who is marginally literate would be visiting a text-based website.

  13. No Biggie by Sparky77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just have the probe take along bottle of Tums.

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  14. so by CubeHard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess Europa's is nothing more than my girlfiend in planet form...

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  15. Attempt no landings here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Perhaps Sir Arthur was correct.

  16. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE by vaxer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Looks like we got good advice:

    ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA
    ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
    USE THEM TOGETHER
    USE THEM IN PEACE

    But do you think sending a metric shitload of baking soda and red food dye counts as attempting a landing? Because I, for one, would LOVE to use Europa as a gigantic science-fair volcano.
  17. Acid...not just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such educational films as "Acid: Not just for Hippies Anymore" or "Hydrochloric Acid Dissolves all Evidence."

  18. Blond aliens. by xC0000005 · · Score: 1, Funny

    So there really is *no* chance of intelligent life on Europa.

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  19. Surviving in high concentrations of acid by Syberghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wilst reducing the chances of life on Europa, it is not ruling it out completely, as there are terrestrial extremophile bacteria which thrive in highly acid environments."

    Such as UC Berkeley.

  20. No wonder by Washizu · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Jupiter's moon Europa may be highly acid with a pH of near zero"

    Now we know why we shouldn't set up a base there.

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  21. Re:Can't have two theories by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, at least that's the theory.

    KFG

  22. Re:and Titan looks like Sweden! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Like Sweden, of course except the trees, the blue clean air, the occassional bears and elks, and all the Viktoria Silvstedt lookalikes.

  23. Only brunettes and redhead need apply by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 2, Funny
    and have a surface layer of hydrogen peroxide.

    And yet, oddly, there are no blondes.

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    1. Re:Only brunettes and redhead need apply by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Funny

      we dont know yet. only after we've successfully sent a probe will we know if the drapes match the rug.

  24. Instant Atmosphere! by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am no chemist, but with all the hydrogen peroxide on the surface, we just need to send an initial landing party of astronauts with lots of cuts and scabs.

    As soon as the H2O2 hits the infected areas, instant oxygen and water!

    A few hundred battle-scarred individuals and we'll have an inhabitable atmoshpere.

  25. Life forms that thrive on acid by Apostata · · Score: 3, Funny

    Okay, so either we're talking about Syd Barrett or H.R. Giger .

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  26. This could be home for Aliens. :-) by crovira · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean they have acid for blood, right?

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  27. Re:And a monopropellant to boot by fenix+down · · Score: 5, Funny

    The grandparent was making a Scientologist joke, before anyone else spends too much time thinking about this. I know no one saw Battlefield Earth, but at the end Ayn Rand uses the Stargate to lauch the nuclear bomb back up the Klingon homeworld, and the sexual energies cause a tachyon reaction in the dilithium crystals and all the the Klingons' air explodes.

    Then probably some jock kid who made fun of her at the begining claps and then everybody starts clapping and they all learn the true meaning of Christmas or something. I don't really know, I scratched the end of the DVD up pretty badly with a steak knife trying to voodoo-stab L. Ron in Hell.

  28. Re:Isn't it rather sad ... by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it rather sad ... that we've become more obsessed about life on other planets, than life on our own planet ?
    Sooner or later we'll just be what we've created in the movies: A group of living things going from planet to planet stripping it of its resources.


    Tell you what: when we do, you can take Ark B, m'kay?

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  29. Re:Alternative life forms by xtal · · Score: 3, Funny

    maybe it will maybe it won't, for us it's DNA, what will it be for them?

    Some might disagree with me, but I'd be putting my money on some variant of struct {}.

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  30. For god sakes no! by twoslice · · Score: 2, Funny
    We should send a probe loaded with Red Devil lye to help even things out.

    What we have here is the worlds largest battery! what we need to send is lead. Instant power source for the entire planet.

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  31. Alien life on Europa by TheLastUser · · Score: 2, Funny

    With concentrated acid for blood... Don't look into the egg! Don't look into the egg!!!

  32. The forgotten addendum by pokeyburro · · Score: 4, Funny

    "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS--EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE."

    "SERIOUSLY. THE WHOLE PLACE IS COVERED IN ACID. WE LOST FIVE CRAFT BEFORE WE FOUND OUT."

    "WE'RE JUST SAYING."

    (ps - pretend this text isn't here. It's just lowercase stuff meant to get around the lameness filter so's I can tell this (admittedly lame) joke. Damn you, /.! Damn you to helllllll!)

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  33. Finally! 2001 Explained. by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, all that acid on Europa certainly explains David Bowman's trip during Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite.

  34. Little Johnny by MrByte420 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Little Johnny was a boy,
    He isn't anymore,
    For what he thought was H20
    Was H2SO4.

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