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Next Generation Mail Clients Reviewed

kreide writes "E-mail is the 'killer app' of the Internet; an enormous number of messages are exchanged every day, and while web-based mail has become very popular in recent years, many people still prefer the added speed and flexibility of a mail client application. In this review I compare the next generation of the most popular e-mail clients, including Evolution, KMail, Opera and Mozilla, and their usability in dealing with large number of messages."

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  1. Re:And what's wrong with Outlook? by Coderstop · · Score: 4, Informative

    RTFA! They review Outlook.

  2. Why do we need local clients by EasyTarget · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just ditched my email client, I'm 100% on openwebmail now.

    I'm a roaming contractor, so the alternative was trying to manage email clients at several locations, and constantly finding that something (address books, mail archives, etc..) was out of sync.

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    1. Re:Why do we need local clients by daveewart · · Score: 5, Informative
      I'm a roaming contractor, so the alternative was trying to manage email clients at several locations, and constantly finding that something (address books, mail archives, etc..) was out of sync.


      That's what IMAP is for.

      No, IMAP is just for message storage. You still have to manage the configuration of the clients which access the IMAP server. IMAP simply lets you store your messages in a portable format. If you want to share other things, such as address books, you need to use something else - perhaps LDAP.

      If you want a single 'client' at all locations, you probably want to use webmail.
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  3. Microsoft Office XP correction by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Informative
    Virtual folders: Microsoft Outlook does not support this feature.

    Well, yes, it doesn't support virtual folders in the way that others implement it.

    However there is an option called "Current View" (in "View") which allows you to see your inbox in a number of different ways. For example: by sender, by followup flag, by conversation, past seven days.

    In addition, you can create and define your own custom views. So if I want to see all messages with the word "fish" in them, with one or more attachements, where I've been cc'ed and posted in the last week, then I can do so.

    Which sounds very similar to virtual folders to me.

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  4. Um... Outlook XP? by MSFanBoi · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone else mentioned, Microsoft's current mail client is not Outlook XP, it's currently Outlook 2003.

    There are also several innaccuracies in his review of the product.

    1.) Outlook does indeed support emoticons. Use Word as your default text editor in Outlook.

    2.)You CAN forward attachments, both in line and otherwise...

    3.) Outlook can do key binding... it's under Options, Customize.

    4.) I've been creating and managing mail lists in Outlook since Outlook 98...

  5. They have some facts wrong about Opera. by Organized+Konfusion · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Opera M2 client is what I use every day for newsgroups, mailing lists, pop3 mail, imap mail.

    I know it inside out... the review makes two mistakes in the matrix of features.

    Firstly Opera does have both audio and visual mail notification.

    Secondly Opera Mail does have the ability to assign keyboard shortcuts of your choice.

    Thirdly it does support emoicons.

    If the reviewer gets so much wrong about Opera then there is no telling how many other mistakes he has made.

    1. Re:They have some facts wrong about Opera. by viware · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are correct.
      Further, I am using the Linux version and there is another mistake, as it does allow importing mail from both generic mbox files and netscape 6/7 mail.

      I didn't read the rest of this review, as those errors killed it for me. How can I trust anything else in the article?

      Also, why the hell are so many people supporting Outlook in here? Hasn't it been shown time and again that using either Outlook or IE is like internet suicide?!

  6. Re:outlook 2k3 by Zayin · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the FAQ in the article:

    Q: Why didn't you use the newest version of Microsoft Outlook? This doesn't seem like a fair comparison.

    A: The only reason Outlook was even included was to serve as a reference with what is commonly available for the majority of users (which still run Windows unfortunately) today.

    Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time. After reading the review they can, however, immediately decide it is time to try out one of the alternatives, several of which are multi platform.

    Also, I only had Office XP at hand when writing the review, which only helps to better illustrates my point I think.

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  7. What about Sylpheed? by zuikaku · · Score: 4, Informative
    I use Sylpheed and love it. In particular I love the fact that it can thread email messages (though other clients like Mozilla can also). The only thing I hate about it is the address book.

    There is a definite lack of predefined fields in the address book - no place to store phone numbers or addresses, for example. It does have a feature that lets you add ad-hoc fields (user attributes) to the contact's record, but there isn't a way to make all the contacts have the same add-on fields without defining them for each individual contact. It is also capable of using vCards, but it only seems to get the name and email address out of them, ignoring all the other info.

    If it wasn't for the poor address book, I'd be using it on my Windows box as well as my Linux system.

  8. Re: Continued factual inaccuracies on Outlook by Wingchild · · Score: 4, Informative
    heh, I went back to reading and found more stuff that wasn't kosher. Read on if you care about accuracy. :)

    Composing messages: Reply, reply to all and inline forward are supported, but attached forward seem to be missing as well as forward as-is.


    While looking at your Inbox,
    Tools | Options | first tab is Preferences | E-mail Options.

    Area called `On Replies and Forwards`. Dropdown list called `When forwarding a message`. Options are:

    • Attach original message
    • Include original message (inline)
    • Include and indent original message
    • Prefix each line of original message, and it lets you pick the prefix if you want.


    For the message composing Microsoft Word is used and all its features, such as spell checking, can thus be used. Most of the features, especially related to fonts and graphics, are naturally most useful when writing HTML mail.


    Strike out `is used` and write in `can be used` -- I routinely disable Word as my email editor because I don't want everything Word can to do happen to my email (such as substituting graphical smileys for the universal :) and similar).

    The fonts and formatting all work splendidly in Rich Text mode, which is 200% less suck-tastic than HTML mail.

