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Stop! Website Thief!
Rick Zeman writes "We've all heard of people grabbing an image from this web site, ideas from that web site, or some content from yet another web site. But what do you do when someone takes your entire web site and hosts it in a foreign country? Silicon.com has an article that tells the tale of two such web sites."
http://www.carorcar.com
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another page
and another page
Or maybe just a thousand of us firing off wget -r in their direction. Redirect it to /dev/null...
Will this get me a "-1 Instigator" mod? ;)
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Quite often contacting their hosting provider and simply pointing out to them that they are hosting content violating your IP will be enough. Most hosts have T&Cs that cover this. This is, of course, after simply asking the person to stop using your IP. They may just not realise, or they may just be a 12 year old kid.
There are very few people in this world who would maliciously copy the Web site for the purpose of mirroring it out of their own pocket. More often than not, it's the pageviews and ad rotation that they're after.
Proliferation of Google Ads, and similar offerings from FindWhat and MarketBanker allowed a bunch of content-driven Web sites to exist and make money at the same time. At one of the sites I run the click-through ratio on Google Ads (the site's only means of survival) are at about 0.1-0.2% and thus more traffic and more content means more targetted visitors, more pageviews, and with 0.1-0.2% ratio being (you hope) constant, more money.
So hit them where it hurts. If they earn money through Google, Findwhat or MarketBanker, contact the ad engines. Most of the time it's abuse of the service agreement and abuse of their advertising system. They send the paychecks, and if they tell the guy to shape up or have the account suspended, actions will be taken.
Contact their ISP or hoster, regardless of the country. Unless both the hoster and site copier are the same people, you can find reasonable understanding there, with hoster giving then the warning to the copier about possible implications.
Contact his advertisers. If you see lots of Amazon referral links, contact Amazon Associates support with the problem description. I never heard Amazon actually doing something about it, but the pressure from several points on the copier might enhance your chances of him giving up.
Check this out. Go to Yardcare.com. If you read the text under how to restore your lawn you'll notice refrences to pictures and charts but you don't see any.
Now go to This Popular Mechanics Article and notice the text is verbatim, only this time with the proper pictures and charts.
Which one is the origional site? Hmm...not to hard too figure out. I wasn't sure if I should have emailed PM or not, either way I think its rather rude and unbecoming of the web.
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Umm... That post actually isn't off topic.
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Anyone still remember Mahirs 15 minutes of fame because of his crazy website? If I remember correctly someone pretty much stole all his content and hosted it for laughs...SO not offtopic, just not very well explained.
The original can be found here
http://www.ikissyou.org/famous_site/famous_
~Z
I am all too aware of the problems faced here.
We accept article submissions to our site and have had another webmaster copy these articles. We are unable to do anything about it (not our copyright) and the authors seem unconcerned that their work appears on a site designed specifically to generate advertising revenue.
It's a slap in the face to all the hard work I've done contacting people and seeking permission to use their work, for someone to come along and copy it on a daily basis to make a quick buck.
Fortunately, most of our content is original and written in house so we can protect our own copyright, so the other site is far from a carbon copy of our own.
In situations where our own work has been copied, the offenders have removed the material either on request or when we contacted their hosts.
There should be more legislation in place to protect copyright interests. As it is, information is a free for all and simply removing the evidence when asked to removes all responsibility.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
That completely depends on the site and the ad program. Google AdWords for example are pay per click, but many (most?) banner ads are pay per impression, with CPM (cost/thousand impressions) being a key metric. We have banner ads on our site and they are *all* pay per impression.
The problem would be collecting on the judgment. Since the site has advertising, you might want to contact the advertisers.
Talk with a good IP/Internet lawsuit. If they don't know Rio v. Rio, then try another.
Fight Spammers!
It's amazing how many bottom feeders there are out there: http://www.pirated-sites.com/
Lots more here.
