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Tech Training Schools Going Bust
superflippy writes "The Associated Press reports that many tech training schools which opened during the last few years are now shutting their doors. During the dot-com boom, there was the perception that a few months of computer training could lead to a fabulous job. Now, it seems all these schools have produced are unemployed people with student loans and dubious certifications."
They shood do what I did and go to an acredited scholl like the University of Pheonix. Online.
I am a professional HTML software developer with good working knowledge of Microsoft FrontPage 2000, Microsoft FrontPage 2002, Microsoft FrontPage 2003 and HomeSite. Extensive experience with back-end server management via Microsoft Web Publishing Wizard. I am looking roughly for $80-90K (plus sign-on bonus and relocation), but I can tell you the job field is not that great. I think I should learn PHP and wait for things to pick up. Can anyone recommend good PHP classes under-$5,000 range?
Now, it seems all these schools have produced are unemployed people with student loans and dubious certifications.
;)
So, kind of like Microsoft?
[rimshot!]
Thanks, I'm here all week!
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
40,000 new IT jobs are opening up every year!
Must be willing to relocate to Bangalore.
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63+15 != 75, just as an FYI.
"40,000 new IT jobs are opening up every year!* Train now for a rewarding career!"
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*worldwide
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
Might I interest you in a new fad diet I've invented by investing heavy research into fad diets of 40 years ago?
No?
Well, how about this brand spanking new religious philosophy channeled to me by a wise, old Atlantean that I found in the library?
Hmmmmmmmm, tough customer.
One word. Plastics.
I think Santayana had something to say about this. Wish I could remember what it was.
KFG
He sounds over-qualified to me.
"Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney
wait a minute, all these years working and I've never learned... which is better; blue or grey?
when there are all of those "prestigious non-accredited" universities ready to grant you a diploma for your life experiences (even if they aren't really from YOUR life) for little more than a cheque or money order that can clear payment... So in what field do you want to be qualified in today?
Sample ad - phone removed for the gullible.
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Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited universities based on your life experience.
No tests, no classes, no interviews. All diplomas available including bachelors, masters, and doctorates (PhD's).
No one is turned down.
Your diploma puts a University Job Placement Counselor at your disposal.
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I notice "people with many years experience in the field" is not on your list, as it shouldn't be.
~Berj
We're a start up anticipating developing a product and being bought out by Cisco, Microsoft, HP or someone else with deep pockets. We offer your choice of stock options by the roll: White Cloud or Charmin.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
the idea that Cisco and Microsoft are more or less the same company.
Its all planned out. In 2009 we take over Cisco so that we can embrace and expand the internet better. By 2017, we will have assim^H^H^H^H^Hembraced every company in America. In 2023 all the Armed forces
automated, Windows-enhanced will automatically hunt down anything with a Penguin* on it. Finally in 2029 we get tired of paying off policians cutting into profits, so we buy the US Government.
- Bill Gates
* We also initially planned to destroy stuff with a Demon on it, but Bush is going to declare BSD-hackers evil-doers in 2006.
Blue in the north, gray in the south.
Brush up on your history, son.
The good news is that they don't hide well. They proudly identify themselves as MCSE's.
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
"Sign up for Cisco and Microsoft training! Get the pay and respect you deserve!"
;-)
From what I've seen, most people with Microsoft Certifications (who are un^H^Hemployed) *are* getting the pay and respect they deserve!
Meow. Now!
The post talking about knowing frontpage and wanting an 80k a year salary, or the totally serious reply wanting to help.
University of California Berkeley. I can introduce you to her, but if she finds out I posted this she'll completely kill me. :)
I just defined AC
My local unemployment office offered to send me to tech school. I went through twelve-weeks of "Online Sex and Pornography Engineering" (OSPE) certification, consisting of six-weeks of web training and six-weeks of sex ed (BTW - if you do this and a dude asks you to study with him, DON'T! 'nuff said). It only cost the taxpayers $26,000 and I got to keep my student-edition lube/body fluid-proof laptop at the end - plus, *I* graduated Summa Cum Solo. Still looking for work but I do not feel stressed anymore - not at all.
You're telling me, everyday I see adds on tv (always from 11:00am to 12:00 pm) for either car insurance (and really cheesy ones at that), crappy two year tech schools, or for bail bonds.
I've got an MCSE! Notice I post AC.
Used to be 40,000 per week...
Oops....
The darkness... controls the music. The music... controls the soul.
I can introduce you to her, but if she finds out I posted this she'll completely kill me. :)
There's nothing worse than being partially killed.
Many, many moons ago I took an Intro to Engineering class in high school. We had a bunch of speakers from the professional world as well as from schools. Including Heald. The brochure the Heald guy passed out included a *complete* list of recent graduates and the jobs they had. Somebody spotted the "Sanitation Engineer" so we pored over the list and found, among others, two car park attendants. I don't think Heald is giving the full list to HS students anymore :-)
Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1992-1951
The see The Cause and its effects but think nothing of the effects of their solution once its implemented Causing problems again that are usually worse..
I hear this is how Windows patches are tested.
this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. -- Lincoln, Gettysburg Address
and again computer science doesnt have anything to do with "opening" a computer. Seems to me REAL computer science doesnt even really need a computer.
Being out of work, I am very tempted to start isolating these morons, and sending off some mail to their company explaining how they have a moron working for them (and I would be a better choice). Hmm.. I have some time on my hands right now...
see subject line.
you've forgot to add that my english is terrible as well
it is not enough that i'm willing to write
someone has to be also willing to read
Seconded. A couple years ago, I was standing in the local Borders back home, browsing the tech section, when a woman walked up to the networking section, and started looking at CCNA books. I heard her say, "I really wish they had these as audio books, I just don't have the time to read all this technical stuff..."
It really seems like the people who get these certifications, or at least as their primary means of education/self-improvement toward a job, are otherwise clueless, lazy, and really shouldn't be around a computer to begin with.
Sam: "That was needlessly cryptic."
Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
Right, so that just reinforces what others have been saying. Your $14,000 for MSCE cert is better spent elsewhere.
Fred
"A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
-RMS
He had passed the 4 (?) core exams for the win2k mcse. A jobs program had put him through a boot camp. When he got to me, I asked him to bring up the control panel.
Deer in headlights.
Ok. Hit the start button and go to control panel.
More bambi.
O.k....lower left corner. Left-click...
I am not making this up. It's possible the guy went into cranial vapor lock under pressure, but even in brainlock you should be able to find the control panel. Or at least the start button.
Nice guy, good attitude, might be some aptitude, but the thought that he was going to get hired as an admin somewhere after his internship was weird.
i had a similar problem.
Then I learned about appropriate capitalization.