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BudNet Tracks Your Suds

An anonymous reader writes "CNN is carrying a story about Budweiser's national internal sales tracking network called BudNET. It allows Anheuser-Busch to instantly track sales across the country, and 'If Anheuser-Busch loses shelf space in a store in Clarksville, Tennessee, they know it right away.' It brings up some interesting privacy issues, because according to the article 'The last time you bought a six-pack of Bud Light at the Piggly Wiggly, Anheuser servers most likely recorded what you paid, when that beer was brewed, whether you purchased it warm or chilled, and whether you could have gotten a better deal down the street.' Frankly, I don't want Budweiser knowing when I choose to buy their beer versus another brands."

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  1. Just pay with cash by javatips · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, I don't want Budweiser knowing when I choose to buy their beer versus another brands.

    Just pay with cash and they'll never know it was you!

    1. Re:Just pay with cash by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Informative
      Just pay with cash and they'll never know it was you!

      Unfortunately, at a growing number of stores, including every single grocery store in my area, thay want you to carry and use a card that identifies you to the system even if you do pay cash. Of course, you can not cary a card, but then you don't get any of the sale prices, and more and more items seem to be "on sale". Of course, the sale prices are still higher than the items were before the cards, and higher than the items are in areas where they don't have the cards. So yes, you can pay cash, but be prepaired to pay a few bucks extra if you want to retain your privacy.

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    2. Re:Just pay with cash by switcha · · Score: 5, Informative
      thay want you to carry and use a card that identifies you to the system even if you do pay cash. Of course, you can not cary a card,

      Or just download, print and apply the the Ultimate Shopper's number and get your sale prices whilst still donning your tin foil apparel.

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  2. i think this by 2MuchC0ffeeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this is a little more paranoia than we need.

    If you bought directly from budweiser, they would know what you paid for, if it was cold, etc. So pipe down.

    They can't really single out a person, or name a customer, there's no privacy issues here, at all. Just a company doing inventory control, to an extreme.

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    1. Re:i think this by PeelBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Exactly..
      "Frankly, I don't want Budweiser knowing when I choose to buy their beer versus another brands."
      And how would they know when you purchased other brands?
    2. Re:i think this by Eagle5596 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I personally agree, the end comment on the story:

      Frankly, I don't want Budweiser knowing when I choose to buy their beer versus another brands.

      Is just classic slashdot overreaction. I swear, if there were an article talking about medical records, some slashdotter, or even an editor more likely, would post the comment "Frankly, I don't want my doctor to know my current medical conditions."

      It's ridiculous people. Yes, privacy is important, but only in certain areas. Budwiser has just got an extremely good system for controlling where they send products, what they sell them for, and which companies are competing with them, and how well the competition is going.

      It's not like Bud is handing over your drinking habits to the US gov't, and the US gov't upon seeing a southerner switch to a light beer declaring "ARGH! He must be a terrorist! I bet he stopped watching NASCAR too!"

      Bud is just managing their stock, and trying to determine how the market truly feels about their product, and the prices they charge. It's all about managing their stock of beer, and where they will advertise.

      Please, leave your tin foil hats at home before you post.

  3. break out the tin foil hats. by kasper37 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They aren't tracking YOU, they are tracking the beer. Unless I'm missing something, they have no way of connecting any one person with any one beer.

  4. In Soviate USSR by after · · Score: 5, Funny

    Urine tastes like American beer.

  5. They're not tracking individual customer purchases by elflet · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to the article "They're drilling down to the level of the individual store," Thompson says. "They can pinpoint if customers are gay, Latino, 30-year-old, college-educated conservatives.

    They do that in two ways (again, according to the article): a "nightly sweep of their distributors' databases" and 2) on-site visits by sales reps who notice how the store is set up, whether it's selling room-temp or chilld beer (or both), and probably noting the class of customers.

    Despite Michael's concerns, there's nothing in there about tying to individual customer purchases or even getting explicit sales data on competitors' products.

  6. Re:Quite frankly... by leifm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For real. And who cares the they data mine anyway, it's not like they're tracking any one individual's purchases.

