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Eminem Sues Apple for Sampling his Samples

EvanKai writes "To celebrate Grey Tuesday, Eminem sues Apple to show his support for hiphop and sampling. CBS MarketWatch is reporting that 'Rapper Eminem's music publisher is suing Apple Computer Inc., claiming the company used one of the hip-hop superstar's songs in a television advertisement without permission. Eight Mile Style filed the copyright infringement suit late last week against Apple, Viacom Inc., its MTV subsidiary and the TBWA/Chiat/Day advertising agency.' While the ad in question no longer appears, several similar ads can be found here. I can't believe Chiat Day failed to clear the use of these songs with Pink, Mariah Carey, and The Who... or whatever major label actually owns the rights."

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  1. Hey! Look! It's a cash cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's go slaughter it... who cares if it would've produced more for us in the longrun.

  2. Sweet Jesus by Djarum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eminem is sooooo worried about being taken seriously as a artist isn't he?

    First Weird Al and now Apple... I hope no one ever buys that loser's albums ever again and he can go back to being poor white trash again.

    1. Re:Sweet Jesus by ewhenn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      he can go back to being poor white trash again.

      He never enjoyed an upgraded status. I consider anyone who badmouths his mother, and calls them all type of vile terms trash, white or otherwise. He just happens to live in a golden garbage can.

    2. Re:Sweet Jesus by FattMattP · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Wait, so today Slashdot is AGAINST artists getting fair compensation for the use of their work? I'm confused
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  3. michael: RTFA by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you RTFA then you'll find that Apple didn't "sample" the song at all. Jeez. Can we get some standards here? The entire "story" here is that hip hop artists sample and then one is complaining about sampling, except that he isn't...

    John.

  4. Gotta love irony.. by CeleronXL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most popular "legal" music download service is now taking heat for illegal use of music.

  5. Not a silly lawsuit by maliabu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if what Eminem claimed is true, ie Apply used one of the hip- hop superstar's songs in a television advertisement without permission, then it's a legitimate action isn't it?

    now we're asking why a super-rich like Eminem bothers to stop free advertising. however we must think of a bigger picture where lesser-known artists are not getting a fair share and have no where to go.

  6. "Every million I make, another relative sues" by bad+enema · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a hypocrite.

  7. Re:How ironic! by Rascasse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was always under the impression that copyright happens at the time of content creation. Therefore, the song would have been "legally copyrighted" when the lyrics were conceived.

  8. New Litigious bastard by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The song was rapped by a 10-year old in a commercial. If it was hummed, would it count? This is the state of the music industry today, isn't it? An artist tries to get everybody singing their song and then sues anybody singing their song. Maybe the RIAA and SCO are not so different.

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    1. Re:New Litigious bastard by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I bet if he was suing Microsoft, you wouldn't have a problem with it.

      They used his work without his permission, a public performance of his work, used to promote a product/service.

      I can see the practicality of not wanting to endorse for Apple. The whole losing "street cred" thing. Now instead of a white trash hero who came from a broken home to dominate the hip hop scene, his image shifts to an uppity homosexual who buys Apple products.

      It breaks down really easy. Big corporation with monopolistic ambitions broke the law. Individual sues based on his rights.

      Just mentally swap out the parties. Instead of Apple, Microsoft (or IBM, or Intel, or whoever's the evil corporate demon of the hour), and instead of Eminem, your favorite unknown independant label artist.

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  9. Re:Commercial vs Creative Use by Atzanteol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree. Even more so this could be seen as an endorsement by Eminem of iTunes. Something he may not actually want to do.

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  10. Re:Would it be cheaper? by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To paraphrase the saying:

    Sometimes it's easier to pay for forgiveness than to ask permission.

    KFG

  11. Re:free.... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ive heard this arguement a lot, and i have to ask this: If you continued this, at what point does it stop becoming free advertising? Playing songs on radio, free advertising. Copying CDs, free advertising. Kazaa, free advertising. Concerts, free advertising. WHEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET PAID?! Everything advertises something else.

  12. Attention: This is totally legal. by jhealy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple did not use Eminem's song in their commercial.
    Apple did not sample Eminem's song in their commercial.

    Apple did show a 10-year-old girl COVERING the song, in Acapella.

    Not only could this easily be definied as a cover, which requires no payment of royalties, but I would see it as a parody, which is covered under fair use.

    I suggest you all review the Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Guide at http://fairuse.stanford.edu/web_resources/index.ht ml.

    There is no case here, mark my words... Apple will win this suit, as Eminem has no case.

  13. Re:Sampling by prockcore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It wasn't a concert, it was an orchestral version of The Last Time and the sample was barely audible.

    Barely audible? It was practically the only thing in the song.

  14. Re:Sampling by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, I agree with that assessment. If that's the grandparent's definition of "barely audible" then he needs a new hearing aid. The sample was the song, from the first note to the last. A few drums and a base on top of it didn't change a damn thing.

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  15. WRONG! by SonicSpike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The recording companies and the publishing companies are almost ALWAYS two seperate entities.

    The right to sell sheet music of a particular song is held by the publisher, NOT THE RECORD LABEL! The record label has to pay the publisher in order to record the song (this is called a mechanical royalty).

    In order to perform a song live the venue (or promoter) must have authorization from a performing rights orginization (SESAC, BMI, or ASCAP). This is usally a blanket license. The record label has NOTHING to do with this!

    Also anything that is copyrightable (such as a song or work of art) is copyrighted the instant it is put onto a transferrable medium. It doesn't have to be registered with the US Copyright Office for it to be copyrighted. Registering it with the USCO does help incase there is ever a dispute they can say "it was registered on this date such and such etc"

    My degree is in the recording industry. I know what I am talking about:
    http://www.MTSU.edu/~record/

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