Is the job of a search engine to:
1) Get you to the site, and figure you will find your way around?
2) Give you many entry points to the same site, clouding out the number of unique sites on the first page?
Google has pretty much always aimed at #1, with rare occasions where it puts the same site on the same page. Yahoo has been notorious about showing the same site on the same page 3-4 times, sometimes with and without the www, pointing to the identical site.
'Cuil' takes #2 way beyond showing the same two sites 8+ times on page one, eg:
http://www.cuil.com/search?q=snowboard+helmets
Search engines that don't focus on just getting you to the site... well they suck!
When ranking concepts directly related to sellable goods, what should get the higher concern? The sites selling the goods, reviewing, the manufacturer of those goods, etc... I see a strange attractor effect on many people drag-n-dropping their site every minute to the top of the page.
I see the potential for serious embattlement over the top placement. I wonder how they will deal with this.
That's great but to quote Spinal Tap, "...but this one goes to eleven..." Making consumers aware of a.bank TLD is just about the same amount of education required as letting them know that their bank will never contact them via email; especially for passwords and private information.
The argument against ethanol because of corn is going to be off the table in relatively short time. Cellulosic ethanol is coming commerically viable now and it will turn your green-waste trash into fuel. The US Department of Energy gets this and has formerly denounced corn as the future of ethanol. So when you use corn as a reason against ethanol, consider the other sources of it.
Corn is not the future of U.S. ethanol: DOE http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN28 30990020070328
A cellulosic ethanol company who was recently awarded a $40M grant from the DOE in February: http://bluefireethanol.com/
BluefireEthanol has the technology to viably convert cellulosic green waste into ethanol. Lots of green waste ends up at the dump already, these guys will convert it in a cost effective way. Ethanol is not just used as a fuel additive, it can also be used to make plastics and other materials. BlueFire's technology approach is unique because the inputs do not need to be sorted in advance like some biological processes which use specific enzymes for specific inputs.
From their website:
BlueFire Ethanol, Inc. is established to deploy the commercially ready, patented, and proven Arkenol Technology Process for the profitable conversion of cellulosic ("Green Waste") waste materials to ethanol, a viable alternative to gasoline. BlueFire's use of the Arkenol Process Technology positions it as the only cellulose-to-ethanol company worldwide with demonstrated production of ethanol from urban trash (post-sorted MSW), rice and wheat straws, wood waste and other agricultural residues. If there was already a plant in New Orleans (and it survived the hurricane) they could have made tons of ethanol from all of the waste debris that resulted from Katrina. Talk about making lemonade out of lemons!
As a retailer of the some of the biggest brands in the snowboard industry, I can say that this already happens to us. We sign agreements to keep our prices at suggested retail through the peak of the season. If you sell "off-price" you jeopardize your account in the next season. Our accounts and credit lines are reviewed yearly. These indirect means of "persuasion" are actually good because it keeps a level playing field for all authorized dealers. Like with most consumer electronics, if you do not buy your product from an authorized dealer, your product warranty is void.
-=DG
Cellulosic ethanol is the future, because it uses municipal solid green waste as its inputs. In other words, organic trash. People who use corn as an argument against ethanol are not considering what is comming with regard to this new technology. Some day soon in the future, there will be conversion plants on sites where existing green waste is mulched or composted.
Java Applets can provide even better functionality
Agreed!
but unfortunately no one seems to be able to develop responsive Not always... there is Swing.
Out of necessity, I wrote a suite of applets that given XML provide common controls like trees, lists and popup menus. I know there are other projects out there that do this, but they did not exist at the time I started the projects; besides it's fun to maintain. They are databound and in some cases threaded to provide a consistent user experience. When I build a complex UI, I use them all of the time. Yes they are free and open source, but I'm the only person who maintains (or uses) them.
Some basic attributes that applets have that no other browser technology have are:
they interface with the parent OS's clipboard. You can actually copy Java Objects to the clipboard and they can be stored in multiple flavors (mime types).
the windows are highest-level in the OS, so popup windows can span across frames, and outside of browser windows.
Drag-n-drop can happen accross frames, because it's actually moving an array of different flavors of objects. Also with Java you can drop on the desktop or other apps. You can drag-n-drop accross frames in JS, but it's a hack. Note dnd does suck in most Linux implementations.
You can drag-n-drop files directly from your desktop onto areas of the applet, like the tree, and it will perform client-side uploads.
They can operate in a threaded manner when events are triggered. Though you can simulate this in Javascript, it can blow in terms of trapping errors...
They can scale very huge, as you can take advantage of java's garbage collector, and because the browser does not do well with 10,000s of event listeners like onchange.
