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Free & OpenSource Software Weekend
FOSDEM Team writes "This week-end, the fourth edition of the FOSDEM (Free and Opensource Software Developers' European Meeting) is taking place in Brussels, Belgium. Once more, famous speakers will be present for this 2 days event to talk in the different tracks presented (Linux Kernel, Accessibility, Desktop, Java, Scripting languages and Security); on Saturday evening, the FS Award ceremony will be conducted by Richard Stallman. This year, the introduction talk will be made by Tim O'Reilly and the end talk by Jon Maddog Hall. Don't miss the interviews made by the FOSDEM guys : Hans Reiser, Ian Formanek, Keith Packard, Tim O'Reilly, Robert Love and many others."
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I hope high gas prices are depriving your children, you fucking dumbass.
Consider yourself drenched! [fp]
But everyone would have been arrested under the DMCA.
Fuck you, Gubment!
Is the meeting free? Is it free as in free beer? Or more importantly, IS THERE FREE BEER?!
WWJD.... for a Klondike bar?
Don't miss the interviews made by the FOSDEM guys : Hans Reiser, Ian Formanek, Keith Packard, Tim O'Reilly, Robert Love and many others.
Darl McBride? Blake Stowell, Ralph Yarro?
They too are part of the Linux movement, in their own weird sort of way. I mean, think about it : aren't these people at least in part responsible for uniting the free software world behind Linux, and provide a much needed distraction from the traditional boring ole Microsoft hatred?
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Him: That'll be thirty-seven cents.
Me: I don't have any money.
True story.
has weekend been hyphenated?
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1, 2... plus you're shaved bare!
The Free Software movement has gotten so large and so mainstream that I would think that conferences like this that highlight the 'separateness' of Free Software would eventually wither away. As more businesses pick up Free Software, the movement would become more prominent at true software conferences that cover the entire industry.
Free Software is not a product, but its products are products. Apache, Linux, Perl, these are all products and have a place to stand among commercial products like IIS, Windows, and Visual Studio.Net. Free Software, OTOH, only describes a group of software that really has nothing in common with each other except that they share a common license.
I would rather see the Apache booth at COMDEX and SD than at FOSDEM. The earlier we can throw the yoke of 'Free Software' from our backs, the earlier Free Software will fulfill its mission.
I have been pwned because my
there are a lot of foreign people who can't be there to watch the presentations, so I would like to know if some speech/talk will be recorded (in video or just the audio maybe) and have it avaliable on the net for those of us who are not in Europe download it and enjoy this meeting too.
Can the Win2k SP1 developpers attend this year?
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it doesn't help at all that slashdot has been spun out after touching everyone's junk. he can hardly see straight after touching Chali's diseased junk. how is he possibly going to explain this to the city when he doesnt help the next person in distress? they'll make him drop trou in front of the whole city again. there it is. the mayor just called and asked why slashdot hasn't responded. he has to go
it was called OSDEM back then, and RMS was there telling audience people off because they said "Linux" and not "GNU/Linux" when asking questions.
During his session he was talking about emulators for some reason and he said "Emulators like WINE" I yelled "Wine Is Not An Emulator!"
serves him right!
The Frum-Perle prescription would ensnare America in endless conflict.
... seeks to overthrow our civilization and remake the nations of the West into Islamic societies, imposing on the whole world its religion and laws."
.... is depicted as one great cauldron of hate, murder, obscurantism, and deceit. If our Muslim adversaries are not to destroy Western civilization, we must gird for more battles.
By Patrick J. Buchanan
On the dust jacket of his book, Richard Perle appends a Washington Post depiction of himself as the "intellectual guru of the hard-line neoconservative movement in foreign policy."
The guru's reputation, however, does not survive a reading. Indeed, on putting down Perle's new book the thought recurs: the neoconservative moment may be over. For they are not only losing their hold on power, they are losing their grip on reality.
An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror opens on a note of hysteria. In the War on Terror, writes Perle, "There is no middle way for Americans: It is victory or holocaust." "What is new since 9/11 is the chilling realization that the terrorist threat we thought we had contained" now menaces "our survival as a nation."
But how is our survival as a nation menaced when not one American has died in a terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11? Are we really in imminent peril of a holocaust like that visited upon the Jews of Poland?
