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Crack the Pepsi iTunes Promo Code

An anonymous reader writes "Someone posted a technique to find a winner in the iTunes Pepsi promo giveaway." Next step: a Pepsi/iTMS winning number generator!

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  1. On Apple's behalf... by NewWaveNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oops, there went that debt free memo! ;)

    1. Re:On Apple's behalf... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      AFAIK Pepsi buys the tunes from Apple for the standard $0.99... so it's Pepsi's problem, not Apples.

    2. Re:On Apple's behalf... by ryanw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, you still have to "open" the bottle to win. Pepsi/Apple is still ahead on this one.

    3. Re:On Apple's behalf... by letdownjournals · · Score: 5, Insightful

      AFAIK Pepsi buys the tunes from Apple for the standard $0.99... so it's Pepsi's problem, not Apples.

      I have no idea how the profits break down... But I seriously doubt that Pepsi is paying full price per song. I also have the feeling the record labels are getting paid all or near their usual fees. So I guess it boils down to who you want to screw over-- Pepsi and Apple by scamming the contest, or the RIAA by going back to Kazaa.

      But the real question is, don't most of us have enough music yet? How many times have you listened to 99% of those 20, 40, even 100gb+ songs on your hard drive?

    4. Re:On Apple's behalf... by DjMd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dude, thats why you Recycle them...
      Sound familar you maybe have read it here.

      This way you don't have to use 'suck'y Itunes, and you still get to stick it to the RIAA.

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      DJMD - The fourth man - Planetary
    5. Re:On Apple's behalf... by lavaface · · Score: 5, Funny
      Let's be realistic. You are not scamming the contest by looking under the cap (without opening the bottle.) I wonder what percentage of bottles made are winners. 1 in 5? Who knows. When you consider that many people don't look at the cap or won't bother to claim (Pepsi expects only 1/3 to make claims) the few who know how to "cheat" will make nary a dent in the outcome.

      Pepsi's ad budget is ~$250 million a year.

      Also, consider they war with Coca-Cola over "turf" in school districts across the country. Money for nothing for cash-strapped schools.

      Also remember we're talking about flavored sugar water. Who's scamming whom?

    6. Re:On Apple's behalf... by atrader42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "How many times have you listened to 99% of those 20, 40, even 100gb+ songs on your hard drive?"

      Well, since that 100 gb song is 71 days long, I don't get too many opportunities to listen to the whole thing. I do, however, enjoy sections of it.

  2. Oh, come on! by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    The big secret: "tip the bottle and see if you can see 'again' under the cap." Sheer genius.

    No, really--this would never have occurred to me.

    I mean, really--the tipping of the bottle I could probably get to, but then to look through the clear plastic--inspired, my friend, inspired. And differentiating between 'again' and a random string of numbers? This guy has to be into hardcore pattern recognition. NSA, are you seeing this?

    Yeah.

    There exist elegant solutions to truly vexing problems that, once discovered, are striking in their simplicity. There also exist people who try to pass off the painfully obvious as an elegant solution to a truly vexing problem.

    A free iTunes code to the person who can guess which category this falls into...

    --

    Obliteracy: Words with explosions

    1. Re:Oh, come on! by ForestGrump · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yea, yet another reason to get a job working for the school cafetria...
      so you can sit in the back tipping bottles while getting paid for it.

      -grump

      --
      Is it true that more people vote for the winner of American Idol, than vote for the president? -Ali G.
    2. Re:Oh, come on! by John+Harrison · · Score: 5, Funny
      Good thing they don't have Crystal Pepsi anymore or this would be even easier!

      As far as the idea of a generator, I hope that Apple was smart enough to use strong crypto in their generator, such that you would have to know the key to come up with a winning entry.

      I don't see how subverting this promotion is good for anyone in the long term. Do you want more promotions like this in the future? Do you want the store to last? I guess the temptation of a free 99 cent song is too much for some.