I have an idea. Since XHTML is XML and can be parsed as such (as stated in another post referencing WIKI) why not have the 'important' search engines out there give kudos points to those that use higher DTDs? I am imagining that if a document is valid XHTML, it can be indexed (XPath?, etc) easier and therefore processed with fewer 1s and 0s and with less ambiguity then HTML.
FYI this company has done it on the small scale with pilot plants, and is poised to be the first on the market with commercially based cellulose to ethnol plants. This literally takes peoples trash and converts it to usable fuel. Kind of like Rumpelstiltskin in the energy world.
http://www.bluefireethanol.com/?sd
I don't know about you guys, but I want to get a flex-fuel vehicle ASAP, gas is killing me!
-=DG
Yeah, of all people my Mom told me about this on Sunday. I am an online retailer, and historically the Monday after Thanksgiving has not been the best, however yesterday was our largest day ever on record, beating the prior largest day by about 40% more! I belive because of the hype produced by the media, it subconsciously persuaded people who would have bought on Tuesday or Wednesday to buy on Monday.
I hate it when my Mom is right!!!
-=Dave
For all of you tech geeks who also own an iPod(TM). Burton snowboards is coming out with a solar backpack in December that includes a solar cell that is capable of charging an iPod(TM). This can be used on an airplane as well, and the solar cell fits perfectly in an airplane window. It's a perfect bag for backpacking or camping when you'll be away from power for a long time, but you still want to listen to your tunes.
Read more here:
http://snowboards-for-sale.com/burton_snowboard_pa cks/solar_amp_pack/?sd
Functional, fashionable, and tres geeky!!!
I couldn't agree with you more. I have built a moderately successful business with a whitehat approach to SEO, a "contained growth" strategy, and with a $0 advertising budget. By just providing good content, and relevant information for each product; and by making sure every product is in stock, we have built up tons of good business kharma with our customers and with Google.
-=DG
shameless_plug: http://snowboards-for-sale.com/?slashgoogle/
Yes, agreed with the idea that it's best for servers. I use it to power all my web servers, and without all the bells and whistles, I can really keep a firm grasp on the very few things I actually need running. No 5 CD install, just a very narrow footprint perfect for hosting. All my mentors used Slackware too, so how could it be wrong???
A company worth mentioning that does this in the US is:
http://www.arkenol.com/
They too have been at this for decades, but poltics keeps it from becoming mainstream.
Yah, I think they are called bad neighborhoods. People set up lots of bogus domains that use type-setting techniques and linking to themselves to influate their linking stats. Linking in this regard is not a very good metric for popularity.
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Agreed. Until last week, I observed Google being bombarded by spammers of the 3rd level domain name. I belive that last week they tweaked their algorithm similary to the November 2003 tweak by throwing out results that contained the exact keywords in the 3rd level domain name.
I run a legitimate business: snowboards-for-sale.com,
and these jack-ass-holes have been funneling Googlers into their Amazon affiliate site by setting up shell websites like:
http://flux-bindings.foo.com/
If you compare the result set between Google and Yahoo for the same query, I'm finding that Yahoo has slightly better technology for weeding out the spam; at least right now.
Slashdot Mirror
for my custom HTTP 500 error message!
Is the job of a search engine to: 1) Get you to the site, and figure you will find your way around? 2) Give you many entry points to the same site, clouding out the number of unique sites on the first page? Google has pretty much always aimed at #1, with rare occasions where it puts the same site on the same page. Yahoo has been notorious about showing the same site on the same page 3-4 times, sometimes with and without the www, pointing to the identical site. 'Cuil' takes #2 way beyond showing the same two sites 8+ times on page one, eg: http://www.cuil.com/search?q=snowboard+helmets Search engines that don't focus on just getting you to the site... well they suck!
When ranking concepts directly related to sellable goods, what should get the higher concern? The sites selling the goods, reviewing, the manufacturer of those goods, etc... I see a strange attractor effect on many people drag-n-dropping their site every minute to the top of the page. I see the potential for serious embattlement over the top placement. I wonder how they will deal with this.
That's great but to quote Spinal Tap, "...but this one goes to eleven..." Making consumers aware of a .bank TLD is just about the same amount of education required as letting them know that their bank will never contact them via email; especially for passwords and private information.
