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Video Games Make People Fat and Mean

dblh3l1x writes "Reuters is reporting that a Swedish group finds 'Video games can make children fat and, in the case of violent games popular among teenage and younger boys, aggressive and even criminal.' These articles make me want to hurt someone. If I didn't get out of breath so easily, I'd go hurt someone right now, so instead I'm just going to go play the Unreal Tournament 2004 demo again."

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  1. Well... by josefcub · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know about mean, but I'm sure that if I excercised instead of played UT2k3, I'd probably be in a lot better shape. :)

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  2. Post hoc ergo propter hoc by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually video games attract people who are fat and mean.

    Fit mean people beat other up in the real world.

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    1. Re:Post hoc ergo propter hoc by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My original post was a joke, but let me make an observation relative to your point: it may actually be true that video games attract kids that don't like physical activity, but that's not the whole story. You have to consider that for many people they are not particularly self limiting activities, and can crowd out other activities such as exercise or eating. Either way its not good when taken to extreme.

      I'm a long time martial artist. Real world fighting is self limiting, because you get tired and hurt. Virtual fighthing gives some of the same stimulation but without the pain and fatigue. This stimulation is important because it counteracts fatigue and lets you go longer.

      Very few activities are less self-limiting than video games. Even reading is self-limiting because it doesn't give you the physical stimulation gaming does, so you get tired. That said, I've often spent too much time with a really book and had it cut into my sleeping and other activity time. But eventualy you finish the book; video games can be played over and over again without repeating exactly.

      For that reason, I would say that for some people games are likely to distort the healthy balance of activities that includes exercise, sleep and socialization. It doesn't really matter for those people whether they are fat because of inactivity or thin because they don't eat.

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  3. right on!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Want to get back at that school bully who has been taking your lunch money? Play more Quake! Then you can be big and mean and whoop his ass!

    What are you waiting for, four eyes? Get busy gaming so you can take your vengence!

    1. Re:right on!!! by bigman2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Videogames can be a catharsis for a lot of kids. Teenage boys just NATURALLY have a lot of anger, and frustration. Videogames can be an outlet for that.

      The woman who leads a group of mothers against videogames doesn't understand that these kids need an outlet. Masturbation will only take these boys so far, and they need some way to get out their anger, frustration, and desire to set things on fire.

      Give them a good game, and a magazine to spank to- and a few hours later he'll come out of his room calm, and ready to cooperate.

      Actually...I'm serious...

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    2. Re:right on!!! by TruffleGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Masturbation will only take these boys so far, and they need some way to get out their anger, frustration, and desire to set things on fire.'

      I dont know about you but umm... I don't think masturbation is a way to vent anger, frustration, and the desire to set things on fire.

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    3. Re:right on!!! by Sick+Boy · · Score: 5, Funny
      I don't think masturbation is a way to vent anger, frustration, and the desire to set things on fire.

      I don't think you're getting enough friction. Use a bit less lotion and the fire will start.

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    4. Re:right on!!! by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you ever tried NOT jerking off?

      First of all- it's really tough. Second of all, about 30 minutes after I decide not to jerk off anymore, I am wildly horny.

      After a few days (if it ever gets that far) my dog starts to look really, really good.

      I don't think I've ever gone beyond a few days. If for no other reason...why put myself through it?

      So yes- I really do think masturbation is a catharsis.

      Okay, here is the standard flimsy statement where I try to get you to believe I am not a total loser...but since nobody knows me, no point in really trying:

      Yes, I have intercourse with a female on a very regular basis. I still masturbate, because I enjoy it.

      And to stay on-topic...Umm...videogames don't make people violent- violent people make videogames.

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  4. Fat and mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey Limbaugh! Put down that damn joystick!

  5. Re:UT2004 Demo by tyler_42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats rather mean spirited, I bet your fat.

  6. Funny, I thought calories made people fat by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny, I thought that calories made people fat.

    So, if I stop eating but play lots of video games I will gain weight?

    I really hope that horribly bad statement was the reporter paraphasing (badly) the studies, rather than the conclusion the researchers came up with.

  7. Welcome! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our surly obese juvenile overlords with their excellent hand-eye coordination. I will only look on with admiration as they mature into an entire generation of Baron Harkonnen's.

    And if they need someone to direct them to sources of slaves to toil in their lardmines, they know where to look.

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  8. Original headine needed one more or one less comma by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/ 20040301/hl_nm/leisure_games_dc_6

    Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, Swedish Experts Say

    Personally I like the headline better if it is Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent Swedish Experts Say

    I leave it to the reader to decide how the sentence should be read but my personal vision is something like, "WTF YOU CALL THIS LUTEFISK!!??! GET IT RIGHT OR I'M GONNA BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOU!"

  9. Re:UT2004 Demo by Sevn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's all in good fun. My old nick was:

    DidYourWife

    The idea is, pissed off people have shitty aim.

    Other good choices:

    ChildMolester
    WifeBeater
    AOLuser

    And naw, I'm not a tub of lard. I just enjoy a good FPS game after a long day at work for two reasons:

    #1 If I win, I feel good.
    #2 If I lose, I get humbled. Everyone should lose once in a while. It's good for ya.

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  10. Stereotypes and Generalizations by metroid+composite · · Score: 4, Funny
    Even if you think that games make you fat (and it can't possibly be worse than Television can it?) There's obviously games that do not, like Dance Dancd Revolution.

