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KDE 3.2.1 Released
TheSurfer writes "The KDE project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.1, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes. KDE 3.2.1 ships with lot of bug fixes since KDE 3.2 and is available in 49 languages (now including Bengali, Icelandic, Japanese, Lithuanian, Low Saxon, Latin Serbian and Tajik). Sources and contributed packages are linked on the KDE 3.2.1 info page."
I released POPFile v0.21.0, perhaps I should have submitted a story?
And while we're it at, could we stop with the posturing "the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux".
John.
I am running KDE 3.2 right now on my Gentoo Linux box. A really good upgrade from KDE 3.1. Its like switching from Jaguar to Panther in Mac terms, or Windows 95 to 98 in Windows terms. It looks mostly like KDE 3.1, but its so much faster and the GUI has been cleaned up a bit (no more bloated interfaces, but still with all the features, what do you gnomers say now?)
Fluxbox fans will like that you can now configure kde to switch virtual desktops in kde by using the scroll wheel, and the new Plastik theme looks good. I use it for my Window Border, but I still like the kermick style better. So if you are stuck using KDE 3.1 or less, then get your distro to upgrade. I will probably be emerging this release tomorrow.
Yes, there is a project for Esperanto. It is only 40% complete though, so go and help!
And they missed out on 2.6.4 too! and GNOME 2.6! and $YOURFAVORITESOFTWARE_X_Y!
New software is being released all the time. Sure KDE is a fairly large component, but why hold up an entire distribution for a point release?
The point is that sometimes things need to get shipped. There's always the possibility to get updated packages for your system, or just wait until the next Mandrake point release, which can't be more than a few months away.
announced the immediate availability of
What is the difference between the "availablility" and the "immediate availability" of a product?
Is it like the "closing down sale" and the "genuine closing down sale"? Or like the "additional 20% discount on top of our normal 30% discount"?
If it's available, it's immediatly available. If it is not immediatly available, it's not available.
bash$
I used Windows for a long time, but then switched to Linux (Mandrake with KDE). I had no major problems whatsoever regarding usability - everything worked more or less like in Windows, but there were more nice things you could tweak and adjust. That's why I love KDE.
Now (for the first time, I admit) I had to use a Mac, with OS/X. I had a hard time. Everything was different - hell, there wasn't even a freaking right mouse button!
I didn't have to spend much time with it, and maybe, if you grow up with a Mac, it's great, but for someone used to Windows or KDE, it's a nightmare.
Don't mod me Flamebait, I am dead serious. What is it with Mac OS/X?
Related to a serb by marriage...the language indeed is written using cyrillic letters, but is also commonly written using the roman alphabet. I see a lot of hand-written things around my sister's house that use my native alphabet but that I can't read--and I can read russian. the cyrillic alphabet the serbs use indeed has a few characters different from the russian alphabet.
probably too much useless info, though...
A big giant "K" button
The K button is the same size as all the other buttons. If you think it is a different size to others, then you have misinterpreted a screenshot of somebody who has icon-zooming switched on, and given away the fact that you haven't used KDE.
with approximatly 2,000 groups
That's not the truth. A default install has about a dozen groups, separated into different categories like "Games" and "KOffice".
Stop trolling.
For more details on Low Saxon, see this page. There's even a link to a map of the areas where it is spoken.
There is simply no good reason to have your web browser be your filesystem browser. One program is designed to retrieve graphical content via an HTTP protocol and display it, while the other is designed to display folders and manipulate files through moving, copying, and so forth.
Please don't talk about something you know nothing about. A web browser isn't designed to retrieve "graphical content". A file manager has many of the same characteristics as a web browser, especially when you consider WebDAV and the like.
try telling an application menu to remain at the top like MacOS--then shoot the cursor up and click--there is a space of a pixel up there that doesn't register as a click, defeating the whole purpose, because Mac users are used to slamming the mouse up and hitting a menu which is faster than pinpointing a menu attached to a floating window
The term you are looking for is Fitt's Law: since the edges of the screen are essentially infinite in depth, items placed on the edges are much larger and therefore easier to click.
I've just switched the feature you are talking about on: the bug you describe does not exist in 3.2. This just lends more credibility to the theory that you haven't used KDE .
Yes, I was waiting to upload KDE until 3.2.1 came out. The reason KDE 3.2.0 was never uploaded to sid was that it was far too buggy in important areas such as kmail eating email. Even with KDE 3.2.1 several major bugs have already been found since its release to packagers last week. But users who always complain that KDE in Debian is outdated will have their shiny full of bugs release.
Funny, I'm a furry and I use KDE. ;b
Bít, zabít, jen proto, ze su liska!
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Standard behavior for most distributions is to save/restore sound settings at system halt/startup in the init scripts. So it is not exactly normal for the desktop or any other program to handle this itself, and I would guess that only a small minority of KDE users actually require KMix to work in this way. Which is probably why nobody caught the bug in the first place. Personally I use KDE and don't even have the mixer app installed.
