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Unusual Linux Desktops?

sparrow_hawk asks: "I'm doing a presentation on Linux, sort of a basic education about what exactly it is and isn't. One of the points I'm trying to hammer home is the idea that Linux can look and act pretty much however you want it to. I'd like to know what's the most unusual Linux desktop you've seen, preferably with screenshots -- the one that looks like the helm of an alien spaceship, or the one that mimics a 50's radio?"

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  1. Here it is.. by E_elven · · Score: 3, Funny

    [elven@endymion /home/elven/]$

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    1. Re:Here it is.. by stu72 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I prefer this one:

      http://shelf.dyndns.org/~stu/screen-desktop.jpg

      http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html

  2. I have seen a WINDOWS THEME!! by Praedon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That was the most unusual desktop I have ever seen for a Linux Operating System...

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    1. Re:I have seen a WINDOWS THEME!! by cybermancer · · Score: 5, Informative
      Are you referring to XPde?

      They did a series about it on Userfriendly.org a bit ago.

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  3. 3 diff os(s)! by J3r3miah · · Score: 2, Informative

    linux with 4 virtual desktops each imitating XP, 98, mac 9 and linux!

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    1. Re:3 diff os(s)! by BhAaD · · Score: 2, Funny

      so basically you're using a linux desktop to "imitate" linux?

  4. themes.org by paradesign · · Score: 4, Informative
    Theres some neat-o themes there.

    Ive been most impressed by the 'other' WMs though, the little guys. Some of the Fluxbox or icewm 'minimalist' desktops are cool.

    Also dont forget that you can do most of this stuff to XP as well, with a few hacks that is.

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    1. Re:themes.org by MikeCapone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ive been most impressed by the 'other' WMs though, the little guys. Some of the Fluxbox or icewm 'minimalist' desktops are cool.

      My favourite, the one that I use at home, is XFce.

      It's about as fast and small as fluxbox, but looks better and has a few features that I can't live without anymore (ie. switching between virtual desktops with the mouse wheel, from anywhere in the background.)

    2. Re:themes.org by shweazel · · Score: 3, Informative

      switching between virtual desktops with the mouse wheel, from anywhere in the background

      fluxbox does this too, actually.

    3. Re:themes.org by Glytch · · Score: 2, Informative

      KDE does this as well. As of 3.2, anyway. I have no idea if it did before.

    4. Re:themes.org by MikeCapone · · Score: 2, Informative

      KDE does this as well. As of 3.2, anyway. I have no idea if it did before.

      It didn't on the versions I tried (pre-3.2).

      You could switch virtual desktop with the mouse wheel, but only if the mouse pointer was over the virtual desktops in the toolbar.

    5. Re:themes.org by mystran · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Indeed, the "other" WMs.. yeah, try grabbing a screenshot of wmx or evilwm and you should get something that looks unusual, even in the bash prompt when you ls -lh :)

      Both are perfectly usable, small, and almost without any runtime configuration. Still, those are my top-2 of window managers. If I did a top-3 list, then Ion would be the third I think.

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  5. I'll list the obvious for you by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Themes.org has tons of stuff that may be of use to you.

    As far as looks go.

    If you want funtionality differences some of the themes for KDE work (the B3 decoration in kde changes the way title bars look (only as wide as the title itself and can be dragged by holding shift. This allows for tabbing windows across the top). Then there is the button setting (I wish I knew what this was called, but I am at work and cannot check) where you can give it a marble theme. Or an SGI theme, or many others. It may be worth looking around for impressive Win and Mac clones, but the ones I have seen are obviously different even as a casual Mac user (I have spent 20 minutes on OSX and the aqua themes are lame) Most obvious difference is the buttons are on the right of the Window frame.

    For serious functional differences scrap KDE and Gnome and go with some strait up window managers. I had one called WM2 that only allowed you to open Xterms (that you could launch apps from) and move windows and kill windows (no nice close of them, that was the apps job). Enlightenment is pretty cool. And quite unique. The one where you drage the clip around is popular, but I don't even know what it is. After step is kinda neat to look at, but probably shows it's age. Black Box (and probably Flux Box) can look really cool, but are minimalistic, and deffernt then windows and may work good.

