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Space Elevators Going Up

MikShapi writes "CBC is running a new piece on the Space Elevator. Nothing dramatically new, as we're all still waiting for one of the many Carbon Nanotube research centers to announce they reached the famous 100GPa red line from page 10 of the NIAC Phase 2 Report, thus obtaining 'unobtainium' [pun intended], the material necessary to build the Elevator. The report predicts this will happen during the course of the next two years or so. It's then that the fun really starts - A REAL all-out space race, open to everyone with will and a national budget, winner probably getting to own space [read last paragraph]. In the meanwhile, we can all spread the word, discuss, debate and brainstorm every nook and cranny of the program here on Slashdot, and give Edwards a shoulder by giving the program every bit of mass-exposure we can."

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  1. Top floor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Weightlesness, radiation, and hard vacuum.

    1. Re:Top floor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hello Mr Tyler.. .. going down?

    2. Re:Top floor.. by njcoder · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just wonder if they'll be putting in one of those security cams so that security gaurds can keep themselves entertained watching couples fool around on the over night shift.

    3. Re:Top floor.. by mccoma · · Score: 5, Funny

      heck, I hope someone straps a decent antenna to thing so I get good cell phone reception, like the commercial.

    4. Re:Top floor.. by njcoder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come to think of it. What's the deal with cables? Cables are absolutely the wrong way to go. I see cables having their purpose though but not how they intend.

      You'd need a very fast way to defy gravity and climb that cable. I say screw the cable. We need bungee cords. it's going to increase the speed at which we can get objects into outer space. Not to mention the revenues stream from all those GenX Addrenalin junkie millionaires out there that would want a ride.

    5. Re:Top floor.. by Exatron · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier to build the thing out of upsidaisium.

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    6. Re:Top floor.. by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damn it, we just got this thing built and some punk ass kid comes along and pushes all 22,000 buttons!

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    7. Re:Top floor.. by notestein · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good God man, this will never work!

      After 63,000 miles of listening to elevator music, everyone will be insane!

    8. Re:Top floor.. by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean these?

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  2. Emergency open / close buttons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will they have emergency override controls on the cargo deck? Watch 'Aliens' if you don't understand why this is necessary.

    1. Re:Emergency open / close buttons by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well damn, talk about serendipity, guess what just came on Encore? And it seems they've lost contact with the colony.

      I wonder if anything bad happened to them?

      KFG

    2. Re:Emergency open / close buttons by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Funny


      Nah, no way. It's just a transmitter problem. But let's send a full squad of space marines out to make sure, just in case.

      Oh, and Ripley. Let's not forget Ripley. After all, "she saw an alien once"

      SB

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    3. Re:Emergency open / close buttons by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny

      Open the pod bay doors please, Hal.

  3. Fwoosh! by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If the whole thing fell somehow like you cut it at the counterweight, cut it way up at the counterweight, it would wrap around the Earth a couple of times," Laubscher says.

    Well, that's fine. Calculate the length of that sucker just right and you've got a quick, exhilarating way to travel from one point on Earth to another.

    1. Re:Fwoosh! by Gumshoe · · Score: 2, Funny
      "If the whole thing fell somehow like you cut it at the counterweight, cut it way up at the counterweight, it would wrap around the Earth a couple of times," Laubscher says.
      Well, that's fine. Calculate the length of that sucker just right and you've got a quick, exhilarating way to travel from one point on Earth to another.


      Good point, but in this instance I doubt that any of us are "this tall".
  4. Huh??? by builderbob_nz · · Score: 5, Funny

    thus obtaining 'unobtainium'

    OK for someone who can hardly remember a thing about High Scool Chemistry, Unobtainium, what's that? A new term for good karma?

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    1. Re:Huh??? by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unobtainium; A general term for any material that is, for all practical purposes, impossible to obtain!

      And once it's obtainable, it will retain the name "unobtanium", because administratium will continue to be a necessary component of any NASA project. If you aren't aware, administratium is the only element whose atomic weight increases after fission.

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  5. Oh, oh yeah? by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the post-9/11 world, the first space elevator, built by the United States, would be a tempting target for terrorism.

    Not if our brand-new Department of Homespace Security has anything to say about it!

    Imagine, if you will, a solid 3D column of security, with an outer edge in the shape of the U.S., starting at the U.S. and extending infinitely into space. I think if we tried, we could even make it glow the whole way. Put a scare into some of those E.T.'s.

    1. Re:Oh, oh yeah? by myowntrueself · · Score: 4, Funny

      That would be fantastic; a wall to keep the yanks out (of the rest of the world)! ;-)

      yeah yeah troll, flamebait, yeah whatever

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    2. Re:Oh, oh yeah? by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think a better (and more appropriate) name would be the Department of Homestar Security.

      Do you have what it takes to join the Department of Homestar Security? Will you bring a sack lunch? Do you have the five bucks?!

      =Smidge=

  6. Uh.. by hookedup · · Score: 2, Funny

    "At year fifteen the first entity has six cables up including two 106 kg cables, has a manned station at geosynchronous, has recouped much of the construction cost through selling two cables and through hundreds of launches on its eight cables,
    and is beginning construction of a Mars cable"
    There is plans for a mars cable now? Isnt that um, impossible given our orbits in relation to each other?

    1. Re:Uh.. by tuxedobob · · Score: 2, Funny

      I understand Britain tried that once. It's called Australia.

