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Search Beyond Google
An anonymous reader writes: "'Search Beyond Google', the cover story of the March issue of Technology Review, is one of the few current Google stories that discusses whether their technology can stay ahead of the competition in the months to come."
rather a document organizer. It gets some of its results from Google anyway and just reorganizes it. Search results have the flavor of
See books about "more stupid f---ing shit" at Amazon.
targeted organization as in targeted selling. All they want is your demographic datum.
IOW google will crush them.
What will stop google is not their technology,
but the ossification that takes over every
large company as it grows. Changes won't be
made because it is too big a change. Changes
won't be made because it's not cost justified.
Marketing concerns will override technology.
People we get fat and happy. And unlike microsoft
i can switch to a different search engine
in a second. Yahoo is looking pretty good...
I'm utterly fed up with eBay with the bloodymindedness of their "enhancement" and roll-out policy. Holding a near strangle-hold on the online-auction market, they are blind to the aggrevations they inflict upon users.
Radical changes to a familiar interface shouldn't take place without dire need, unfortunately some people think it's fine to dust users. Google is all I want in a search engine and it works very well. The only reason I'd seek another search engine is if they (Google) drive me away.
BTW, did you know there's a calculator? I found it when I did a search for 'stones to pounds'
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
for a p2p distributed transparent encrypted indexing system with voted super-nodes.
You can't handle the truth.
welcome our new search engine overlords. No, really, I'm serious.
Google is awesome, and is by far the best search engine out there. Google became the best by being the best. I use it because it works, and it works well.
In order to be dethroned, a search engine needs to work BETTER than Google. I welcome any search engine that can beat Google, as it has to be DAMN good to take that title. Microsoft search flat out sucks. If I look for articles on linux, I get articles about linux alternatives (mostly M$ content). If I google for linux, I get real linux stuff. This is just an example, but it's true across the board. I have yet to see a search engine superior to Google, and I welcome any tool that can prove itself better.
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
:wq
They haven't hit a wall. They're just giving up. There is always always room for improvement in searching ... sure you can have natural language queries and stuff like that. But, getting rid of the Search engine "spam", and all those fake self-refering sites. C'mon google, that can't be that hard to get rid of. I mean, assuming you have a PHD and stuff ... right?
The only worry would be if Google goes public and then shortly there after someone develops a new way to search that's better and Google looses a bunch of market share. Then the stock would go down quick. This is now a high stakes game.
Evolution or ID?
But look how that game has changed. Google's the one now bragging that they can search "6 billion items", while the others have worked at tweaking their sort routines to be more resistant to link spam... and there's the event.
Google's starting to be the one wishing this was a non-event.
That's what technology is, isn't it? The constant search for something better than what's available? And the approach of many companies (insert any NASDAQ 100 company here) is wait-and-see. See how the poineer does it, do the same, but throw some more bells and whistles in, or just market it better.
Google has a brilliant algorithm, thanks their 60 PhD's. But there's plenty of other PhD's out there, some of whom I'm sure are just finishing up their newest, succeeding algorithm. It's a constant game of king of the hill.
Agreed. Until last week, I observed Google being bombarded by spammers of the 3rd level domain name. I belive that last week they tweaked their algorithm similary to the November 2003 tweak by throwing out results that contained the exact keywords in the 3rd level domain name. I run a legitimate business: snowboards-for-sale.com, and these jack-ass-holes have been funneling Googlers into their Amazon affiliate site by setting up shell websites like: http://flux-bindings.foo.com/ If you compare the result set between Google and Yahoo for the same query, I'm finding that Yahoo has slightly better technology for weeding out the spam; at least right now.
Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
The funny thing is that Google does this on its own sometimes, and not because people are manipulating it. I recently noticed that I've been getting a lot of hits from Google searches for "S635MP". I recently posted a deal for a S635MP motherboard w/ CPU for $5. (the deal is dead now, sadly, although there's one for $10)
Google saw that link, grabbed it, and for a while mae me the #1 search result for "S635MP", even above the manufacturer. I've since been moved to #2 by another site similar to my own, and we're both still above the manufacturer.
Now, I didn't TRY to do this. All I did was post a simple link in my forums. Google is filling itself up with spam.
After just a quick bit of playing around with Teoma (mentioned in the article), it seems to be better than Google. I was surprised ...
I kinda like this one, but not enough to not slashdot them. A cool pun, a funky gui, what more could you want in a nextgen search engine.
Todays search engines work a lot like information sieves, or panning for gold. The idea seems to be to take a bunch of stuff and wash away the un-needed, leaving behind (we hope) what we were looking for. However the very nature of the web provides the opportunity for looking at the relationships between ideas, the synthasis of knowledge as opposed to just collections of information. While the 'tricks' from the microsoft research projects look promising; only a true 'learning machine' will be able to go beyond the information and delevop a 'meta-interpretation/representation' of the raw data in order to support a 'meta-understanding' that is traversible and navigable in that we can not only connect with what we don't know, but that we can explore the unknown in terms of its relationship with what we do know.
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There have been two updates in the last couple months, named Update Florida and Update Austin by the SEO community. As typical, various webmasters have been devoting a lot of thought and emotion to them. But as a normal user, all I can see is that Google is definitely trying, and not succeeding yet.
... it could be great idea to publish unanswered questions as weblog.
i haventfound.blogspot.com/
Even google cannot answer everything. Web is limited even if you don't believe it. You post your question. Answers will come through trackback, comments, email. Googling the web after you posted the question. Or not.
All you need is some tag to mark post as answer or question. Hot list like metafilter to aggregate.
Is it a good idea or does it belong to recycle bin?
Mailing lists used to be about that. Discussing specific problems. Finding answers. Nowadays they are quite dead. Except some. Newbies, spam, whatever is the reasons. Problem is that those who possess knowledge don't have enough stimulus to share it. I don't solve that problem. The answer might be micropayments or gifts via amazon.
But make a good deed today. Answer one or two questions. In a year it might make quite a lot. In some day you might need answer to something yourself.
http://answers.google.com/answers/main
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A lot of articles (including this one) are focused with how Google (and their would-be competitors) can improve search via algorithms like PageRank; and again and again the proposed/imaged solutions are based on server-side computation. IMHO, the real solution to improving search is client-side -- and I don't mean search toolbars -- but rather using the computional power of the client to provide a better experience than what is available inside your browser. Searching in a browser is cool, but why not build a powerful Google search client app?
As a simple example: if your a Mac user, Beholder is really a much more useful image search frontend than using images.google.com alone (yes, I've mentioned this before, but hey, a developer has to eat).
Google really helped with research papers couple years ago, but now I find there's too much spam. So much so, that now I'm into Grad studies, I am going to Lexis-Nexis to find out information about topics. Also I have found that the Internet is certianly not what it used to be either in terms of quality of content. There used to be a lot more academic sites appear when I searching for information on a topic. Now, especially being in an political science related field, International Affairs, doing a web search on some topics leads to dozens of ranting bloggers instead of more academic type work.
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