    3. Re:Oh, come on! by t1nman33 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pepsi and Apple Computer would like to remind you that attempting to circumvent our patented "CapTron" technology is a violation of the DMCA, and will be prosecuted as such.

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      --- Where's my car, and why are these grass stains on my pants?
    4. Re:Oh, come on! by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow,

      I was thinking it is a good thing they don't have Crystal Pepsi because it is so awfully disgusting.

      to each their own I guess.

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      Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
    5. Re:Oh, come on! by jyoull · · Score: 5, Informative

      Steve's children aren't allowed to drink soda or watch television, if this story is accurate. http://212.100.234.54/content/6/35259.html

    6. Re:Oh, come on! by psyki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obviously this marketing campaign is not targeted towards you. Believe it or not, not all advertising gimmicks are designed to be desirable by everybody in the whole world. Pepsi and Apple are clearly targeting people who already like Pepsi products and would find a free song a nice prize in addition to their drink of choice.

      Anyone who knows anything about iTMS would know that songs are only $.99 and would realize the futility of purchasing a more expensive product just for the less expensive free gift. There's also something to be said for generating hype over a product in general, like we are all doing right this second by reading this post.

      So you don't like Pepsi, then don't buy one. If you want songs from iTMS then go directly to the source. Get over yourself.

  3. a crack? hmm. by tedtimmons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a crack? I mean, if you count the cap'n crunch as a crack, sure. But I don't consider tilting a bottle of soda a crack. It seems more like social engineering.

    1. Re:a crack? hmm. by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      It seems more like social engineering.

      If your only friend is a bottle of Pepsi.

      KFG

    2. Re:a crack? hmm. by Cloud+9 · · Score: 5, Funny
      If your only friend is a bottle of Pepsi

      You say that like it's a bad thing.

      --
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  4. Secret Agent Crack by qw(name) · · Score: 5, Funny


    As long as the "crack" can be placed in a secret decoder ring I'll be happy.

    1. Re:Secret Agent Crack by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Funny

      free iTunes code:

      8UYM0R30V4L71N3

      (don't mod this offtopic if you don't get the joke. read the code slowly)

      --
      Etiquette is etiquette. He kills his mother but he can't wear grey trousers.
    2. Re:Secret Agent Crack by JM+Apocalypse · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know why, but I was just at the store and had this incredibly strange urge for some sort of chocolate drink.

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  5. And the winner is... by Channard · · Score: 5, Funny

    The American Dental Association, for the sudden increase in work coming their way. A Mr Orin Scrivello, D.D.S. will be presented with the award - a special enamel yellow I-Pod - at the next 'Fillings Across America' convention.

  6. Awesome! by furiousgeorge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cool - a guaranteed way to pick a winner!

    Now i'm off to buy many $1.20 bottles of sugar water so I get get a free $0.99 song!!!! I can't lose!

    oh wait............

    Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large numbers.

    1. Re:Awesome! by AdamBLang · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you're a regular Pepsi drinker, you're buying your normal beverage of choice at your normal price and getting a song to boot.

      If you're a regular iTunes Music Store user, you're spending 21 on a Pepsi.

      If you're an iTMS user and a Pepsi drinker, this whole thing is saving you 99 off your regular Pepsi/iTMS purchases.

      If you're a cola drinker but not a Pepsi drinker, buying a Coke is really costing you $1.20 + 99 (99 for lost opportunity cost).

      You really can't lose!

      Never underestimate the stupidity of people in small numbers.

  7. All I wanted was an iTune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Just one iTune, and Pepsi wouldn't give it to me!

  8. Re:Wow, mods are retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suspect not, but I'm sure it could produce music of the same quality as most of the stuff produced today.

  9. Re:Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, people who lack the capacity to detect sarcasm ad absurdium is a truly vexing problem. What part of that post made you think the guy was actually singing the praises of an individual he considers an intellectual giant?