"(Man) tries to live his own life as if he were telling a story. But you have to choose: live or tell." --Sartre
Most of my ancestors are from the northwestern part of Germany (Oldenburg, Hanover, etc.), and my grandparents spoke "Low German" here in America until 1917, when English suddenly gained in importance. Whenever I asked my grandparents if they still remembered much German, they would say something like, "Oh, sure, but it's just that Low German." I never really understood what they meant by that - I figured they were just being their usual overly-modest selves.
A post a day keeps productivity at bay.
Maybe you can use the public key-like "challenge-response" setup - where the security tells you some random stuff to say, you repeat it and the security analyzes your voiceprint to figure out if the right person is saying it. (Of course, if the security accidentally gives you a tongue-twister, maybe the way you screw up the words is also part of your "voiceprint"...)
Low Saxon ?
:-)
My wife is a german scholar and teacher and she grew up speaking Low German (or Niederdeutsch or Plattduutsch) und "Ick kunn ok een betten platt schnacken" despite the fact that I'm English, who are supposed to be the worst people in Europe at learning foreign languges
My wife always refers to it as low german in English and in German academic texts it is always refered to as "Niederdeutsch". I have never heard of it referred to as Low Saxon
Lower Saxony is one of the states (Laender) of Germany and Low German is spoken in parts of it, particularly in the countryside. Maybe someone from there is the KDE translator and has decided to hijack the name of the language
It's a very interesting language with a long history. It was the lingua franca of the Hanseatic League. There is no official orthography for Low German although it is generally spelled phonetically using modern german pronunciation of the letters ( a bit like writing "parlay voo" as a phonetic english spelling of "parlez vous"). It is almost impossible for "normal" or High German speakers to understand someone speaking Low German. Funnily enough, I come from a part of England where the local dialect is strongly influence by scandinavian and germanic (North East England) so that because I could speak High German and the traditional dialect of my region, I had very little problems understanding Low German the first time that I heard it. In fact some words are exactly the same. For example we pronounce water as "watter" and low germans say "vatter". For going we say "gannin" and they say "ga'an".
I think that there are still some pockets of Low German speakers in the USA.
So there you go, a quick introduction to Low German.
Keek mol weder een !
No but, yeah but, no but...
Yes, in Germany it has been known as Low German for many years, primarily due to political/sociological reasons in denying it to be anything other than a variant of German, rather than a language in its own right.
Although there may be pockets of speakers in Lower Saxony I doubt it was anyone from that area that had anything to do with this, since neither the "Low" or the "Saxon" have anything to do with Lower Saxony. Low Saxon is the Saxon language of the Low Countries. In other words the coastal region. It seems more likely to me that the originators of the translation come from one of the port cities.
And yes, there are pockets of Low Saxon speakers here in upstate NY (heavy colonization by people of the low countries), which is where I first became aware of the language (my SO's grandparents being German immigrants).
KFG
Nah you are the one that is wrong :)
It is latin serbian. Once long time ago (before 1991) there was a language called Serbo-Croatian. It was one of three official languages (beside slovenian and macedonian) in Yugoslavia. When Yugoslavia vanished in 1991 so did the serbo-croatian. In Croatian it is croatian, in Serbia it is serbian, in Bosnia it is bosnian. It could be argued that all these languages are still one same language but as people prefer to have "seperate" languages they should be allowed to do so. Differences are not that great but generally differences are following: prefered way of writing:
Bosnia: latin
Croatia: latin
Serbia: cyrillic
(note that you can write serbian in latin if you want and croatian and bosnian in cyrillic if you want)
amount of foreign words (notably of turkish origin) in serbia and bosnia are much greater than in croatia. thus neighbour would be spellt as.
Bosnia:komsija
Croatia: susjed
Serbia: komsija
susjed is proper word of south slavic origin. (note that there are people in serbia that say susjed, but majority use komsija. and vice versa for croatia)
other big difference is that people in croatia and bosnia use so called "ijekavski" dialect while people in serbia use "ekavski" dialect. Difference is that some 1000-2000 words in serbia are spellt and pronounced with only e while in croatia and bosnia they are spellt with ije. Kinda like color and colour in american and brittish english. Example:
English: flower | milk
Bosnia: cvijet | mlijeko
Croatia: cvijet | mlijeko
Serbia: cvet | mleko
(note there is even third dialect that is spoken in some part of croatia which is called "ikavski". where cvijet would be pronounced and spellt as "cvit" and milk as "mliko")
Third difference is heavy use of h in bosnia.
English: rotten | coffe
Bosnian: truhlo | kahva
Croatian: trulo | kava
Serbian: trulo | kafa
There are other small differences but they are too small to be mentioned here. Thus it should be called latin Serbian, if you use all words and spellings that people in serbia usually use but spell it with latin.....
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