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Japanese Government Raids Microsoft Offices

Nakito writes "According to an article at the financial news site Bloomberg, Microsoft's Tokyo office was raided by Japan's Fair Trade Commission, which is investigating whether the world's largest software maker violated the country's anti-monopoly law." Other readers note a AP/Yahoo story claiming: "A commission official, speaking on customary condition of anonymity, said Microsoft Japan is suspected of attaching improper restrictive conditions when signing software deals with Japanese personal computer manufacturers, such as requiring that Japanese companies allow infringement of their patents."

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  1. Oopsie! by juuri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the benefits of the new trend towards global companies is that the set of rules one must play by becomes more and more restricted as you enter into new markets.

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    1. Re:Oopsie! by irhtfp · · Score: 5, Interesting
      One of the benefits of the new trend towards global companies is that the set of rules one must play by becomes more and more restricted as you enter into new markets.

      You imply that just because one country has restrictive (or just different) laws and regulations, that a company must play by these same rules in all other markets. This is just simply not true.

      I'm sure MS has enough lawyers to sort out the regulations from one country to the next and is completely capable of playing by more than one set of rules!

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    2. Re:Oopsie! by kamapuaa · · Score: 5, Interesting
      As this action by Japan illustrates, apparently not. Microsoft just ran with their typical US arrogance and got caught breaking the rules.

      As a former resident of Japan, I think this whole issue is being framed the wrong way. Monopolies are part & parcel of Japanese business practices. It's more likely, they didn't pay off the right officials, plus they happen to be a foreign company.

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  2. Will They Learn? by 36526542DD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When will the governments of the world learn that Microsoft WILL do absolutely anything it can to achieve and maintain market dominance.

    Microsoft's objective hasn't changed since day 1: control.

    Microsoft would much rather control a broken protocol than use or contribute to an open one.

    Microsoft would rather squash or buy out competitors instead of compete on a level playing field.

    The only 2 things that can change this behavior are Open Source and government restrictions, in that order. (Increased public awareness and understanding is considered part of Open Source.)

    Long live Open Source!

  3. Why couldn't the FBI do this? by Epoch+of+Entropy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As covered in a previous story here , why couldn't the FBI do that on MS's home turf?

    I'm willing to bet the anti-trust trial would have made more headway.

  4. Re:Japanese Anti-Monopoly Laws by chazwurth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps the problem is with large overreaching foreign companies?

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  5. Re:What a bunch of sissies. by irokitt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Matsushita, JVC, and Sony are Japanese corporations, which the Japanese government is probably very interested in protecting. The large businesses/corporations of Japan have considerable influence in their government, moving beyond petty lobbying towards very strong and well-set puppet strings. It wouldn't surprise me if the raid was taken on in part to protect the interests of a Japanese firm or two.

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  6. Correction by irokitt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They don't have a problem with large overreaching Japanese companies, that's for sure. But Microsoft comes from America (or Satan-guys, don't post Slashdot after taking cough syrup).

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  7. Re:Friday's Headline by Hi_2k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Then how come they routinely do? Every encounter I've seen or heard of with the BSA has seemed more X-Filesish than like an inquiry by a buisness orginzation. They come in, hold up some important looking papers, and say "Let us audit and then sue you or else we'll sue you, then audit you, then sue you again". I've heard of them taking liscence documents to audit them, then having never have seen them when asked to give them back in the court case. The BSA is Bad News. They're out to make money, the same way Tony Soprano is. At my name not to be disclosed School, yes, school, they required that computer clases be cancled for days at a time while the liscence investigation was going on.

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  8. BATSU BOX by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's not forget that Microsoft made a huge blunder with the Xbox in Japan.

    Did they get the hardware wrong? .... NOPE
    Did they get the marketing wrong?.... NOPE
    Did they get the games wrong? ....... NOPE
    Did they get the price wrong? ....... NOPE

    So what did they get wrong?

    The freakin NAME of the machine.
    The letter X in Japan is synonymous with BAD, like an incorrect answer or a cross on a mistake....
    and hence the X-box earned it's name as the BATSU-BOX (or the No-Way-BOX) ....that and the Xbox green colour looks like radiation.
    And THAT was just asking for trouble coming from an American company.

    Funny, for a company with loads of cash... Microsoft couldn't even get the cultural sensitivity thing right.

