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Is the CAN-SPAM Act Working?

DynaSoar writes "Lance Ulanoff of PCMag.com offer his opinion on the success, or lack thereof, of the CAN-SPAM Act. It doesn't appear to be working, though spammers have noticed, in that they try to make their spam look "legit". What might make a real difference, according to US Senator Conrad Burns, co-author of the bill, is international standards and enforcement."

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  1. No... by Trillan · · Score: 1, Informative

    The only chnage I've noticed is that my filters are no longer as effective, now that some of the spams are trying to look legitimate.

  2. Don't wait for the government to fix it by indros13 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I know it gets mentioned in every spam discussion, but getting an email forwarding account from Spamgourmet is a great way to avoid spam. You can create "fake" email addresses that will forward a predetermined number of emails to your main account. After the number expires, the remaining emails sent to that address are canned. Oh, and did I mention it's free?

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    1. Re:Don't wait for the government to fix it by PatientZero · · Score: 3, Informative
      SpamGourmet has a feature to combat this. When you sign up, you choose a user ID as usual (e.g. spamisevil). When you want to give out the address, you prefix it with whatever word you want (e.g. nyt, slashdot, etc.) to recognize the source and a number between 1 and 20 which tells SG how many emails to forward before consuming messages. So to sign up for NYT you would provide "nyt.2.spamisevil@spamgourmet.com".

      Now this is susceptible to guessing. Once I know or guess a user ID, the rest is made up each time. To make this harder, you can set "code words" that must be in the made-up prefix. Further, you can set a "password" that must prefix the entire address (secret.nyt.2.spamisevil@...).

      Keep in mind this is geared toward providing temporary throw-away accounts. If someone looks in their logs/database and sees "secret.nyt..." they can sure start spamming you. Change the password or list of code words and they can no longer make up email addresses for you.

      Someone would have to be pretty damn desperate to start scanning logs for SG email addresses, especially since they'd stop working pretty soon after they started using them to spam.

      I just started using it last week after a similar post here. The thing I like most is that I don't have to go to SG's website to create a new account. You literally make up email addresses with the option to use the extra features to make it more difficult for someone else to do it to you.

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  3. Re:War on Poverty, War on Drugs by dogbowl · · Score: 3, Informative

    and I've recently noticed that all email from my domains is blocked by Hotmail. I guess thats one way to stop the spam -- just block everything.

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  4. Re:Huh? by Kelson · · Score: 1, Informative

    IIRC, the law does empower the FCC or FTC to set these standards. It requires spam to have a subject tag, and indicates that the F[TC]C should choose one within a certain number of months.

    So it didn't say "all spam must start with [ADV]," but "all spam must start with a tag to be chosen by the FCC within x months of this law going into effect."

  5. Re:Filtering out spam and black listing email serv by Frater+219 · · Score: 2, Informative
    What I would like to see is a spam signature sharing, Spam Detection Servers SDS would collect hash per spam email sent within a time period.

    What I would like to see is some kind of convenient exothermic chemical reaction, which would convert abundant materials -- such as, say, wood, or possibly carbonaceous minerals -- into glowing gases we could use to heat things up with. This would be of great use in preparing food and keeping warm in the winter.

    Little hint: Before you say "I wish a thing like this existed," you might want to do some research in the field. As a matter of fact, a few projects along the lines of what you describe already do exist. Google for "Distributed Checksum Clearinghouses" (DCC, created by Vernon Schryver) and "Vipul's Razor" (created by Vipul Ved Prakash).

  6. CAN-SPAM works some if you are careful by juggler314 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I was getting about 230 spam messages/day. A few weeks after the new year I decided to take the plunge and see if I could decrease it a bit.

    I basically tried to sort out which spams were legitimately adhering to the law (which wasn't too hard), and if anything was iffy I would fill out the unsubscribe link with a throwaway e-mail to see if I got spam from it.

    long story short 4 weeks later I'm getting about 170 spams/days. A decrease of 60 messages/day or about 25% less. Not a huge decrease, but noticeable.

    The big benefit though is that the spam that is left is more "spammy" than before - hence my bayesian filter has achieved a slighly higher success rate which is good.

  7. Straight from a horses' mouth by Degrees · · Score: 4, Informative
    Domain co.tulare.ca.us

    December 2003

    Total messages: 162,564
    Total messages blocked by SpamAssassin: 36,927

    January 2004

    Total messages: 180,375
    Total messages blocked by SpamAssassin: 48,661

    So what we have is 10% growth in total messages, but a 31% growth in spam.

    Making spam illegal isn't working. Not surprising to me.....

    FWIW, I attribute the 10% growth to MyDoom and its ilk - my user base did not grow 10%, nor do I think my users suddenly started sending more email - they just received more stuff that got deleted (but counted) by the virus scanner.