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  7. Assumption by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The last time you bought a six-pack of Bud Light at the Piggly Wiggly, Anheuser servers most likely recorded what you paid, when that beer was brewed, whether you purchased it warm or chilled, and whether you could have gotten a better deal down the street.
    You mean like what supermarkets have been doing for years (except with more resolution)?

    You know I've bought a lot of embarrassing things at the corner market and haven't even gotten discount coupons for them during check-out at a subsequent visit (a shame). And to the point, I've never gotten any kind of marketing material from Trojans in the mail as a result of having bought ribbed at Safeway, so if someone's correlating my personal information with my condom-purchasing history, they're not being very enterprising (if they were, they'd have sold the information to my wife long ago).

    What I'm saying is, there's a tacit assumption in the article that somehow your purchases are correlated with your name. That's more likely to be happening at your credit card company's clearinghouse than at the cashier's station.

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  8. Re:Since when... by Sique · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since 15th April 1895.

    Oh, you are asking, since when Anheuser-Busch sold beer? I really don't know.

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  9. FLASH: Slashdot editor an idiot! by BillFarber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Privacy issues because they track their own sales?

  10. Re:Quite frankly... by Megor1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey I don't think they should be able to track something some critical as water purchases.

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  11. Abuse of "Your Rights Online" by pridkett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a little confused as this isn't really your rights online and anyone that think that it is obviously didn't read the article. This is just and article talking about the information system that Bud uses to track sales of their products. It's a supply chain thing. They're not doing anything devious to go about this, just having people track prices and sales and actually doing something with data.

    Anyone can tell you that beer distribution is complicated, this just helps them better their distribution. Take off the tinfoil hats, nothing to see here.

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    1. Re:Abuse of "Your Rights Online" by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No kidding.. "Frankly I don't want Budweiser to know when I buy their beer!"

      I mean, frankly, Budweiser doesnt give a shit about the individuals who buy beer... They give a shit that Coors is outselling them by a wide margin in east Cincinnati, and they might want to know "How can we better appeal to Linux zealots?"

      But tracking individual beer drinking habits? For what purpose? That's just pissing away resources..

      Slashbots should take off the tinfoil hats and appreciate this for the cool and complex data-mining system that it is.

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  12. Demographic data mining isn't bad. by pcx · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • 'The last time you bought a six-pack of Bud Light at the Piggly Wiggly, Anheuser servers most likely recorded what you paid, when that beer was brewed, whether you purchased it warm or chilled, and whether you could have gotten a better deal down the street.' Frankly, I don't want Budweiser knowing when I choose to buy their beer versus another brands."


    Not you -- SOMEONE Yes Bud knows when someone purchased their product but they don't know who and unless they have a survey team out, they don't know why. Stuff like this happens all the time and for the most part it tends to make life better for all of us.

    Where we have to worry is when a company starts mining all this data and does track it back to an individual person. When a credit card company or polititical/religious/charity organization can pick up the phone and find out what I watched for TV last night and what books I last bought or checked out at the library, that's when we need to be concerned.

    And even if personal data-mining is possible it's no guarantee it will be used. For example, the EZ-TAG scanners on the toll roads you take can easilly compute your average speed between toll booths and issue you a speeding ticket if you were speeding but they don't. Why? Because the toll road comissioners would be voted out of office if they allowed that.

  13. So much foil your neck is going to snap by cyberlotnet · · Score: 5, Informative

    People.. Read the article fully. They track the BEER, not the person. Information like that is extremely important for the marketing of a product.

    This information allows them to know there market, plan shipments and various other usefull things.

    But instead you would prefer to assume they are tracking how many brain killing gulps of beer your drinking so they know when your drunk enough to use there super secret beer tracking brain scanner to download your life and the history of your poor sex life.

  14. Wow you're right! by Hrothgar+The+Great · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why the very thought of anyone drinking such a low class beverage has CAUSED MY MONOCLE TO POP RIGHT OUT! And really, who drinks beer in this day and age anyway? Everyone should drink only expensive wine and scotch.