    Themes.org has Black/flux Box, KDE, and Gnome themes (if memmory serves) with screenshots. There are probably better theme sights with higher standards too (themes.org has some half done work).

    Hope this helps.

    PS.
    just using standard KDE/GNOME with unique panel layout can be a good example.

    I used to do an auto hide foot in the corner (for that really big one pixel start menu)with a clock always on top in the center bottum and a task bar somewhere I forget where, I switched to KDE and it wasn't flexible enough to do it for me. I was able to maximize my apps to fullscreen and the always on top stuff was stratigically placed to avoid key spots so it was not in the way. It adds about 5% to your usable screen.

    PPS. The taskbar was across the top of the screen from 1/3 of the way (letting me see window titles) to about an inch and a half from the right edge (letting me use the frame buttuns if a window was maximized).

    next to the clock I also had a few icon buttons and drawers for stuff I really liked.

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  6. Re:Wow! by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please post mockup of desktop that does not mimic something else, that is still usable... It's much easier to tell other people to be creative than to be creative yourself.

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  7. look at different window managers by BroadbandBradley · · Score: 4, Informative

    do a search for window managers on google, or try xwinman.org a site about window managers. I find that while gnome and KDE look much like what most people would expect, some other window managers put a new twist on how you interact with the computer.
    also look at 3dwm.org a 3d window manager that's used at the 3D-CUBE

    another good one is the Mozilla based desktop over at OEONE.com

  8. Not necessarily Linux only by Moderator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've seen some pretty unusual Windows desktops at Customize.org which use third party applications to replace everything from the Windows shell to system fonts. There's a handy little utility called Resource Hacker which lets you edit Windows executable files, allowing almost infinite customization. Some of the finer results of using Resource Hacker can be seen in the tutorials here.

    As for the UNIX desktop front, everything these days seems to want to copy the better points of the MacOS and Windows. A notable exception is XFCE which is a Gtk2/Gnomed clone of CDE. If you wanna see some odd attempts at user interfaces, I urge you to check out some of the others at http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ (yes the site still exists and is actually fairly recent). I honestly believe this site is a MUST READ for anyone that is going to use UNIX on the desktop).

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  9. Ion by EvilMal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use a window manager called Ion. The interface is divided up into frames instead of windows. The frames can be split and resized, and apps can be dragged from one frame to another.

    Well, I think it's kinda cool, anyway.

    1. Re:Ion by jhoger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah I use Ion 2 on a daily basis. Now that you can use the floating wm for difficult apps, I never have to leave Ion.

      I liked Ratpoison too.

      Still I'd try something that's really different... say a desktop that was actually a visually programmable shell with ways of connecting up objects representing command line tools like grep, and cat and loops and variables.. (don't care about 3d).

      But for just getting work done, Ion or Ratpoison have simplified things for an old keyboard user like myself.

  10. Enlightenment v0.13 by hitchhacker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone remember the old enlightenment versions?

    screenshot1
    screenshot2
    screenshot3

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    1. Re:Enlightenment v0.13 by tiny69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I miss the old themes.org. The themes could be as simple as AbsoluteE or some gaudy monstrosity. And they would both look good. There was also a lot of effort to create the best looking theme or screenshot. I just don't see that anymore. The only reason I don't use E now is because Slackware dropped it because of library naming issues. Instead, I'm using KDE which is just as bad as Gnome. There are well over a dozen different processes that need to be running.

