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Compensation for Bandwidth Costs is Extortion?

Tha_Big_Guy23 asks: "According to this article, a man who created a website for his local Sheriff's department is being charged with extortion. This was caused by taking down the website after repeated attempts to get compensation from the county to cover the bandwidth costs. As a result, all his personal computer property, and company computer property was seized and he was jailed." "After being jailed he was charged with extortion, larceny by conversion, using a computer to commit a crime, and obstruction of justice. This website explains in more detail the circumstances surrounding the situation. Has anyone on Slashdot ever had an experience where a client was unwilling to compensate you for either your work, and/or the resources required to do your work?"

While the end result of this situation is a shame, let this situation serve as a warning for those of you who work, without a contract in place. While it is the general hope that people will behave in an honorable manner, sometimes this is just not the case, and contracts exist to protect both parties, when things go sour.

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  1. the following day... by blue_adept · · Score: 3, Funny

    everyone on his MSN contact list was placed under observation.

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  2. Huh? by El · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since the site shut down Jan. 1, the sheriff's office set up its own site, www.macomb-sheriff.com. The new site is bare bones compared to the original one, but Hackel said it provide the most important function -- public communication with his office in the form of e-mail.

    I see why they needed somebody else to build their web site -- they think they need a web page in order to receive email!

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  3. Ouch.. by hookedup · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now this is weird, I _just_ took a break to read slashdot from desiging the website for the police service in my city.

    Thank god I'm not going to be hosting it.

  4. Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's going to be pissed once he realises he's been slashdotted.

  5. Well... by Tuxedo+Jack · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it didn't have the bandwidth problems before, it sure will now!

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  6. now he gets 3.5 mil hits in 2 minutes by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The only hits this guy's getting now are if he runs a webcam in jail! 300 grand for a website... did he neglect to mention hosting the site on a SunFire 5k with 25 CPU's in it or something?

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  7. He faught the law by Bodhammer · · Score: 2, Funny

    and the law won...

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  8. Unfortunately, this guy was using EV1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...for hosting and their rates have really skyrocketed since their purchase of SCO licenses.

  9. Re:Oh, gotta rant, gotta rant on this one... by myowntrueself · · Score: 5, Funny

    "My shitty site gets in the order of 50-70k hits a month and I know its only my mom."

    Should've posted the URL here, dude.

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  10. Whack the new guy too by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you seen their website? http://www.macomb-sheriff.com/

    Their new web designer should probably go to jail too.

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    1. Re:Whack the new guy too by WCityMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wise move. Post the URL to the new website, and let Slashdotting REALLY give them a lesson about bandwidth costs ... :-)

  11. Re:Oh, gotta rant, gotta rant on this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    You run a seniors porn site?

  12. The Site in Question: by da3dAlus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Welcome to the Springfield Police department web site."
    "Press YES if you have committed a crime, and wish to confess. Otherwise, press NO."
    [Click]
    "You have selected NO, which means you have committed a crime, but do not wish to confess."
    "A padywagon is now speeding to your location."
    "In the meantime, please look at our online store. You have the right to remain...Fabulous!"

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  13. Only 16000 visitors by Stone316 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many before being slashdotted? 10?

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  14. Re:Thankyou sir by EpsCylonB · · Score: 5, Funny

    At what other news site could you exercise your mind to read between the lines, besides Slashdot?

    Fox ?

  15. AUUUUUGH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    IT BURNS IT BURNS!

    I was going to say it looks like a 10 year old designed it. But my 10 year old came in and said "Gee dad, that sure sucks.".

    I hope they get this guy before he defaces any other web site.

  16. Re:Let's do some math here... by sulli · · Score: 3, Funny

    By another measure, this guy is asking for almost a dime per hit! Did he confuse web hosting and crack dealing?

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  17. Re:Thankyou sir by Telcontar · · Score: 2, Funny
    My knee was jerking furiously until I read your excellent post. I can rest easy now knowing that there's two sides to this story and we have another sensationalized /. article.

    In other words, /. at it best! ;-)
  18. Re:Thankyou sir by TwistedGreen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, I'm very familiar with North American 'news.' My original post employs what is called sarcasm. It's actually quite useful, but may sometimes be misinterpreted in media which are lacking the ability to convey tone of voice.

    I generally tend to ignore American media.

  19. Re:Thankyou sir by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Funny

    And what have we learned today, children?

