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AMD Could Profit from Buffer-Overflow Protection

spin2cool writes "New Scientist has an article about how AMD and Intel are planning on releasing new consumer chips with built-in buffer-overflow protection. Apparently AMD's chips will make it to market first, though, which some analysts think could give AMD an advantage as the next round of chips are released. The question will be whether their PR department can spin this into a big enough story to sell to the Average Joe."

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  1. The could profit from overflows too... by ebuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Especially if the buffer is their banking account.

    1. Re:The could profit from overflows too... by doorbot.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      Especially if the buffer is their banking account.

      Your account might profit too, if your account is next in sequence after AMD's...

    2. Re:The could profit from overflows too... by makapuf · · Score: 3, Funny

      just hope they stored it on unsigned ints ...

    3. Re:The could profit from overflows too... by BillX · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Stop overwriting my money, you bastards!"

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    4. Re:The could profit from overflows too... by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Funny

      just hope they stored it on unsigned ints ...
      gives a new meaning to overdrafts ;)

  2. Awesome by RedWolves2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Put me down for one! This is exactly what we all need. Why didn't they think of this in the first place. Always on Microsofts shoulders to button the buffers up. This will make a huge difference in security.

  3. Re:AMD needs better marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "For some reason, people love that little Intel jingle"

    but people HATE the blue man group...

  4. Of course they can by mikeophile · · Score: 5, Funny
    The question will be whether their PR department can spin this into a big enough story to sell to the Average Joe.


    Sure, AMD just has to write a buffer-overflow exploit into a worm that carries the pop-up window message, "If you had and AMD processor, you're hard drive wouldn't be erasing right now."

  5. Look closer... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....

    MOV AX,DS:OSID[BX]
    CMP AX,2 ; 2=Windows 3.x
    JE PANIC
    CMP AX,3 ; 3=Windows 9x
    JE PANIC
    CMP AX,4 ; 4=Windows 2K/ME/XP
    JE PANIC
    CMP AX,10 ; 10=Minix
    JE OKAY
    CMP AX,11 ; 11=... :PANIC
    ISSUE 'CPU BUFFER OVERFLOW ACTIVATED'
    JMP PANIC

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  6. Rob Enderle Strikes Again! by Galuvian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Although this is great for AMD I'm sure, I stopped reading the article when Enderle was the first 'analyst' quoted.

    1. Re:Rob Enderle Strikes Again! by cpu_fusion · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's too bad the article's editors left out the second part of that Enderle quote, which was:

      "Plus, the AMD64 makes a revving noise at startup that will make everyone at your next meeting think you are really cool. Did I mention chicks dig buffer overflow protection, because they surely dig me."

  7. Re:AMD needs better marketing by Karamchand · · Score: 2, Funny

    We don't support that... is the solution ;-)

  8. Wow! by El · · Score: 4, Funny

    Separation of programs into separate code and data segment -- what a novel idea! I hope they got a patent on this technology!

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  9. Designed for Microsoft Windows by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now those stickers on the front of the computer really mean something...

  10. Re:Pathetic by Kenja · · Score: 3, Funny

    What are you talking about? Linux has never suffered a buffer overflow.

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  11. Re:There's no excuse for buffer overflows by Fapestniegd · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you designed and produced cars on a typical programmer's development schedule, you would probably have to pour oil into them while running to keep the fluid levels right.

    And they would just explode for no reason sometimes.

  12. Added protection by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Excellent! Now they just need to develop a chip that protects against id10t and PEBCAK problems.

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  13. Re:AMD needs better marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Nobody knows if Intel is better, but they don't want a computer that "lacks" Intel inside. They simply guess that if it's inside, it's better than not having it inside.

    I always thought "Intel Inside" was a warning label.

  14. Re:Securing C++ through hardware by TheOldFart · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unless you use a .NET Hammer (R). It must be used through this ingenious slotted track (58lbs for simple nails, 378lb for server nails) that has sensors that can determine if what is to be hit is a nail or someone's head. The only draw back is that it only works with nails made by Microsoft, it consumes 1G Watts, and only hits 10 nails/hour (unless you buy the unlimited nail version which can do 100 nails/hour depending on weather conditions). By the way, those patent free hammers out there are only used by the fringe, leftist trouble makers.

  15. Re:Code rewrites going to be needed? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's ok, I install cracks on all of my copy-protected software anyway. In the case of games it's to remove the CD check. In this case, you might have to use a crack just to stop the program from crashing :)

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  16. New AMD slogan? How about.... by FerretFrottage · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Intel Inside? Then so are the hackers"

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  17. Re:AMD needs better marketing by stanmann · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shouldn't this be MPU +.99038238 Funny?

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  18. Re:Code rewrites going to be needed? by edrugtrader · · Score: 2, Funny
    I would entertain listening to cases where self-mod'ing code has its place.
    isn't that what my second /. account is for?
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  19. Re:what a drag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What 'ring' does goatse.cx run in?

  20. Re:AMD needs better marketing by silex_reloaded · · Score: 1, Funny

    I always thought "Intel Inside" was a warning label. And I always think "Designed for Microsoft Windows" is a warning of incompatibility.

  21. Re:AMD needs better marketing by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right. Which is why it's continually packed every single performance for nearly 6 years straight (in boston).

    Right...

  22. Funny to by embedded_C · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the article...

    The alert was sparked by the discovery that a raft of Microsoft programs were vulnerable to a problem called "buffer overflow", which hackers can exploit to extract private information from a PC.

    ...

    The new AMD chips prevent this. They separate memory into instruction-only and data-only sections. If hackers attempt to execute code from the data section of memory, they will fail. Windows will then detect the attempt and close the application.

    So they are depending on Windows to detect the attempt and close the application? Bwahahaha! So now rather than offering Critical Updates to fix buffer overflow vulnerabilities, MS will now offer Critical Updates to fix buffer overflow exception handling vulnerabilities. Ha!

  23. Heads Up, Microsofties! by rixstep · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually this is fantastic news. Already, it doesn't matter that Microsofties are dividing by zero all over the place - it becomes an exception taken care of by the built-in structured exception handling and life goes on and the user is never the wiser.

    Now we can excerpt even more crappy code. All that's left is a realtime automaton connected to the CPU that spots Microsoft code on the way and automatically gives it a liposuction before feeding it in.

    Technology!

  24. You know what AMD Needs? by fluxrad · · Score: 2, Funny

    They need to hire the marketing firm that produced those hilarious 3dfx commercials...

    You know, the ones that started off with the soft voice, "We produced a chip that has the power to save lives, to heal across distances, to end hunger...But then we deciced: Hey, let's use it for games!"

    Granted you could be nervous about this since 3dfx went the way of the dodo, but since AMD doesn't make POS video cards that double the weight of your box...they should be safe ;-)

    /proud to be an AMD customer since the K6II

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