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IBM Offers to Help Sun Open Up Java
dave writes "ESR has opened the issue of
pressuring Sun to open source Java, and today IBM throws in their own
commitment toward this end. IBM has published an open letter to
Sun, proposing that the two companies collaborate on an independent project
to open source Java, saying that IBM is ready to provide technical resources
and code for the open source Java implementation while Sun provides the open
source community with Sun materials, including Java specifications, tests and
code."
[Open Source Java or you risk relegating it, while .NET on commodity hardware gobbles up both the development and hardware markets to Sun's eventual doom. Work with us
and Java will be strong as many eyes and hands (ours included) clean it up and expand it where need and demand lay. Ignore this request and we'll pick it up at your bankruptcy auction.
Regards,
Rod
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
else keep thinking about LOTR, when they think of Sun and Java.
Sun being the Golem and Java being the "ring".
"My Precccciousssss...Myyyy Precious".
Sig it.
Did ESR just bitch, and things actually happened?
I'm impressed; unless he has an "in," of course...
Now we can get IBM to open up Java's code like they opened SCO's!
(heavy on the sarcasm here - don't take me too seriously)
You can accomplish anything you set your mind to. The impossible just takes a little longer.
Sorry, forgot, I'll just check your webpage for info.
God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
Sun were to offer to help IBM open up AIX?
They can't do that, SCO might sue!
Dear IBM
Can you opensource DB2, we don't have a database at Sun so this would really help
:-|
Now imagine someone hands him the source code and tells him he can fork it however it wants. What would he do?
the same thing he did with microsofts ill fated JVM, break it.
this is utterly ridiculous and interesting, but it's not in sun's blood. Sun: "why the hell should we give up control; we made java!" IBM: "look, if Java was open-source, more people would use it, and you are after all a services/hardware co." Sun: "Why don't you pay us for open-sourcing it?" IBM: "ehm, because..." Sun: "aha!" IBM: "Because we've just decided we're just going to buy your company for 50 billion" Sun: "REALLY??? YES!" IBM: "Um, we were just kidding. You guys suck. You have no idea what you are doing. Just Look at your Gnome situation for god sakes!" Sun: "Hey! We're planning on assassinating Miguel when he crosses the border." IBM: "It's not the 80s anymore, what the hell is wrong with you? This conversation is over!" Sun: Oh like you are so good, you know you are going to turn on everyone once you've assimilated all that can be comoditized and globalized. At least we're not freaking evil!"
This offer reminds me of Fidel Castro's hilarious offer to the US to send election observers to Florida in light of the 2000 presidential election SNAFU.
Dear IBM,
Could you please open source PowerPC and all your patterns, and to keep the OpenSource spirit, all your mainframe?
Bah, swing sucks anyway ;)
Slashdot is proof that Sturgeon's Law applies to mankind.
I guess we all have a cold...
MVS == OS/390 == z/OS. Closed
OS400. Closed.
all their C, C++, Fortran compilers and libraries. Closed.
CICS. Closed.
IMS. Closed.
SNA stack. Closed.
DB2. Closed.
Informix. Closed.
WebSphere (their big new $ queen). Closed.
Poor old OS2, even. Closed.
When I say closed, I mean even their customers and IBMers in the field can't get source code. How open is that?
See a trend? If it belongs to somebody else, or if it's marginal to their real product lines, they are happy to open source. IBM says: Hey Sun, open source the Java you invented. I say 'You first, IBM'