    Blind carbon copy (BCC) does not seem to be supported at all. By clicking the "Options" button you can set a number of options for the message, however, including signing or encrypting. text.


    While composing an email -
    View | BCC Field

    Damn, I know that's hard to find.

    Unfortunately for the reviewer, I find Outlook remarkably easy to use, and always have. The reviewer's inability to find these simple, basic pre-installed options in Outlook calls into question the thoroughness of the review of any product listed. I'm just catching these because I happen to use Outlook fairly often.

  9. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They do compare Outlook but only Outlook 2002 not Outlook 2003 which is a completely different product. I've been using it for a couple of weeks and I actually like it a lot. Spam filtering, lets you prevent HTML (by default doesn't download images, etc from internet), new look that is much more user friendly, easier to create rules, better searching, etc. To say you are doing a fair review and not compare the latest offering is just biased.

    And I am not a Microsoft employee or shill. I prefer Linux on the server and Windows and Office on the desktop. It has nothing to do with politics, cost, freedom or anything else. It has to do with what I am comfortable using.

  10. Re:Next killer app? by cbreaker · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not an elegant alternative to E-Mail in any event, even if the IM server will "queue" the messages for you.

    The main point is that IM is not even close to a viable alternative to E-Mail and it was somewhat off the wall for him to suggest so.

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  11. Re:Outlook by Bobman1235 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not a microsoft support but I think it is a little remiss not to include the next generation of Outlook in your review. It seems to be the "most popular" client everywhere I've ever worked.

    SIGH. About six comments are moderated 3 or better with this exact same sentiment. So not only did the posters not read the article, neither did the moderators. While you can argue that his logic is flawed or that he could have included Outlook EXPRESS, he specifically states :


    The only reason Outlook was even included was to serve as a reference with what is commonly available for the majority of users (which still run Windows unfortunately) today.

    Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time. After reading the review they can, however, immediately decide it is time to try out one of the alternatives, several of which are multi platform.

    Also, I only had Office XP at hand when writing the review, which only helps to better illustrates my point I think.


    ALSO note that the author seems to be focusing on Linux mail clients (or at least AVAILABLE for Linux), which Outlook is NOT (AFAIK...).

  12. Re:No import? by prockcore · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why doesn't Evolution support importing mailboxes?

    Because he's reviewing a severly beta version of Evolution? The version he's using doesn't even refresh the inbox list until you change folders.

    Stick with 1.4.5 (which does support importing mailboxes) until 1.5 becomes 1.6

  13. MUTT sucks the least! by avishal · · Score: 4, Informative

    lesser than pine, lesser than elm, lesser than GNUs and certainly lesser than the stoopid clients compared - Evolution, Kmail, Opera, Mozilla and (hehe) Outlook. Ofcourse, like most other happy mutt users ("happy" is redundant though), I have installed, configured, used and finally uninstalled them all (thanks god its all over). Outlook (hehe) is an exception, it automatically got uninstalled when I deleted windows.

    Some of the reasons why I hate all the non-mutt clients:

    1. WINDOWS BASED: excellent virus support (is that a feature or a bug?) + (correct me if I'm wrong) hardly any fetchmail / procmail / mbox support. BTW, these are not the only reasons for hating (hehe) outlook

    2. GUI BASED: 'normally' heavy on system resources + un-necessary dependence on mouse + need to have an Xserver if you wish to check your mails from your colleague's windows machine (who is another building).

    3. Text Based: either not as fast or not as configurable as mutt.
    - Mutt loads my 9,000 messages (approx.) mbox faster than pine (haven't compared elm/gnus).
    - Searching for a particular messages takes me atleast 1/10th the time on mutt because it allows localizing searches and sorting results. Don't ever challenge any mutt user on this one.
    - Pine/Elm are not colorful, which is a very usable feature I believe.
    - Threading. Don't know if Pine/Elm have it (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
    - Mutt allows keybindings for almost everything. So, when I press F7, I see all messages from my friends; Esc F7 -> everything except from my friends; F8 -> Friends + Family; F9 -> ...

    Reasons why I sometimes hate Mutt:
    1. doesn't have news support
    2. doesn't work if my keyboard is not plugged in (i.e. solely with a mouse)
    3. no group object model (yet to be invented)

    Someone should do the study again.

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  14. Re:Outlook 2003 - Issues for Admins by Bleeblah · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find Outlook 2003's spam filtering spotty. Sometimes it captures a message, sometimes it doesn't.

    Of importance to admins will be the fact that Outlook 2003 does not play well with some LDAP servers, and it can sometimes throw funny "errors" (warnings in reality) on IMAP mailboxes that can worry lusers.

    The menu organization for configuration/customization/settings for Outlook 2003 is horrible and after using it for months I still have to click through different button paths to find the right panel.

    Outlook is also a huge resource hog, but that goes without saying, given that it is a modern kitchen-sink app.

  15. Re:Next killer app? by IpalindromeI · · Score: 5, Informative

    If my company had it's own internal IM that didn't require public servers out of our control, it may be feasible

    Your company could run its own internal Jabber server. There are lots of clients for the employees, one of which would probably be suitable for or adaptable to the company's environment.

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  16. Re: Just give me... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Just give me good ol'Mutt in most cases. I don't need HTML email...just plain text messages. Mutt is highly customizable...works with POP and IMAP..can choose my editor I want to use with it...once you get the keyboard shortcuts down..you can BLAZE through tons of email. Works with mixmaster, pgp...

    Great little tool...

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