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Webmonkey Closes its Doors
An anonymous reader writes "According to Wired, Webmonkey is being closed by TerraLycos after 8 years of teaching practical web building skills and bucking more traditional outlets. They've written some good stuff over the years - in fact, I first understood the significance of XML after reading one of their articles."
this is old news, the article even says Feb 17th
mmm...
It's more than closely tied, actually Terra Belongs to Telefonica. Telefonica :)
Telefonica is not as big as AT&T, but they are as evil
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
We'll always have Arhive.org, at least, although I'm not sure if they just mean that they are stopping adding new content or taking the place offline (yeah, RTFA, I know).
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
FWIW, I've found "W3Schools" a decent source of Pretty Good Tutorials for most things 'web (xml, xsl, css, etc.).
http://www.w3schools.com/
Some stuff seems IE centric - i.e.: some examples only work with IE6 and alternatives aren't suggested.
Mark
Thanks to the wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.webmonkey. com has, for the most part, working links to a great deal of content, not to mention a nice view of the evolution of the graphic design proclivities.
Hopefully the terralycos lawyers won't ask the wayback to pull the content.
As an aside, I wonder, but am doubtful, about whether alternate licensing could be arranged for the content, perhaps some form of the Creative Commons License??
cleetus
Index DOT HTML
Index DOT CSS
And the Complete Idiots Guide to HTML 4. All three of those resources helped me a great deal, plus looking at other sites source code to see how they were made. Some of WMs articles were OK, but it wasn't exactly overly helpful to me.
I'm amazing. You aren't. SUCK IT
wget is your friend (for personal use, of course :-))
Archive.org is your friend!
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
actually, the lay off spree is mostly complete.
i worked for tripod/angelfire for 4 years as their senior web developer (even wrote an article for webmonkey on PHP photo galleries) and at the time they closed webmonkey, lycos laid off most of it's employees who worked for "non-core" business parts now.
pretty much they (terra) are focusing on the money-making aspects (proudly tripod/angelfire seems to be one of these) and cutting the rest of the crap.
When webmonkey first came out --- their "wink wink see how easy this is" tutorials were like a breath of fresh air. The tone of their articles conveyed a warmth of being tutored by a fellow geek. Once I got my legs, tho, I stopped visiting. Their site was too disorganized to be a good reference site (contrast to sites like devguru.com).
It's sad to see em go, but I used to be a competitor of theirs until I cashed out my site (heh heh heh.
While they produced good articles, many of their articles were poorly written, or written far above the heads of their intended audience.
Back in the boom days, some of the WebMonkey employees got fed up with the corporate policies that valued ad placement over good content, often writing articles specifically tailored to woo the advertisers... a practice that clearly continued beyond the boom days. Those rebels started e-volt.. which still exists and is a vastly superior service.
Slashdot is successful because they provide content that their readers want... instead of what the advertisers want. A simple thing to understand unless you are a marketing professional.
The average marketing pro thinks that the average 'customer' doesn't know what to (think||read||buy) unless a marketeer tells them.
Just as irrigation is the lifeblood of the Southwest, lifeblood is the soup of cannibals. -- Jack Handy
I've used Dave's Site in the past. Doesn't have all the indepth stuff web monkey has, but still a pretty good how to site anyway, I think
http://www.davesite.com
Just once, I'd like it if someone called me "Sir".
Without adding, "You're creating a scene."
Want an archive of it? How about....
:-)
Internet Explorer --> Add to Favorites --> Properties of favorite --> Make available offline --> download tab --> follow links 6 pages deep (just to be safe) --> Synchronize.
This will give you an offline archive of the entire site, as followed by links on the pages. 6 pages deep might be a little much, but you can also tell it to not go to pages off of this site (that's the default setting). What you get is a (mostly) complete archive of a great site. Now make your own CD.
httrack is also your friend. I just found this tool (via the SpiderZilla front-end for Mozilla/Firefox). Did a good job of spidering a couple sites I was having trouble with using wget.
Hello, Since webmonkey is going down, what are some others resources that you guys find equally well? I know of Arson Network. What about you guys?
Dr. Dobbs.
It mostly focuses on semi to non-trivial topics that would be found useful by those working in industry. At the same time the articles are usually well written and easier to digest than the academic papers on the same topics.
It's not exactly web-centric though.
Mulder's Style Sheet Tutorial on Webmonkey is one of my favorite style-sheet references.
Table-ized A.I.
And make a mirror copy for your own personal edification.
-CorProphet, too lazy to log in.
I run a site called Help2Go -- it's all tutorials and help for newbies, including a lot of web stuff.
Best of all, it's all Creative Commons licensed, so the articles won't disappear like Webmonkey's soon will.
http://www.help2go.com/
Total size is 450MB, compressed down to 130MB using WinRAR 3.3.
View info and download the torrent here.
Homestarrunner.net -- It's Dot Com!
I think what you meant to say was:
.html extension for your viewing
wget -k -p -nh -E -nc -r -l 6 \
hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey
convert links
get prerequisites
don't dns everything
add a
don't clobber (download only once)
recursive
levels 6
slashdot wouldn't let my lines be long enough, so a \ : )
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Thanks to all for their kind comments about Webmonkey.
Despite what you've read here, we're not shutting down the site - it's just going into maintenance mode. That means no more updates, but all the old content will remain.
- Anonymous (TerraLycos) Coward
I guess maybe in my tiredness then I remembered something I forgot in my ultra tiredness now:
you can't -nc (not clobber old files) and timestamp -N
So you do have to
wget -r -l inf -k -E -nh -nc \ hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey
if you want it to work and not clobber. (meaning, you can do it repeatedly, and it figures it out.)
And, I think the AC was looking for -k
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