"[A] radical strain within Islam," says Perle, "
Well, yes. Militant Islam has preached that since the 7th century. But what are the odds the Boys of Tora Bora are going to "overthrow our civilization" and coerce us all to start praying to Mecca five times a day?
In his own review of An End to Evil, Joshua Micah Marshall picks up this same scent of near-hysteria over the Islamic threat:
The book conveys a general sense that America is at war with Islam itself anywhere and everywhere: the contemporary Muslim world
To suggest Frum and Perle are over the top is not to imply we not take seriously the threat of terror attacks on airliners, in malls, from dirty bombs, or, God forbid, a crude atomic device smuggled in by Ryder truck or container ship. Yet even this will never "overthrow our civilization."
In the worst of terror attacks, we lost 3,000 people. Horrific. But at Antietam Creek, we lost 7,000 in a day's battle in a nation that was one-ninth as populous. Three thousand men and boys perished every week for 200 weeks of that Civil War. We Americans did not curl up and die. We did not come all this way because we are made of sugar candy.
Germany and Japan suffered 3,000 dead every day in the last two years of World War II, with every city flattened and two blackened by atom bombs. Both came back in a decade. Is al-Qaeda capable of this sort of devastation when they are recruiting such scrub stock as Jose Padilla and the shoe bomber?
In the war we are in, our enemies are weak. That is why they resort to the weapon of the weak--terror. And, as in the Cold War, time is on America's side. Perseverance and patience are called for, not this panic.
In 25 years, militant Islam has seized three countries: Iran, Sudan, and Afghanistan. We toppled the Taliban almost without losing a man. Sudan is a failed state. In Iran, a generation has grown up that knows nothing of Savak or the Great Satan but enough about the mullahs to have rejected them in back-to-back landslides. The Iranian Revolution has reached Thermidor. Wherever Islamism takes power, it fails. Like Marxism, it does not work.
Yet, assume it makes a comeback. So what? Taken together, all 22 Arab nations do not have the GDP of Spain. Without oil, their exports are the size of Finland's. Not one Arab nation can stand up to Israel, let alone the United States. The Islamic threat is not strategic, but demographic. If death comes to the West it will be because we embraced a culture of death--birth control, abortion, sterilization, euthanasia. Western man is
Who else saw weakened and though 'oh great, who else changed their license?'
HAPLEES *BSD election to the aashole about.' One confirming the Lay down paper reaper Nor do the fatal mistakes,
... but I wish we could get some famouse people here in Minnesota, US of A.
Free Software is an incredibly awesome idea. It's too bad that its biggest proponents (ESR notwithstanding) speak the doublespeak of communism.
You can see where OG says that here.
Why is this relevant, you might ask? No, not because he disagrees with the "slashdot consensus" (as though there really was such a thing), but because he is a TROLL. Check out the troll blacklist. I seem to remember him discussing trolling tactics in some journal or another with his fellow trolls, specifically how stupid the moderators were when they would even mod up flamebait, if they thought they were helping slashdot to consider the "other side" of some debate...
Right now, he's in Karma Whoring phase, trying to skirt the line of the most controvertial statements possible that will still get moded up. He doesn't really believe any of this, he simply wants karma and knows that there are always moderators who want the "other side" of things to get heard, whatever that "other side" actually is.
The same goes for all the others who wax poetic about browsing at -1. Heaven help us if we miss the latest page widening troll or trample on their right to "free speech" (by which they mean an audience forced to endure their inanity...) by refusing to listen to their mindless prattle.
Luckily, I have a long memory for names and MOs like this, so I will do my best to inform you all of the latest whoring attempts lest you have to endure goatse ASCII FPs at +1. Frankly, I have almost as little patience for trolls as I do for spammers, which is why I'm willing to waste a little of my time writing all this so that I might have to waste less time on the flamebait later.
Sadly, I have to post AC while troll stalking just because the trolls are that vindictive. Thankfully, they can't do a damn thing about me when I make sure that they never know who I am...