  10. KeyGen Released!! by pantycrickets · · Score: 5, Funny

    ORiON PROUDLY PRESENTS
    iTunes Sweepstakes (c) Apple
    SUPPLIER ...: Team ORiON
    CRACKER ....: Team ORiON
    PACKAGER ...: Team ORiON
    RELEASED ...: 02.18.04
    TYPE .......: Keygen
    DISKS ......: XX/01
    /sarcasm

  11. A bit of info by read-only · · Score: 5, Informative
    The server linked to was slashdotted, so I found this via Google. Not all that impressive...

    No, I don't have algorithm to generate winning numbers. (I would have to assume that they are randomly generated anyways) But, after my 5th winning pepsi top in a row, I'm pretty confident in my ability to pick a winner by examining the bottle. Assuming that the intial bottles really are only 1 in 3 winners and are evenly distributed (which isn't a given) then 5 in a row is good, but not conclusive.

    Anyways, on the bottles I've seen, you can actually see under the cap you down the kneck of the bottle. If the lighting is sufficient, you'll be able to make out at least a couple of letters. If you see a number then you have a winner. You'll look like a fool staring down bottles to find a surefire winner, but being a cheapskate isn't glamorous work.

    I don't know any method to win with the 7-11 Big Gulp cups where the code is on the rim of the winning cup. I've gotten 2 of 3 winners using my patented "pick the first cup" algorithm. The only strategy I've heard of to increase your odds is the "double cup". Some people claim that the stores don't mind if you do it, but to me it's crossing over from legitimate "selection optimization" to "theft".

  12. Re:Oh come on! The WHOLE pop machine? by netringer · · Score: 5, Funny
    Oowwwww!! I have such a pain!

    I tired this in our break room but I had to tip the entire Pepsi machine over to see which bottle I should buy! I hope the boss didn't see me.

    Is that why they have that picture of the guy being crushed by the pop machine?
    Is it to keep you from checking for iTunes winner bottles?

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  13. Re:And Apple just got back in the black by daviddennis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most likely, no.

    The majority of Pepsi drinkers probably don't care about the promotion.

    Those who do will win. Those who don't care won't win and won't care that they didn't win.

    The tunes go to the people who want them, and more or less everyone is happy.

    I'd say this would hold true if anywhere under 10% of Pepsi drinkers wanted the iTunes songs. Once you get past that, you wind up having massive inventories of losing bottles nobody wants and things turn ugly fast.

    But if that's the case, it's Pepsi that loses, not Apple. Apple has no liability for Pepsi's inventory problems or lack of same.

    D

  14. I've come up with the perfect iTunes DRM crack by elflet · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but unfortunately this bottle cap is too small to hold it. - Fermat

  15. Quick & Dirty Mirror by Str8Dog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a mirror of the relevant content.

    http://www.str8dog.com/macmerc/

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    Str8Dog
    using System.Darkside; public
  16. Article Text by OECD · · Score: 5, Funny

    Warning: Too many connections in /home/macmerc/www/www.macmerc.com/mainfile.php on line 47
    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Too many connections in /home/macmerc/www/www.macmerc.com/mainfile.php on line 47
    Unable to select database

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    One man's -1 Flamebait is another man's +5 Funny.
  17. Coke has better implementation? by fembots · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am not sure if this only happens to Coke. Anyway, in one of a similar promotion (i.e. you win something if the cap says "Winner", otherwise "Again"), the message is in some sort of semi-transparent rubbery sheet, which is pushed into the cap, reversed.

    So normally you cannot see anything thru this rubbery sheet, and the message is on the other side (i.e. facing the cap).

    I wonder why Pepsi didn't use a better solution.

  18. Re:wtf? by discogravy · · Score: 5, Funny
    That's pretty amusing but did the editors actually read this story before posting it?

    you're new, right?

  19. Re:itunes under wine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it's too hard to print the entire winning number on the bottom of a cork.

  20. The Random Odds by MBraynard · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Pepsi is giving away 100 million songs, so I was thinking that there was a good possibility of people trying to hack it by guessing the codes to get the free song.

    I got a winning cap and did some math. Unless the codes are not random, this isn't going to happen.