      $ ps ax | grep kde
      . . . /bin/sh /opt/kde/bin/startkde
      kdeinit: Running...
      kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid
      kdeinit: klauncher
      kdeinit: kded
      kdeinit: knotify
      kdeinit: ksmserver
      kdeinit: kwin
      kdeinit: kdesktop
      kdeinit: kicker
      kdeinit: klipper
      kdeinit: konsole --ls
      kdeinit: kmix -caption KMix -icon kmix -miniicon kmix /opt/kde/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f
      kdeinit: konsole --ls
      kdeinit: konqueror --silent

      I miss how simple and smooth E ran, even on older, slower systems. The only thing that has impressed me with the desktop in the last couple of years is the addition of tabs to the webbrowsers and Konsole.

      Anyone remember when Netscape was the only GUI webbrowser. And it was also the buggiest thing on the system?

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    2. Re:Enlightenment v0.13 by Heretik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ah, good old e.themes.org. You're absolutely right; there was a community built around themes.org, just dedicated to making awesome themes.

      That little bar to the left with the top 5 downloaded themes was about the biggest motivating factor I've ever had for a project. Just having your theme up there for a few days felt really good.... somebody actually used your theme!

      Does this exist anymore? Why isn't there, say, a comparable GNOME themeing community? Alot of the E nerds went to GNOME after E17 failed to materialise in any sane amount of time, you'd think they'd be themeing..

      Then again.... I'm not.

  11. Here's one of mine... by jonadab · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's one of mine, which demonstrates an unusual accessibility requirement (the soft tertiary colors -- my eyes are unusally sensitive to light; I CANNOT handle Evil Blinding Backgrounds or high contrast). It also demonstrates the left side panel full of launchers, drawers, and applets that I've grown to love. The only things on the bottom panel are the task list and the clock. If it matters, this is a Mandrake 9.2 system with Gnome (but I replaced Metacity with Sawfish (because I want features, darnit) and replaced Nautilus with nothing (because I do all my file management from the command line)). The top drawer (with the drawer icon) holds the foot menu and launchers for assorted utilities and configuration things. The next drawer down, the one with the gnome-terminal icon, holds launchers for gnome-terminal (with various terminal classes and commands -- e.g., one for MySQL, one that does ssh into the cgi server, one that does ssh into the router, and so on). The drawer below that holds launchers for browsers. Then you've got three launchers right on the panel because I use them a lot: OO, Gimp, Emacs. Below the blank space is the screenshot button, the run button, a drawer of audio stuff, a drawer of games, the show desktop button (which really I ought to remove; I never use it), the CPU, memory, and swap meters, and the log out button at the bottom, out of the way. (Does anyone else think the Gnome1 logout icon looked nicer, or is that just me?)

    That Mozilla window has been open for some while; the first two tabs in particular have been open for a couple of weeks. This is typical.

    One of the Emacs windows has eshell, which is running a telnet connection to the im2 multiplexer for the Perlmonks.org chatterbox. Another is Gnus. The third has open the Changes file for Net::Server::POP3, which is what I really ought to be working on instead of posting to slashdot.

    Be sure to get a screenshot showing gdmflexiserver running with the Xnest option. That's a really cool feature. For bonus points, have a different desktop environment running inside the Xnest window than the one running outside it. Also try to get a shot from someone who uses ratpoison; there's no window manager more minimalist than that, especially when it comes to window decorations. Be certain to show off several interesting panel applets, especially if you can get one running in a tiny always-on-top panel. Get one showing something really cool being worked on in Gimp, too. And be sure to get an Enlightenment screenshot showing that weird dragbar thing about halfway up/down the screen. I don't personally like that, but it's innovative and different, and some people swear by it.

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  12. Re:Wow! by E_elven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd say to definitely include some of the mock-ups.. after the breathtaking display of creativity you can finish with "..And if you just want to keep everything nice and familiar to start with, well, you can do that too!"

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  13. I run FVWM 1.24 by Tony+Hammitt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, really. Every day, at work and at home. It's far faster than any "desktop" (it's just a window manager) and I like the insane amount of customizability. I've been using FVWM since 1993, (MIPS-based DEC workstations) even before I started using Linux.