  7. This is good and all....but by ImTwoSlick · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's nice that we're on our way to creating the materials needed for a space elevator, but where are we going to find a big enough rock to attach to the other end?

  8. Star Trek... by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    Second Floor Scottie!!

  9. Well if its built in the US by MajorDick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look for the AFL/CIO to get in on the act, Can you imagine how much money you could hide/steal/launder on a construction project of this size !

  10. Nanotubes made out of carbon by cmason · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just when you think all the great ideas have been thought of, scientists dream up a concept so radical, and so innovative, that you wonder if they've been smoking reefers the size of Yule logs.

    Such is the case with a group of scientists from the National Research Laboratory in Los Alamos, N.M. (''Los Alamos'' is Spanish for ''More than One Alamo''). According to an Associated Press story that I am not making up, these scientists are proposing to build an elevator that would be 62,000 miles high. That's right: 62,000 MILES, which is 32 million stories. At the top would be a revolving restaurant serving what the scientists promise will be ''really mediocre food.''

    - Dave Barry

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  11. test planet by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Funny
    would a mars elevator require a longer or shorter ribbon?

    build one there first maybe?

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  12. Love in an elevator... by blcamp · · Score: 4, Funny


    Can you imagine making love in THAT elevator?

    Talk about Mile High Club...

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  13. Can Imagine this Erection ! by MajorDick · · Score: 4, Funny

    2 Things, Here in Akron Ohio, the Now home of Televangelist Earnest Angley, the building he now offupies was televangelist Rex Humbards previously, Rex started to build a HUGE Rotating restraunt on a pillar, something along the lines of the "space" needles, He ran out of Money before he could finish, so now at one of the highest points of town, a large white tower stands with no purpose, everyone here calls it Rex's Erection

    A second note that almost killed me with laughter was , well let me start with I used to be in the building trades, one day while at a supply house, a New blue truck pulled up, the sign on the side ? "Short STEEL Erection" I was dying, they specailzed in Steel reinforced concrete. I always love that one I think they were out of Canton OH

  14. Upsidaisium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They need to find an upsidaisium mine. It has
    all of the prerequisite properties to make just
    such a silly project succeed. Beware that Boris
    and Natasha don't find it first.

  15. Re:Bouyant cables! by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ohh Google, can you tell me info about "high altitude balloons"

    And the good lord google said: even my children have flown over 82,000+ miles or 131962.6 kilometers using boyancy, which is way above AC's stated 35,785 km geostationary orbit my child.

    So lord google, what is the altitude for geostationary orbit?

    And the lord google replied: 35,787 km above mean sea level.


    That was 82000 FEET = 15 miles.

  16. Re:Doubtfull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see the headlines in 2018 already:

    OPENING OF NEW SPACE ELEVATOR ENDS IN FIASCO
    During the official opening of the first space elevator
    a tragedy happened when the president was asked
    to "cut the ribbon". This prematurely destroyed the
    twenty billion dollar project, sending a rock with a
    100,000 km long ribbon attached to it into space.
    Read more on pages 2, 3, 4, 6 and 8.

  17. Re:Better Space Sation ? by Keith+McClary · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could basically do all of the things the space station does

    What does the Space Station do?

  18. Re:How would you get the rope up/down. by ryanw · · Score: 2, Funny
    Go to the spacestation and say "it's comin' down catch?
    I think it's something more along the lines of "Repunzal, Repunzal..."
  19. Re:Better Space Sation ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    One should hope so, shouldn't one?

    Indubitably.

  20. Re:Nobody is going to build one of these. by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Funny

    "would float back to Earth like paper and no one would get hurt."

    Except for the mass injuries from paper cuts.

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  21. I'm tellin ya... by smokin_juan · · Score: 3, Funny

    This thing is going to wick the earth's atmosphere out into space. Then they'll feel stupid.

  22. Re:Doubtfull by thre5her · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you explain how this 'centrifugal force' is holding the cable up? I've never heard of such a thing :)

  23. What would the world do without Slashdot? by OnanTheBarbarian · · Score: 2, Funny

    "In the meanwhile, we can all spread the word, discuss, debate and brainstorm every nook and cranny of the program here on Slashdot, and give Edwards a shoulder by giving the program every bit of mass-exposure we can."

    Yes, I imagine that that will make all the difference. In future years, the touchstone of scientific and engineering excellence will be "Was it discussed, debated and brainstormed on Slashdot or not?"

  24. You asked for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered. The element, tentatively named Administratium, has no protons or electrons and thus has an atomic number of 0. However, it does have 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons. This gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons.

    Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than one second. Administratium has a normal half-life of approximately three years, at which time it does not actually decay but instead undergoes a reorganisation in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic mass actually increases after each reorganisation.

    Research at other laboratories indicates that Administratium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations and universities and can usually be found in the newest, best appointed and best maintained buildings.

    Scientists point out that Administratium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Administratium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising.

  25. Re:A WEEK?! by jeff+munkyfaces · · Score: 2, Funny

    view's going to be good though.

  26. Re:What does human advancement require? by MyHair · · Score: 2, Funny

    the weak will inherit the Earth

    Doesn't matter. We'll just beat them up and take it back.

  27. Re:Doubtfull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Maybe Chicago can do it? We already have a 4 billion dollar annual budget. Just tack on another 2.50 in cigarette taxes (ok, I'm a bit bitter about the latest tax increase, sue me!)....oh, and we can start it from atop the Sears tower to save 1,450 feet of building time ;)