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  8. Re:Usable snailmail addresses? by dacarr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Counter to that: it's a lot easier to track, serve, and enforce against a snail address than it is to get that info out of an ISP, with PO Boxes being a middle ground somewhere.

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  9. Re:Filtering out spam and black listing email serv by GNUguy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spam Assassin weeds out more than 50%, I run it on my server and I would say I block 90% or better on spam, and in 2 years I have only gotten 2 false positives, and to solve that I added them to my white list. So i don't think 50% is a good number to brag about. (No I didnt read that article).

    -G

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  10. Re:Huh? by djmurdoch · · Score: 2, Informative

    IIRC, the law does empower the FCC or FTC to set these standards. It requires spam to have a subject tag, and indicates that the F[TC]C should choose one within a certain number of months.

    So it didn't say "all spam must start with [ADV]," but "all spam must start with a tag to be chosen by the FCC within x months of this law going into effect."


    You don't quite have it right. All porn spam needs a standard identifier (to be set by "the Commission", not sure which one), not all spam. See the text of the CAN-SPAM act, in particular section 5 (d) (3). This has to be done within 120 days of Jan 7, 2004.

  11. Re:Faster than ever by Quarters · · Score: 4, Informative

    Chances are that you are getting spam that has been directed at your AOL username for quite some time. An AOL username gets released back into the wild at some point after the user has cancelled their AOL subscription. It used to be six months. I don't know what the time frame is now. You probably just picked a screen name that had been used before and has had spam sent to it since it was first created.

  12. Re:Huge Spike by Hayzeus · · Score: 2, Informative
    Just a suggestion, but make sure that spamassassin is doing the black list checks properly. Mine wasn't, and I got abyssmal results. After an upgrade and a reinstall (and an upping of the score for the spamcop and spamhaus checks), I'm back to a better than 99% sucess rate (no false positives yet).

    Not all of the dns blacklists are created equal, but I have enough confidence in both the spamhaus and spamcop lists to automatically mark a message as spam if either of those tests fail.

  13. Re:Huh? by singularity · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wrong, although you fell for that the Bush administration wanted you to fall for, so it is easy to see how that happened.

    The actual law says:

    (b) LIMITATION- Subsection (a) may not be construed to authorize the Commission to establish a requirement pursuant to section 5(a)(5)(A) to include any specific words, characters, marks, or labels in a commercial electronic mail message, or to include the identification required by section 5(a)(5)(A) in any particular part of such a mail message (such as the subject line or body).

    Now, the FTC is required to report back in less than 18 months about the feasibility of requiring ADV: or other indicators, but does not authorize them to require it in the meantime.

    Want to try again?

    They are basically passing the buck off to whomever has to vote on it in 18 months. [You were right about one thing - it is the FTC, not my idiotic FCC]

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  14. It's all good talking about foreign enforcement by Operating+Thetan · · Score: 2, Informative

    But I think someone needs to buy the man a clue about the location of spammers

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  15. Just wait, you'll get spam. by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 4, Informative
    Can someone tell me how they manage to get so much?
    Sure, here's just a few possibilities.
    • Be listed as the domain contact for a domain where a working address is mandatory. Failure to have a working address is grounds to have your domain cancelled. (Fortunately many registrars offer filtered address these days, but that doesn't help for the addresses that were visible before and are already on lists.

    • Post to usenet. I stopped doing that years and years ago, but I got on spammers lists back then and those addresses still circulate.

    • Have your job require that your email address be on the web. Similarlly, be responsible for a business address (like "support") that has to be on the web.

    • Post to a publically archived mailing list that doesn't remove email addresses. Posting to said list may be part of your job and can't be avoided.

    • Have someone else post your mailing address to a publically archived mailing list

    • Have someone else send you a e-card from a sleazy site that resells addresses

    • Have a moderately common name and use a moderately popular email host, you might get dictionary attacked

    Ultimately, if you use the same address for long enough it will leak somewhere, possibly without your knowledge. Are you sure no one you know isn't posting a "Hey, my friend bob@example.com knows about this, as him" to a publically archived mailing list? Switching addresses isn't a very good option; it cuts off communication with other people. Throwaway addresses help (I use them myself), but to suggest that it's a reasonable option for Joe Random User is silly.

    Count yourself lucky that you haven't had a problem. I got a new email address with a new job about two years ago. That address has never been used for personal use, just work. I've always obfuscated it on my web page (I need to have it available as part of my job). But I'm already getting 10 or so spam a day. (Although that's an improvement over the 80 or so a day I get at my various personal accounts.)

  16. Re:More wasted bandwidth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I hardly ever get spam e-mails with attatched images - they usually just send HTML messages, and link the image in from a website (I guess spammers are worried about bandwidth bills too). So just disabling HTML will save your connection.