    There are 8 digits in the code, and they appear to use alphas and digits. Presuming they aren't using zero so it's not confused with the letter "O," this means there are 1.0E+35 possibilities. With 100 million winners, that means one in every 1.0E+27 is a winner. Spelt out, that is 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

    However, given that it is not random, I guess the odds are much better.

  21. Re:Already over the 200 limit. by prockcore · · Score: 5, Funny

    I drink Pepsi like water, and friends give me their caps at school, so I'm already over the 200 cap limit. Really.

    Maybe Pepsi should be giving away a free diabetes exam instead.

  22. Exciting times we live in... by general_re · · Score: 5, Funny
    I mean, really--the tipping of the bottle I could probably get to, but then to look through the clear plastic--inspired, my friend, inspired.

    The Four-Color Map theorem.
    Kepler's Sphere-Packing problem.
    Fermat's Last Theorem.
    And now this.

    Brilliant.

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  23. Re:Warning: Joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think someone should start a business selling CDs full of random numbers.

    I've got your company's tagline:
    "1 in 2^(# of bits on a CD) chance of getting the software you wanted!"

  24. Re:Warning: Joke by elvum · · Score: 5, Funny

    At last we can finally put to rest the national stereotype of the Germans as humourless.

  25. Didn't work by rixstep · · Score: 5, Funny

    This didn't work for me.

    I took the Pepsi bottle cap, inserted it into my PC CD drive, and could read nothing.

    But I forgot to hold down Shift - that may be why.

    I just wish people would document these hacks properly before publishing them. I'm pretty computer-savvy, so I don't think it was a mistake on my part.

  26. Famous Steve Jobs quote to Pepsi guy by bonch · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Would you rather sell sugar water to kids for the rest of your life, or do you want to change the world?"

    Steve Jobs to that guy from Pepsi. It's on folklore.org somewhere. The Bouncing Pepsis story, I believe.

    1. Re:Famous Steve Jobs quote to Pepsi guy by l3prador · · Score: 5, Informative

      that guy from Pepsi. John Sculley, who subsequently joined Apple, kicked out Steve Jobs and let Bill Gates use Mac features in Windows 1.0. Change the world, he did. :(

    2. Re:Famous Steve Jobs quote to Pepsi guy by rixstep · · Score: 5, Informative

      Famous Steve Jobs quote on Pepsi guy:

      John Sculley ruined Apple, and he ruined it by bringing a set of values to the top of Apple which were corrupt and corrupted some of the top people who were there, drove out some of the ones who were not corruptible, and brought in more corrupt ones and paid themselves collectively tens of millions of dollars and cared more about their own glory and wealth than they did about what built Apple in the first place - which was making great computers for people to use.

    3. Re:Famous Steve Jobs quote to Pepsi guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sculley is the only CEO in Apple history who both managed to both keep Apple profitable and increase Mac sales year-to-year every year. None of the other three Mac-era CEOs -- Jobs, Spindler, or Amelio -- managed the trick.

      So, yeah, Sculley ruined Apple: he made it profitable and expanded the Mac user base. Such horrible crimes. Real Apple fans know the goal is to become an ever-shrinking demographic until the Mac is sitting on the same shelf as the Amiga, clung to in irrelevancy by rabid fans.

  27. I CAN'T BELIEVE... by bfg9000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that this hard-hitting piece of "journalism" made Slashdot's *front page*. I mean, I understand -- slow news day and all, and, well, Slashdot's front page was never a real "exclusive club" in the first place.... "Try to read the cap and see if you've won before you buy the Pepsi." That's it. THAT made the front page. He even put pictures for the, shall we say, "less intellectually fortunate" among the Mac faithful. What's next, "shake your Christmas present and maybe you can tell what's inside?" How about "Check your fruit for bruises BEFORE you buy it to avoid getting bruised fruit!"? GENIUS, I tell you, SHEER GENIUS. Yes, Bobby, "Genius" as in "Genius Bar". I bet Apple's already looking for this Einstein's number as we speak. But they'll have to beat NASA to him! He's like the guy off Phenomenon, I wonder if he can learn Spanish in a half hour. Frickin' Brilliant. I hope he uses his powers for Good, not Evil. Hey, I'm not kidding. He managed to make Slashdot's FRONT PAGE. The FreeBSD guys could cure cancer with their ass and they wouldn't make the front page.