Software freedom is not something that chains you or in any way enslaves you. It is, as the name says, something that gives you freedom--freedoms you don't get with the other software you named. Even by the metric of mere popularity, Apache has apparently done quite well without booths at COMDEX and the like (Apache is still the most popular web server in use). But Apache is one of the outliers--most free software is not as popular in its field as Apache is in its field. I think we are better served by conveying how non-free software (not "commercial" software) restricts your freedoms to share and modify. There is nothing to gain by conflating the two definitions of "free" (except, perhaps, to point out how other languages don't have the problem English does because other languages separate freedom and price by using two different words). We gain more when we talk about software freedom and insist upon it. Insisting on software freedom has gotten us very far in the past 20 years. You don't gain success in a movement by throwing away the principles that the movement stands for.
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Ok, so to do my part, I'll boot to my Slackware partition (instead of XP) and run that all weekend :)
:)
But seriously, weird "holiday" but enjoy it
This is the sig that says NI (again)
I'm gonna be there, and hope it's gonna be an awsome week end. Belgians are not used to see a huge event taking place in our country, but we hope you'll feel at home. And about beer, I'm right now having one of ours... Anyone from abroad should try a "Biere Speciale" and don't hesitate to ask wich one (there are hundreds of different ones, not bad for a ten million citizen country ;-) ). There's a place to check in case you'd like to discover this side of belgian culture close to the site. It's called "L'Atelier" ask any Bruxellois where it's at, they'll know ;-).
Have a nice FOSDEM.
The openMosix community is organizing its own meeting at FOSDEM 2004. http://www.fosdem.org/2004/index/dev_room_mosix
Here's what happens to Free Software:
Tux takes a beating
To those who might be concerned that Free Software is a North American thing, be assured that Europeans are taking a leading role.
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...he's doing a presentation on Ruby.
The slide images alone should be worth attending... he's hunted far and wide for images of pythons, pearls, rubies, and such-like.
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Didn't they get the ESR memo that Java isn't popular in open source projects?
Any thoughts?
That's hilarious... mod the parent up!
Cuntwipes Jordan y0u're told. It's Best. Individuals rotting corpse Prima donnas, and a GAY NIGGER Users all over the this Very moment, OpenBSD. How many your own towel in
When I first read this headline I thought it said "Free & OpenSource Software Weakened," as if one of the GPL court cases had gone sour or something...
This will be a great place to practice hacking Linux servers
Should the weight of an argument be judged on the person who speaks it?
If we were all ACs and the post above was written, should it not have been modded up?
And I too have followed ObviousGuy's posting history, and while his opinions are out of the norm and occasionally bordering on flamebait, I don't recall him ever posting a goatse link or ASCII art.
But this discussion is quite offtopic as the topic is FOSDEM and not ObviousGuy. Your arguments are flaccid because moderators give points based on the content of posts. If you want ObviousGuy to lose karma or otherwise remain invisible, get your own moderation points and mod bomb him.
Now will a moderator please waste his moderation by modding this whole subthread down? Thanks.
The MirBSD project is here with _all_ of their ;-)
developers and giving out CDs for a small donation;
the height is up to you.
We're also available for talks and short interviews
on German or English about the project. No FAQs
please tho, we've written them on the website
The FreeBSD project is selling CDs for 1 Euro (or
more; up to the customer) and giving demonstration
and insight into two books.
The OpenBSD people are using subliminal tricks
(ie, chicks and T-Shirts) to show their project
off to the public again. And they're already
drunk before noon... luckily, no Humppa today.
My Karma isn't excellent, damn it! (And
Brussels rules, hundreds of kinds of beer, good waffles & choclate, etc.
Stallman gave a talk this morning, very intelligent, very funny too. Johnathon Corbet is giving a talk about Linux internals right now but the room he is in is too small for his audience so its real stuffy - Im going back soon for hans Reisers talk.
There must be 500+ people here. Excuse my lack of apostrophes and lack of willingness to write much more, Im in a nearby net cafe where the only OS available is crippleware and the keyboard layout is foreign. The FSF "Award for the advancement of Free Software" ceremony is at 1730.
How about I save the few grand, download a screensaver and enjoy the images while watching TV.
Seriously, rating a presentation (even Rich on Ruby) based on POINTEDLY UNRELATED powerpoint/slide images is the stupidest damn thing I've ever heard of. Except for SCO. And Microsoft Bob. And selling pet food over the internet. And smells over the internet. And (wanders off, muttering...)
> How about I save the few grand
Yup, that's why the subject line says 'if you're there'.
> the stupidest damn thing I've ever heard of.
Add "declare all local variables at the top of the method" to that list and you'll be all set. Word up!
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