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  9. Re:Not missed at all. by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Interesting

    However my point is that as a company you have to pay attention to more and more rules. If you don't then you end up in a situation like the present one Microsoft finds themselves in.

    Except that a company is not an individual. MS Japan is more than likely a separate corporate entity from (and with strong contractual ties to) MS Redmond.

    MS India, same thing. It's a different legal entity, with its own charter, etc. with the only stipulation being heavy contractual obligations to the parent company.

    If 50 people in Japan can come up with a clear legal strategy in Japan, why couldn't 50 people in Japan come up with a clear legal strategy in Japan with strong contractual ties to Redmond?

    This will have zero effect on MS Redmond, but does smear the name of MS even more.

    Microsoft is in 200x what IBM was in 197x. In 30 years, maybe MS will be the good guy again, too!

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  10. Re:Am I the only one who think... by blastedtokyo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    And yet we (in Japan) still get spam that we have to pay for on our cell phones multiple times a day.

    I think the statement is 'Japan's no slacker when it comes to keeping the nation's monopolies in power.' They'll bust little guys all the time, but only to protect the dinosaurs.

  11. Re:Invasion! by flacco · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A couple of years ago, the Bank of Japan's Washington, DC office scheduled their annual holiday party on December 7th and sent out invitations before realizing that they had invited economists from every nation to a bash on Pearl Harbor Day.

    a decade or two ago, when japanese productivity was the marvel of the industrialized world and US supremacy seemed in doubt, the documentation to some US-bound japanese VCR's included instructions on how to set the date, using December 7th as the example date.

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  12. I am wondering... by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if MS is under monopoly threat in just about every country due to their own actions, the local government needing money, or the local people/government wanting to start their own software industry and need to stop MS?

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  13. Re:Somebody explain parent, please? by jejones · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Japanese, there's a distinction between "long" and "short" vowel sounds. It's not the same as in English, where the sound changes; in Japanese, long really means long; it's the same sound, just held longer.

    They have short and long consonants, too--just like Italian, where "fato" (fate) isn't the same as "fatto" (done) and singing "a cappella" (like they do in chapel) isn't the same thing as singing "a capella" (like a little goat).

    Anyway--you can embarrass the heck out of yourself if you don't keep your long and short consonants and vowels straight when speaking Japanese. Jack Seward, in his delightful book Japanese in Action, gives an example of a fellow who went to work for a Japanese firm after WWII. This unfortunate man made just that mistake, and thereby told a group of Japanese visiting the firm that he was his boss's, um, sphincter rather than his boss's assistant.

    All the above, of course, is a distraction so that you won't notice that I don't remember just what vowel lengthening is involved with obasan...[pause for some Googling]...ah. There's "obasan" and "obaasan"; this message explains the difference (among other things).

  14. Justice For Not Delivering The Goods? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Does anyone else see the events of the last few years as signalling "The End" for Microsoft? Or at least backing them into a corner where they must change their business strategies?

    In the past few years, look at what Microsoft's user base has suffered as a result of using their products:

    1. Countless viruses - okay, not directly Microsoft's fault but nobody here would agree that MS have done all they could have done to make their products as secure as possible.

    2. Licensing changes - costing businesses more.

    Okay, so there's nothing new in either of the above except that both the above have had sometimes dramatic reductions on company profits through downtimes and extra IT costs. Add to that the shrinkage in the high-tech industry over the past few years and, all of a sudden, there are a heap of governments out there getting less income from taxation as a result.

    On top of that, those same governments are being squeezed to spend less and less on public services and along comes Open Source that suddenly seems to offer a way of cutting down on a lot of the government's IT expenditure.

    I know these discussions have been had on /. many times before but this issue in Japan just seems the latest in a long line of governments wanting to simply give, rightly or wrongly, Microsoft "a good kicking" - firstly the DOJ, then Europe, now Japan.

    I don't think it matters whether or not MS is a "monopoly" but it is apparent that they could have done a lot more in the past to stop what's happening to them now.

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  15. Re:Friday's Headline by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Except they normally show up accompanied by armed federal marshals.

    http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php /7 26821

    http://global.bsa.org/southafrica/press/newsrele as es/2001-05-25.617.phtml

    http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/news/column s/ 97-09/e3516034.htm

    http://archive.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/ 01 /29/010129opfoster.xml

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