    Why do the Editors even *bother* with apple.slashdot.org when something this fundamentally NON-earth-shakingly important (ie remember that credo "Stuff that Matters"?) makes the front page? SLASHDOT is now apple.slashdot.org. Get it? Slashdot = Apple. Everything NON-Apple seems secondary. Linux stories are tolerated. Books are ignored. YRO is buried. Games are irrelevant.

    You know, I used to think the guys who say "the Slashdot Editors are on Apple's payroll" and that "Apple is astroturfing here" were crazy. Now, I'm starting to believe it. Or has the definition of "stuff that matters" changed fundamentally since Apple is involved?

    Either the editors are slipping or they have an agenda. Take your pick. I like cheating as much as the next guy, but this doesn't deserve front page coverage. I guess that's why I'm not an editor. I'd be fair, I speak in full sentences, and my spelling is adequate. Hell, right there my chances are shot.

    --

    I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."

  28. Re: Re:And Apple just got back in the black by daviddennis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You might want to look at this another way: They may not mind the cheating at all.

    What they want to do is convert Coca-Cola addicts (like me) to Pepsi addicts. This is a back-handed bribe for me to switch from Coke to Pepsi for a month. The economics actually aren't bad, since as well as shifting my brand, they want me to buy more expensive single bottles at over $1 each, as opposed to my usual 6 and 12 packs at under $ 0.50 each.

    The actual sugar water component of a soda costs around $ 0.10. The wholesale value of a song on iTunes is probably around $ 0.50. If they have about a 100% markup at retail, the $1.20 pepsi bottle is giving them $0.60, so they are roughly breaking even on my sodas which are a guaranteed win.

    What they're counting on, of course, is that I switch to Pepsi and continue drinking it after the promotion. This is surely not impossible, as long as I decide I like the taste better. If they wind up doing that, they may not care that I'm only picking winning bottles, and they might have even made it deliberately trivial to cheat. They won't tell us that; it ruins the fun. But they may well have done it. Of course that's also why there's a 200 song limit for each email address. They'll let me have $100 wholesale, no matter how I get it.

    Interesting, no?

    D

  29. Sculley: FEH. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just out of high school, I worked for apple as a phone jockey/dope in the thick of the Sculley era. Every single day my job consisted of taking desperate (to the point of suicidal) calls from these poor, pathetic bureaucrats in the purchasing departments at school districts who had sent their entire computer hardware budget to Apple some six, eight, 12, 18 months ago, and they had still not received their orders.

    We were told explicitly and with great threat that we were never to reveal this to the customer, and were in fact to continue to feed them the "Real Soon Now" line of bullshit ("Next week, I promise... It's shipping tomorrow... It already shipped..."), when the blunt reality was that they would not be receiving their orders the next week, month, four months, six months, EVER - eventual refunds were assumed, amounting to a zero-interest loan from the school districts to Apple - because Apple had in fact shipped every one of their orders overseas, to be sold at a higher markup in foreign retail. They had sold their standing inventory at least twice, and probably several times more, and only actually delivered it to the highest bidder. It was pathetic.

    Mind you, "profitability" of Apple aside, this was the height of the "MacInTrash" era, when every government department in the United States, outside of the toniest school districts, was replacing their entire IT infrastructure of Apples with cheap first-generation beige boxes running some godawful proof-of-concept "Windows." I vividly recall watching newscasts showing dumpsters overflowing with discarded Apple machines and thinking to myself, "this company is fucked."

    Sculley made Apple "profitable" for the X many months it took him to ruin its reputation and forever doom it to the statistically irrelevant fringe market.