    Why just the other day my chauffer took a wrong turn off of the freeway and pulled me past this run down little liquor store where this shabby looking man (who by the way was driving a Pontiac! A PONTIAC!!!) who hadn't shaved for a couple of days was walking out with a bottle of Johnny Walker Red. RED LABEL?! I exclaimed, exhaling a puff of cigar smoke and tipping my top hat back in a bemused manner. WHO ARE THESE CRETINS? I practically had my driver phone the police right then and there.

    1. Re:Wow you're right! by Hrothgar+The+Great · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wrong. I love beer as well, and I find nothing really wrong at all with the taste of cheap beer. I love a wide range of tastes of beer, and cheap commercial beer has a distinct taste, especially among different brands, and they are among many others I enjoy. I like microbrews as well, but I also like the taste of Pabst Blue Ribbon and Old Style because they do not taste like other beers I drink and I am often in the mood for them.

      I do think it's snotty to crap on them because they're big and commercial, and I think you're all a bunch of god damn yuppies and beer snobs. No offense.

    2. Re:Wow you're right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      At the International Brewer's symposium, A round table discussion was started with introductions. The AB CEO identified himself, then ordered a Bud. Lkewise the CEO of Miller, who ordered one of his own. This went on until the CEO of the Guinness brewery introduced himself and ordered a diet Coke. Stunned the other CEO's exclaimed as one, "why did you order a soft drink?", to which the peatbogger replied, "since no one else ordered beer, I didn't either".

    3. Re:Wow you're right! by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously, you have never taken a Pacific Challenge. Pacific Real Draft, as far as I can tell, use to be made by the Brick Brewery. But they don't show it on they're site, so this is about my only proof.

      This was a contest in my college bar. It was thought up by the bartenders to get rid of the 2 year old Pacific they had in their fridge. It was so crappy that they only bought two cases of it, and they still had about 40 by the time this started. Basically, we'd play pool, and the loser had to chug a bottle of this crap. I myself drank about a dozen of those things. I swear, it was like giving Old Jenny Rottencrotch a full tongue bath. They gave away the beer for free, since they'd make it back in the shots of SoCo I'd buy to get rid of the taste. The only upside was that my pool game improved dramatically...

  15. Re:Piggly-Wiggly? by arnie_apesacrappin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a southern thing. There were at one time Piggly-Wiggly knock-offs called Hoggly-Woggly. It's the same store as Kroger, Publix, Winn-Dixie or Meijer (but without clothes and other-non food goods). It just has a goofy name.

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  16. I went to Budweiser Beer School by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Funny

    I even have a certificate to prove that I'm a certified Beer Master. You wouldn't believe how much work goes into making such a thoroughly below average beer.

    LK

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  17. Re:I'd be more concerned . . . by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    . . . about admitting you drink Bud.

    "pLac e $500 IN A BrO W n PapEr b A g AnD l eAV e IT i t BeHinD tHE du mPsTe r O R w E tEl L yOur f r IeN D s y O U DRiNK bUD"

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  18. But...but... by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Funny
    break out the tin foil hats

    But to make the hat, I have to buy the cans! Classic chicken/egg problem. Arrgg!

  19. Re:Quite frankly... by infochuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For real. And who cares the they data mine anyway, it's not like they're tracking any one individual's purchases.

    Don't want 'em to know who you are? Pay in cash.

  20. A public DARE!! by CausticPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Last Saturday, I purchased a 6-pack of Guinness (in bottles) from the Kroger in Clarkston, GA. No, I do not live near there.

    I paid approximatly $7.50.

    My intent in purchasing the beer was, in addition to enjoying its smooth robust flavor, performing a demonstration to amazed friends on how to remove the magic "rocket widget" from an empty Guinness bottle (without breaking the bottle of course).

    There, I said it. Now the entire world knows what beer I purchased, when, where, and why.
    What is the WORST thing that can possibly happen to me by making this public?

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  21. Re:Quite frankly.. - Why so Paranoid?? by lcsjk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The local public utility has been tracking my water usage for years -- and they make me pay them to do it!! Worse than that, the long distance phone company not only tracks my phone calls, but they even track who I call and how long I am on the phone. My grocery store tries to track my grocery buying, but nobody lives at that address. However, Walmart does not have those stupid "shopper cards", so I shop there. Heck, I even think /. even keeps a record of when I respond and what I respond to.
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