The argument against ethanol because of corn is going to be off the table in relatively short time. Cellulosic ethanol is coming commerically viable now and it will turn your green-waste trash into fuel. The US Department of Energy gets this and has formerly denounced corn as the future of ethanol. So when you use corn as a reason against ethanol, consider the other sources of it.8 30990020070328
Corn is not the future of U.S. ethanol: DOE
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN2
A cellulosic ethanol company who was recently awarded a $40M grant from the DOE in February:
http://bluefireethanol.com/
As a retailer of the some of the biggest brands in the snowboard industry, I can say that this already happens to us. We sign agreements to keep our prices at suggested retail through the peak of the season. If you sell "off-price" you jeopardize your account in the next season. Our accounts and credit lines are reviewed yearly. These indirect means of "persuasion" are actually good because it keeps a level playing field for all authorized dealers. Like with most consumer electronics, if you do not buy your product from an authorized dealer, your product warranty is void. -=DG
Yes. This company BluefireEthanol was one of those 6 companies awarded the DOE grant.
http://bluefireethanol.com/
They were awarded another $1,000,000 grant from the state of California Energy Commission today:
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070320/0228303.html
Cellulosic ethanol is the future, because it uses municipal solid green waste as its inputs. In other words, organic trash. People who use corn as an argument against ethanol are not considering what is comming with regard to this new technology. Some day soon in the future, there will be conversion plants on sites where existing green waste is mulched or composted.
Agreed! but unfortunately no one seems to be able to develop responsive Not always... there is Swing.
Out of necessity, I wrote a suite of applets that given XML provide common controls like trees, lists and popup menus. I know there are other projects out there that do this, but they did not exist at the time I started the projects; besides it's fun to maintain. They are databound and in some cases threaded to provide a consistent user experience. When I build a complex UI, I use them all of the time. Yes they are free and open source, but I'm the only person who maintains (or uses) them.
Some basic attributes that applets have that no other browser technology have are:
http://drknowledge.com/JX/?slashdot
Forgive my shameless self-propping and horn tooting, but I've used Java to enhance UIs since long before AJAX so I thought I'd chime in.
-=DG
I have an idea. Since XHTML is XML and can be parsed as such (as stated in another post referencing WIKI) why not have the 'important' search engines out there give kudos points to those that use higher DTDs? I am imagining that if a document is valid XHTML, it can be indexed (XPath?, etc) easier and therefore processed with fewer 1s and 0s and with less ambiguity then HTML.
FYI this company has done it on the small scale with pilot plants, and is poised to be the first on the market with commercially based cellulose to ethnol plants. This literally takes peoples trash and converts it to usable fuel. Kind of like Rumpelstiltskin in the energy world. http://www.bluefireethanol.com/?sd I don't know about you guys, but I want to get a flex-fuel vehicle ASAP, gas is killing me! -=DG
Yeah, of all people my Mom told me about this on Sunday. I am an online retailer, and historically the Monday after Thanksgiving has not been the best, however yesterday was our largest day ever on record, beating the prior largest day by about 40% more! I belive because of the hype produced by the media, it subconsciously persuaded people who would have bought on Tuesday or Wednesday to buy on Monday. I hate it when my Mom is right!!! -=Dave
For all of you tech geeks who also own an iPod(TM). Burton snowboards is coming out with a solar backpack in December that includes a solar cell that is capable of charging an iPod(TM). This can be used on an airplane as well, and the solar cell fits perfectly in an airplane window. It's a perfect bag for backpacking or camping when you'll be away from power for a long time, but you still want to listen to your tunes. Read more here: http://snowboards-for-sale.com/burton_snowboard_pa cks/solar_amp_pack/?sd
Functional, fashionable, and tres geeky!!!
I couldn't agree with you more. I have built a moderately successful business with a whitehat approach to SEO, a "contained growth" strategy, and with a $0 advertising budget. By just providing good content, and relevant information for each product; and by making sure every product is in stock, we have built up tons of good business kharma with our customers and with Google.
-=DG
shameless_plug:
http://snowboards-for-sale.com/?slashgoogle/
Yes, agreed with the idea that it's best for servers. I use it to power all my web servers, and without all the bells and whistles, I can really keep a firm grasp on the very few things I actually need running. No 5 CD install, just a very narrow footprint perfect for hosting. All my mentors used Slackware too, so how could it be wrong???
A company worth mentioning that does this in the US is: http://www.arkenol.com/ They too have been at this for decades, but poltics keeps it from becoming mainstream.
Yah, I think they are called bad neighborhoods. People set up lots of bogus domains that use type-setting techniques and linking to themselves to influate their linking stats. Linking in this regard is not a very good metric for popularity.
Agreed. Until last week, I observed Google being bombarded by spammers of the 3rd level domain name. I belive that last week they tweaked their algorithm similary to the November 2003 tweak by throwing out results that contained the exact keywords in the 3rd level domain name. I run a legitimate business: snowboards-for-sale.com, and these jack-ass-holes have been funneling Googlers into their Amazon affiliate site by setting up shell websites like: http://flux-bindings.foo.com/ If you compare the result set between Google and Yahoo for the same query, I'm finding that Yahoo has slightly better technology for weeding out the spam; at least right now.