    And violence makes you mean? Final Fantasy Tactics is a game about a civil war which consists primarily of battling with swords, guns, knives, spears, axes, magic, and mathematics. That's obviously a game centered around violence (especially math; that stuff HURTS). However, the good guys strive for peace; mediating between the two forces and looking out for the little guy. If FFT really makes kids mean then you can colour me confused.

  11. Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent ,Swedish by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    I prefer "Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, Swedish; Experts Say"

    I like the idea of kids running around going "Bork Bork Bork" on their way to Babbage's or McDonalds.

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  12. It's a documentary, not research.. by AltaMannen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "...which concluded that scientific findings of the effects, if any, of violent video games were scant."

    "But it has been proved beyond dispute that people who watch a lot of violence on television develop aggressive behavior," said Frank Lindblad

    For some reason Swedish television companies (the violent swedish experts in the article) loves to make documentaries and take things out of proportion, and then make another program where celebrities (but not usually experts who, if present, don't get to say much) debate the program.

    It is as if Rush Limbaugh made a documentary and then used his own documentary as proof in another program.

  13. Man that is funny by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 5, Funny

    "'They are in poor physical shape, they eat unhealthily, grow fat and suffer insomnia,' she said. "

    Yeah, they have to wait until they are 24 and working 12+ hours a day in a desk job. Then it is perfectly OK for this behaviour! It will have the added benefit of them NOT enjoying the activity also.

    But they will still:
    * Feel like killing people every 5 min
    * Get no sun or physical activity
    * Eat pizza and soft drinks
    * Have no life

    Unfortunately they will be able to blow off steam because your can't frag your opponent (read: boss) using an excel spreadsheet. (only older versions have the 3d doom game)

  14. This just in: people are affected by stuff by lightspawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and with all the amount of stuff, and all the people, you can find anecdotal evidence to support most any theory. It's a good thing these people are, you know, experts, or I'd be inclined to distrust their opinions.

    The article itself states that the documentary "was followed by a panel debate, which concluded that scientific findings of the effects, if any, of violent video games were scant."

    So it's just some "experts" seeding panic for personal fame and fortune.

    While we're all here, I would like to use this opportunity to link to a little snippet from ebay on my own site, which proves beyond any doubt that games are, indeed, corrupting today's youth.

  15. A big ol' grain of salt by MMaestro · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You know, I'd take the report more seriously if I knew the name of the Swedish group. Out of the entire news report, there was only one Swede quoted and/or even referred to.

    "But it has been proved beyond dispute that people who watch a lot of violence on television develop aggressive behavior," said Frank Lindblad, a child psychiatrist at Sweden's Karolinska Institute university hospital.

    So is he or is he not part of the group? He could've just been an guest speaker or a commentor on the topic.

  16. Popular Press Article vs. Reality... by Undefined+Parameter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok....

    Plays computer games? Check.
    Fat? According to the insurance industry... check.
    Mean? Not according to what I've been told.

    That's me.

    Plays computer games? Check.
    Fat? No check.
    Mean? No check.

    That's my best friend.

    Plays computer games? No check.
    Fat? No check.
    Mean? Check.

    That's [pick one: Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Ashcroft, Andrea Yates, Ted Bundy, all of the above].

    It's rather obvious that the "researchers" and the author are taking correlation for causation at the least; more likely, they've dredged up the findings they want and have published them as scientifically accurate.

    Meanwhile, the studies which have said that video games can actually be beneficial are buried.

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  17. pissed off gamer by ssand · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah I sure get pissed off after playing tetris. I look in the mirror and think "holy shit! look at how much weight i gained since I started playing today" then I go raging around the neighborhood throwing bricks, trying to pile them into nice stacks.

  18. Re:Stating the obvious by blazin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then again, I did the same thing to a model when I was trying to get the joystick in the cockpit.

    And how is that the model's fault? She probably just felt sorry for you.

  19. Only half true by nobodyman · · Score: 4, Funny


    Games like Dance Dance Revolution make you Lean and Mean!.

  20. There's some kind of "drive" in Sweden now... by eddy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Where someone -- either TV4 or they're simply tools -- is trying to create the news that 'video games make children violent'. It's been going on for two days now and will culminate tomorrow with some sort of 'documentary', which I'm going to _assume_ was produced by that former US Army guy who always seems to pop up when there's talk about video games and violence.

    We have a word over here for this "moralpanik" ("Moral panic"). To pimp this documentary the TV4 news 'previewed' it for some [woman] politician or another known for her prowess at shouting "BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN". Oh, well.

    Want to bet that this 'documentary' won't say a thing about violent games being an _outlet_ so you don't have to go hit someone IRL?

    Somewhat ironically, todays news also included "Football fans get together to fight", which is just that. Apparently two opposing teams set a time and a place and number (they want even teams), then the fight it out. No weapons allowed.

    Oddly enough, I haven't heard of any new studies being started to see if being a sportsfan leads to violence. Maybe we should restrict sports to people of age?

    All in all it stinks. They're manufacturing "news", and bad "news" at that. I'm going to watch this 'documentary' and if it's too one sided I'll report it to "Granskningsnamnden for radio & TV" which is an institution whose job it is to study news and the like to make sure it's fair and impartial and not too loop sided. A "conviction " by GNR will require the channel to make a public retration of sorts, so there's not a lot of tooth there, but it's something.

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