    Do not attempt to scam people who have the power to throw you in jail. The elderly are a much better target.

    Thank you and goodnight.

    -B

  20. Re:Thankyou sir by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Only hosipitalised? Well, baby steps I guess..

  21. Rants again. by stimpleton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Welp, I have read over the parent story, the 2 linked stories, and the replies on this site. While there is not enough to make a final judgement. With that said...
    Conclusion:
    1. Pat ran the risk of any business, investing time and money.
    2. He registered the name in his own name, as customers do not understand domains, UDAI, and why am I getting this bill from this odd company.
    3. Pat tried to get recompense for 2 years of work
    4. Pat is a poor business man who doesn't know contracts, TOS's etc.
    5. Pat is inexperianced.

    Also from this page, presumably, the average Slashdoter:
    1. Is a talented web designer. Not to mention developer.
    2. Is brilliant at business, draws up brilliant, watertight contracts for every job.
    3. Is paid $1.50 per hour. And wouldn't have it any other way.
    4. Believes crimes against soft entities(murdered, raped humans) is a darwinian consequence, whereas being a bad web designer, and business man deserves death( with preliminary torture session for resistering domain name in his name).
    5. Is relieved to see IT worker pay structure is somewhere around street sweeper, and lawyers, copyrighters, graphic designers, govt employees are sooo deserving of the high pay they get.

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  22. Re:Wow what a site! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I slashdotted the Sheriff, but I did not slashdot the depute.

  23. Re:God will save him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The heathens of course! Gooooooooo heathens!

  24. Re:Oh, gotta rant, gotta rant on this one... by gantrep · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tiled pink background + oversized US Flag + 3 short columns of centered text + strange rendering makes it too wide for browser initially + animated gifs + blue underlined text that's not a hyperlink + link to where you already are + lame useless joke about dashes = head implosion.

  25. Re:The domain is registered to someone in Virginia by Lawbeefaroni · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, yes. fountainhead_463@hotmail.com. Nothing like a hotmail.com address to inspire confidence in your professionalism or legitimacy. Throw in "_463" at the end there is no doubt whatsoever.

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  26. Re:Oh, gotta rant, gotta rant on this one... by bugnuts · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, that's 3.5 million users per month...
    42 million per year
    115.5 million for the lifetime of the site


    That's 116,666-2/3 users per day!

    And I was one of those 116,666-2/3 users waiting, finger poised over mouse, for that exhilarating first day when the sheriff's site first opened!

    Of course, as one of those single users, I was only allowed to send a single "GET" http command. I had to get all my friends to send their single GET command, so that we could see the pictures of all our favorite celebs at the site, too.

    One friend misspelled it as "GTE" and was shamed forever. Maybe after another 119 years when all 5 billion humans on earth have had their chance to be a "user", they'll allow him to try again.

  27. Re:Thankyou sir by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    He forgot the 285th rule of acquisition: "No good deed goes unpunished."

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  28. Where is the Flamebait MOD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Surely this is flamebait. He even admits to running counter to our 'view'.

    Burn him!

  29. So let me get this straight... by lxs · · Score: 3, Funny

    On the one hand you have a Sherrif that locks up people if they look at him funny. On the other hand you have a scheming web-designer that tries to rip-off the Sherrif's department.

    Sounds like a movie remake of the Dukes of Hazzard to me. Well, after the Avengers, Charlies Angels and Starsky and Hutch what would you expect? Have the Duke boys solve the dispute, add car chases to taste and you have a working script.

  30. You think that's bad... by MolecularBear · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you seen their website? http://www.macomb-sheriff.com/

    Their new web designer should probably go to jail too.


    Check this one out. It's a website for a local theatre - gaudy as hell with poorly presented content. I actually emailed them and complained about their poor design... didn't hear anything back though :) Still, I think that sheriff site has them beat. It's so bad you have to think it's intentional...

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  31. Re:Thankyou sir by smack_attack · · Score: 2, Funny

    If this had been reported on FoxNews, Richard would have been a member of Al Qaeda trying to create a fifth column in the sheriff's office through his web design skills.

  32. Re:Thankyou sir by Eradicator2k3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Pat thinks paying (or "volunteering" as both links indicate) $300,000 in services and bandwidth are tough on him, wait until he gets the bill for his defense website getting slashdotted. Justice4Pat? Yes, it is.

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