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SCO Consultant S2 Strategic Consulting In Depth

cdlu writes "Wondering about SCO's contractor S2? They're the people that wrote Halloween II and indemnified SCO... well, here's all you want to know about them from NewsForge." (NewsForge is part of OSDN.) Maybe not all you want to know, but enough for one day. Several readers also point out Bruce Perens' column on CNET today which reiterates the difficulty SCO faces in attempting to get past the clarification of license terms AT&T offered Unix licensees in 1985.

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  1. Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wondering about SCO's contractor S2?
    Not really, why do you ask?
  2. $2? by mattjb0010 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Phew, for a second there I thought it read "$2 Strategic Consulting".

  3. Address for S2 Consulting is a house... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...albeit a mansion. The mapquest map shows this address about as high as you can go in the salt lake valley.

    1. Re:Address for S2 Consulting is a house... by HFKIRSpyderMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Interesting... if not a little creepy that you decided to map out directions to their place. I hope my address never gets /.ed

  4. Quick synompsis by cluge · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The more you dig into SCO, the more bovine feces you find. Some of these feces have a the distinct "redmond feces" smell, while other feces seem to have a vague odor of "corruption" and "bad legal advice". It's hard to tell the last 2 apart.

    The fact is that Microsoft had dominated the software market because the identified who/what was the industry standard and they under cut their price, and/or provided the product free OR bought out the competitor and silently buried the product. With Linux - it becomes very hard to utilize this successful strategy. This article seems to point to the developing theory that MS has taken the low road. When you can't compete, sue (in thise case finance the suer, keeping pretty hands "clean").

    In the end - this deserves more investigation. I'm still not convinced that this isn't just the most ellaborate pump and dump scheme yet devised.

    AngryPeopleRule

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  5. Wayback archive for S2 by merc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not sure how current the other listings for S2 are, but wayback machine shows their old website, which contains some interesting demographic data (particularly, an office in Redmond, WA).

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  6. Covered by Eric Raymond ++ on Thelinuxshow tonight by bstadil · · Score: 5, Informative
    Head on over to TheLinuxshow tonight. Starting at 8 Central this issue will be covered in details plus a section on how to complain to the SEC about MS' involvement.

    If you take the trouble on filing a formal complain to the SEC you could actualy make a difference.

    Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.

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  7. "News"forge? How about Conjectureforge. by dmccarty · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think SCO's tactics are as despicable as they come, but let's keep it fair. Somehow I doubt that this story belongs in the "News and Trends" section of Newsforge. Try the "Conjecture and Hypothesis" section instead.

    What news are they reporting? It's not news when you whine about why phone numbers didn't work and why you could get in touch with attributions (Anderer, Sontag, etc.). It's not news when you start a paragraph with "That leaves us, for now, with a couple of major unanswered questions." News reporters answer questions; they don't ask them. And it's not news when your story is speckled with "imagine all the partnering," "Anderer appears to be" and "what you smell cooking in the kitchen is usually what is served."

    Give me a break. I'm all for Linux advocacy, but let me know when you have some real news.

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  8. Re:Phone "Out of order" for several days by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but then a few days after that you're likely to find out your new paperboy is Mike Wallace.

    I hate when that happens.

    KFG

  9. It won't be long now... by jmors · · Score: 5, Funny
    (setting) A dimly lit street corner in a City in Utah...

    DM: Pssst, hey buddy, come'ere

    Passerby: Who are you and what do you want?

    DM: Wanna buy a valuable license? (opens trench coat)

    Passerby: What's it a license for?

    DM: I can't tell you, if I tell you I would have to kill you, but truuuusssssttt me, it contains license to use some valuable IP!

    Passerby: How Much?

    DM: How much you got?

    Passerby: (pulling out his checkbook) I only have 12 dollars and 15 cents left in my account.

    DM: That'll do.

    Passerby: Who do I make the check out to?

    DM: Corporate Attorneys Suing Humanity, but you can abbreviate and just make it out to C.A.S.H

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  10. A little too obvious? by psi42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "And why does domain registration information for S2.com give the obviously false phone number 123-456-7890"

    Indeed, why? I would think even SCO would be smart enough not to make an under-the-counter relationship with MS so blisteringly obvious.