I'm reposting this cause I want to make shure ppl read it:
To all of you thinking of a DDOS attack (slashdotting) to those thieves:
EVER heard of "not guilty until proven otherwise"!?!?!?
If we start slashdotting evry site that is not correct to... us... it's kinda ovbious to me that we'll be doing not only something that is plain wrong but also that is plain illegal.
--krahd
mod me up scottie!
Back when goatse.cx still existed, Hick.org and goatse.cx were the same site. Same server, same IP address. It chose which site to serve based on what URL you typed in.
If you connected to hick.org, and issued an http GET http://goatse.cx/, you would get the disgusting page rather than the reletivly benign hick.org page.
This really burns me.
As a geek who is into manufacturing, I was listening to some of the international trade speechifying on CSPAN the other day, and heard the following particularly relevant tale from Rep DeFazio of Oregon. (Quote courtesy of a quick search of the congressional record)
For the full transcript, go here
- Dave
Instuctions on how to obtain flash files from a website:
1) Install Lynx. This can be obtained from http://lynx.browser.org/
2) Type in the command 'lynx [URL]' and replace [URL] with the URL of the flash you would like to get.
3) Type 'D' for download, then type the filename you would like it saved as.
Should be installed under your apache bin directory as 'ab'. I recommend the following if you have a decent pipe:
Add -D carorcar.com to keep hits to the ad page from getting through.
pirated-sites
I mod down anyone who says "I will be modded down for this", regardless of the rest of their comment
Er, no. Even if you credit the original author, if you duplicate the work without permission then you've infringed his copyright. Even if you give Peter Jackson and New Line Cinemas full credit, you still aren't allowed to duplicate Return of the King and give copies to all of your friends. Website content is no different.
You may quote a website--in moderation, and with appropriate citation--for various purposes (fair use) but duplication of the whole thing (or a substantial part thereof) is out of bounds.
You are perfectly legal if you link to any content on the public internet. Obviously, you're also in the clear if you obtain permission in advance to mirror a site for someone.
~Idarubicin
> Thanks to the [Timeout locking counter file]
> visitors who have stopped by our site.
Congrats guys. You just slashdotted a webcounter.
Hope they aren't getting revenue per hit.
Matt
Norman Cook's Ode to Sl
They were serving at 85-333ms when I started, they are now at 1510-9925ms. Ouch.
(I am, of course, merely testing ab and my own pipe, not doing anything to their site in protest).
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Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
Typical /. hypocrisy. When you misappropriate IP in the form of music, movies, and software, you say it's not "theft" -- but when someone does the same to your website, you call them thieves, and get all up at arms about it...
I've noticed this sort of thinking before, in fact, I used to agree -- Then I took into account that, think about it, slashdot has enough users to take out entire websites at the blink of an eye when a story is posted, and you STILL see a ton of posts by people who did not RTFA, so let's say it's a 50/50 split, 50% read the articles, and 50% don't. If half of the userbase reading the site at one point can take down a server, then I'm sure you can imagine that the opinions of slashdot will span the gambit. There's a lot of people here, hundreds of thousands, it's just people choose to speak up on different topics.
To use your example, usually nobody feels strongy enough against P2P "Music sharing" to say anything about it, yet a lot of people do feel strongly enough FOR P2P as a technology to defend it's right to exist. So here you see slashdot is "mostly for the piracy of music" because nobody's defending the artist's right to get paid, when in fact, I seriously doubt that's the case. Just the loudest, more vocal people are heard.
I don't think it's so much hypocracy, but a case of different people from a pool of hundreds of thousands speaking out about the stories that interest them the most.
-matt
What you do is call the police and file a complaint and then start legal proceedings. They clearly are going to lose.
The issue is what your damages are. At best you _might_ be able to recover the investment in the time that would be required to compile all of this information.
Your position is no different than say Walt Disney who has tee shirt designs, characters and so forth taken illegally. The difference is that in the case of copyright infringment there are now some laws that place some pretty steep fines and indeed, place it under teh criminal code.