    My friends think I'm nuts but I really like it. If I need a readable terminal with 800 columns, no problem, I can just scroll over to the next desktop area while resizing the window. I have a button for raise/lower the current window right where the old windoze icon on my keyboard used to be. I can use the mouse wheel to change the volume on xmms by catching M4 and M5 buttons (i.e. the scroll wheel events) on the root window, which is very handy for headphones and downloaded MP3s.

    It's about the most customizable thing ever written, and it's all in about 900K of pure Xlib, so I just compile it and run it anywhere I go.

    If you want, I can send you some screenshots, just reply. I figure it's about as weird a GUI as you'll see.

  14. careful by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I would be really careful about this. While the power of choice is attractive to geeks, it more often than not puts normal people off. I think that you stand to lose more converts than you gain by putting up extreme Linux desktops--normal people react with "this is a much too complicated thing for me", rather than "oh cool! I want to twiddle with my machine too!"

    For proof, look no farther than how many Windows users have changed the default background on their machine.

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    1. Re:careful by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While the power of choice is attractive to geeks, it more often than not puts normal people off.

      Where the heck did you get that factoid? From the Encyclopedia Slashdotica? It's clearly false. While some people abhor choice, the vast majority want it.

      Go into MacDonalds and find twenty different kinds of hamburgers, plus chicken and fish sandwiches. Odds are they'll have a specialty sandwich for the month. A far far cry from the John Belushi "cheeseburger cheeseburger pespi" world. Restaurants have dozens of selections. Even those that cater to the non-geek.

      Grocery store commercials advertise new larger selections. Automobile commercials advertise new makes, models and a huge range of colors and options. Ditto for just about any other kind of store I can think of. "LiquorMegaSuperMart! Now with three hundred of your favorite microbrews!"

      "But," I hear you say, "it's different when it comes to computers!" Nonsense. I walk around my work and I see that at least nine out of ten Windows users have their own wallpaper.

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    2. Re:careful by bolind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People want to personalize.

      I don't know how wide spread this is outside Europe, but take cellphones for example.

      They used to be just plain black og grey. You could switch between a couple of ringing tones, and the networks had the ability to change the logo on the screen, in order to tell you what network you were currently using.

      OK, in under a year, a whole industry blossomed. Personalized covers in all kinds of colors, services where you could download new background images, new ringing tones. Now, they have as many different cell phones as there are cars offered. You choose your cellphone like you choose your car; of course it has to meet your needs and not exceed your financial capabilities, but you use it to define yourself, just like the clothes you wear, and how you decorate your home.

      So don't give me the "users don't want to personalize". They might be scared of doing it, but if it was simple, then they would.

    3. Re:careful by sql*kitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So don't give me the "users don't want to personalize".

      Maybe they do, maybe they don't. They can do as they please with their own toys and gadgets. But ask anyone who's ever supported anything, whether answering the phone at the helpdesk or writing code that relies on certain other code being present, and they'll tell you allowing the end user the ability personalize anything more than strictly necessary is a recipe for disaster.

      A desktop PC for most people is a work tool, nothing more, nothing less. The ability to personalize it is just a distraction. And worse, if it's too personalized, the regular user won't be able to use a different one, and other users will not be able to use it.

    4. Re:careful by SeanAhern · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While some people abhor choice, the vast majority want it.

      Go into MacDonalds and find twenty different kinds of hamburgers, plus chicken and fish sandwiches. Odds are they'll have a specialty sandwich for the month. A far far cry from the John Belushi "cheeseburger cheeseburger pespi" world. Restaurants have dozens of selections. Even those that cater to the non-geek.


      Interesting that you would choose McDonald's as an example. I don't have the reference right now, but McDonald's actually found that people were getting confused by all their selections. Once they started making "prepackaged" meals (combo meal #1, #2, etc.), their sales went up 20%.

      People like choice, in theory. They like the idea that they could do anything they want. But when it comes right down to brass tacks, 99% of people just want to get work done and really don't want to tweak lots of settings. In the usability world, it's a mantra that a very large proportion of people never change the defaults of any application.