    IMHO, this means either of two things:
    a) There is no under-the-counter conspiracy
    b) SCO is smoking even more crack than we previously thought :)

    I hate SCO as much as the next guy, but I would think that multi-billion dollar corporations would do a little better job covering their tracks.

    Or perhaps not. :)

    ~psi42

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  11. Re:Phone "Out of order" for several days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have to suspect they're out of business since their Web site shows a plain image with no content while archive.org shows they had previous content. And www.siliconstemcell.com, showing the same whois information as s2.com and s2.net, redirects to the FBI site. Also, looking up S2 at https://secure.utah.gov/bes/bes shows them as delinquent.

  12. Conspiracy Theories by StarWreck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since the release of Halloween X... the SCO and Microsoft "development" has been increasingly sounding like a massive conspiracy that has been in the works for at least several years.

    Did Mr. Anderers, Darl McBride and the other conspirators originally meet with Microsoft Agents while working at IKON when they hatched their plan?

    Was Silicon Stemcell created merely as a front to allow the conspirators to plan and work in secret? If not, then why is all that can be found out about Silicon Stemcell is that "may have moved again or gone out of business"? Was Silicon Stemcell actually just cast aside when their secret plot was ready to launch?

    Did Darl McBride position himself to become CEO of SCO merely to carry out the plot, planned years ahead of time? If not, then how is the connection between McBridge and Anderers at IKON explained?

    Was S2 also created as a front, to allow Mr. Anderers and the other conspirators into the front door that McBride had opened? If S2 is a real company, why does their website consist of 1 page with no links and no information and have their domain registered under a falsified phone number? How, exactly, did SCO even contact S2 to form their "business relationship" unless you take into account McBride's previous "friendship" with Anderers.

    YOU BE THE JUDGE!

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  13. The SCO Group is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    The SCO Group is dying

    It is official; NASDAQ confirms: the SCO Group (SCOX) is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered SCO Group when NASDAQ confirmed that SCOX market price has dropped yet again, now down to less than a half of its October trading price. Coming on the heels of a recent NASDAQ report which plainly states that SCOX has lost more market capitilization, the market serves to reinforce what we've known all along. SCO Group is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by being dead last in a recent NASDAQ Losers list.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict SCO's future. The hand writing is on the wall: SCO Group faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for SCO because SCO is dying. Things are looking very bad for SCO. As many of us are already aware, SCO continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    UnixWare is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core users. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time SCO Group CEO Daryl McBride and Chris Sontag, the SCO vice president only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: SCO Group is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Window's leader Bill Gates states that there are 70 users of Linux. How many users of UnixWare are there? Let's see. The number of UnixWare versus Linux posts on Usenet and Slashdot is roughly in a ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there must be about 70 * 5 = 350 UnixWare users.

    Due to the troubles of the Lindon, Utah company, abysmal sales and so on, the SCO Group may go out of business and be taken over by Microsoft, who sells another troubled OS. Now that UnixWare is also dead, its corpse is to be turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that SCO Group has steadily declined in market share. SCO Group is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If UnixWare is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. UnixWare continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, UnixWare is dead.

    Fact: the SCO Group is dying.

  14. wayback s2.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20010425142653/http:/ /s 2.com/index.html

    From wayback you can see there site has changed many times. It used to be owned by someone else and in the mid 90s was a sports site. A few years back we find things like:

    S2 is a second-generation entrepreneurial venture firm that specializes in developing and accelerating companies that commercialize emerging technologies across a wide spectrum of industries.

    S2 is headquartered in Salt Lake City, UT, with additional offices in Redmond, WA, Detroit, MI and Columbia, SC. S2 Capital, the company's affiliated financial firm, is located in Charleston, SC.

    They really did have a lot of offices as you can see:

    S2 - Headquarters

    56 East Broadway
    Salt lake City, UT
    84111
    v.801.415.2100
    f.801.415.2101

    info@s2.com

    S2 - Central States

    123 South Main
    Royal Oak, MI
    48067
    v.248.837.1400
    f.248.837.1401

    S2 - Southeast

    1200 Main St. ste. 1000
    Columbia, SC
    29201
    v.803.772.5922
    f.803.733.6799

    S2 - Northwest

    8195 166th Ave. NE ste. 101
    Redmond, WA
    98052
    v.425.882.2893
    f.425.881.5773

    S2 Capital

    418 king St.
    Charleston, SC
    29403
    v.843.722.8670
    f.843.937.8518