      Choice, indeed.

  15. not sure if this is unusual by josepha48 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mine is opera. That is it. I have configured the framebuffer device and start it with X & export DISPLAY=:0 ; opera.

    That's the desktop. Nothing else but a web surfing station. Kinda like a browser terminal. This allows me to have a device with only 64 Megs of RAM and run a web browser that I can check email and my favorit sites. It allows for useing plugins and viewing video in the browser window. Oh when opera starts hit F11 key and it will go to full screen mode. I see this as the future of desktops. Simple to use.

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    1. Re:not sure if this is unusual by iantri · · Score: 2, Informative
      In case anyone is wondering how this can work (i.e. wonuldn't pop-ups obliterate the entire screen?) this is why:

      Opera uses an MDI (multiple document interface). All of the browser windows (i.e. tabs in Moz or Konq.. at one time, when Opera was the only one with tabbed browsing it just referred to them as "windows".. the terminology changed slightly later when the other browsers came along) are contained within the main Opera window. Opera manages these all itself, so you can just run Opera without a window manager and it will be perfectly useable.

      This is actually kind of neat; it would make a better choice for a Linux-based kiosk than Mozilla.. since you can easily lock down Opera by editing it's INI files, you can run it without a desktop environment or window manager and not worry about kludging it to work properly with pop-ups.

    2. Re:not sure if this is unusual by josepha48 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      What's really cool is that opera and X fit into under 64 Megs of ram very nicely. Mozilla doesn't, Firefox may. Opera also gives better web browsing experience than links -g, as opera can support plugins and has better javascript support. So it actually gives a decent web browsing experience. Also when you go into full screen mode, if you have the 'free downloadable version of oprera' there are no adds because there is no place for them ;-).

      Now if I can only get my wireless card working under Linux, it will be a really nice mobile web surfing pad.

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  16. The one in my dashboard... by bergeron76 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Over at my website - dashpc.com you can find an extremely atypical linux installation. Granted, it's not necessarily a desktop; but it might help you make the case that Linux is extremely versatile and can be used in virtually any UI situation.

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    1. Re:The one in my dashboard... by enigmatichmachine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      nice, i especially like that last picture, when i clicked the link, it sent me to PARIS HILTON SEX VIDEO!!!!!!!!!! CLICK HERE!!!!!!!!
      either you've a funny sense of humor or you've been hacked(cracked?).

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  17. WindowMaker by MarcQuadra · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Alright, I'm aiming for you now.

    Windowmaker, while it mimics NestSTEP, is a GREAT WM. I've NEVER had so little trouble as when I've run WindowMaker.

    I think that WindowMaker is at the opposite end of the spectrum of Win32 systems, it's a dock-based system with no integrated file manager or desktop. It's like OS X without Finder, it's just there to MANGE WINDOWS.

    I personally use WindowMaker, Mozilla, rxvt, xmms, OpenOffice, and GAIM, that's all. All the tools I need besides that run in the rxvt terminal. I've got 7 virtual desktops:

    one for 'communication'
    two for browsing
    two for 'projects'
    one for a root shell
    one for household finances

    xmms is omnipresent, it's ij the background of all desktops. GAIM too when I feel social.

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  18. Re:Remember when? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, I do. I think it was about the same time as when Duke Nukem Forever was starting production.

  19. Devices not desktops by Spoing · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If this were for geeky desktop-only folks, I'd stick with your current plan. Otherwise, show them that Linux is in use ...

    ...in all Tivos

    ...in robotics

    ...various network appliances

    ...on mainframes

    ...in cell phones

    ...on PDAs

    ...in wristwatches (though a protype)

    ...and in and in a variety of other gadgets and practical devices

    In addition, point out that even creative types like Linux as it has been used to produce most of the major films over the last few years -- from the raw horsepower of render farms through to the artist's desktop.

    Just some ideas. (Check each one out before claiming it, though I think all the above is accurate.)

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