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Stop! Website Thief!
Rick Zeman writes "We've all heard of people grabbing an image from this web site, ideas from that web site, or some content from yet another web site. But what do you do when someone takes your entire web site and hosts it in a foreign country? Silicon.com has an article that tells the tale of two such web sites."
Unless the foreign country shares IP laws with where you are there is nothing you can do.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
Typical /. hypocrisy. When you misappropriate IP in the form of music, movies, and software, you say it's not "theft" -- but when someone does the same to your website, you call them thieves, and get all up at arms about it...
As long as they are not altering the content and then spoofing you domain.. (i.e in america typing www.website.com has the legit website where is country x typing www.website.com being a porn site)
However, even if they are not being a true mirror, then what really can you do? not much. One could attempt to send them a please stop, and maybe even some scary lawyer letter, but if they are not in your same country what will it matter to them. Yes there are International laws, but how well has America for instance followed them as of late. DISCLAIMER: I am an American, and I am not bashing the USA without merrit.
avast pirated sites me shipmates
You can't stop people from copying your design, especially where there is no appropriate laws to protect you. Even if there was, it wouldn't worth your time to sue those copycats. Only big companies can afford that, then again no one will be stupid enough to copycat a big company's website, except for scams and parodies.
Anyway, if your site's content-based, ie the attractiveness of your website is not about the look, but the content, then you may stand a chance.
For example, anyone can screen-scrap Slashdot to the fullest, but who is going to look at those copycat sites?
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
What exactly is wrong with what he did ?
He probably ran across yours while searching for "Jason Slaughter resume" in order to make sure he was getting his name out there. Yours looked better.
Are you really going to argue the case about "look and feel" being copyrightable, which Steve Jobs lost back in the early 90's ?
If I were hring the other Jason Slaughter, and I was fully aware of how he had assembled his resume, I don't think it would make a bit of difference to my decision.
Ad Revenues are based off click-through rates, not page impressions. As long as you don't click the ads, it's fine.
occultae nullus est respectus musicae - originally a Greek proverb
Dynamic content from an active community. If a couple of static pages is all you're bringing to the table, it's easy to steal. I'd like to see someone steal Slashdot.
This is just the natural risk of running a business on the Internet. The Internet was never supposed to be a medium for making money, but if you're going to use it as such, don't get angry when you're burned. Perhaps if people weren't so concerned about making money, they could take the cue from the Free Software Foundation and provide the information for free, like it is supposed to be. Dump the ads and quit bitching, pal, this isn't your business playground.
And if those hits are diluting the value of the advertiser's ads, the revenue per hit will go negative.
Reasonable enough to me.
Then Google cache by definition is a "rip" lets all sue google.
"There should be more legislation in place to protect copyright interests."
This is, without a doubt, the last thing I'd ever expect to read on Slashdot!
In all seriousness, sorry to hear your story. Copyright violation is all fun and good when it happens to somebody else, and we can often fool ourselves into thinking that we're actually doing somebody a favor by copying somebody else's work against their will (the "by ripping this CD and putting it in my share directory I am actually giving them free advertising and somebody might go to their concert as a result of downloading it from Kazaa in lieu of buying the CD" argument). But as you've shown, it can mightily suck when it happens to you.
Sitting in my day care, the art is decopainted.
EVER heard of "not guilty until proven otherwise"!?!?!?
If we start slashdotting evry site that is not correct to... us... it's kinda ovbious to me that we'll be doing not only something that is plain wrong but also that is plain illegal.
--krahd
mod me up scottie!
Well, since google just passes on the info, its not.
A rip is when you steal the layout and/or info and call it you own.
Google cache is a service, not theft.
The system had the verbosity of HTML combined with all the readability of compiled assembly viewed as bitmap images
> The important thing is that all of these arguments can be applied to the case of this Taiwanese site.
Not correct. None of the arguments apply to plagiarism, which is the claiming of someone else's ideas as your own. Duplicating an MP3 and claiming that you made it yourself would be a good comparison to this case. The problem is not that the Taiwanese site simply copied the data, but they are misrepresenting it on an ongoing basis as their own work. That dances dangerously close to identity theft, especially if the Taiwanese site is using the fraud to capture ad revenue or using your reputation to garner faith (like convincing someone to give them a credit card number because they think it's you). In the case of a stolen Metallica MP3, it's rather unlikely that someone stealing the MP3 will try to present themselves as Metallica.
Virg
Nobody's suggesting "we" do it to all sites "we" find "not correct." (Who the hell is "we," anyway?)
Just this particular set of bastards who have VERY CLEARLY stolen content from at least two sources who DID NOT give them permission to do it -- RTFA.
And I say fire away. It's obvious these folks are intent on screwing legitimate sites. Why else would they take down their illegal mirror of CarEnthusiast and replace it IMMEDIATELY with an illegal mirror of the Finger Lakes Region SCCA chapter's site? If you or anyone else can think of a legitimate reason for that behaviour, I'm all ears...
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In Korea, long hair is for old people!
You're not getting it at all. What I'm saying has nothing to do with the thieves, it's all about not doing justice for yourself. Perhaps you're right here, they are thieves. Or perhaps not, and the article (which I read, btw) is plain wrong, how do you know?
/. that you had ripped my site.
Even if they are thieves, you cannot judge them and punish them, this is not (or at least, this should be not) a neo far west.
--krahd
p.d. perhaps you still not getting it: just imagine I report to
mod me up scottie!
Now folks seem to be arguing just the opposite. Please explain.
-- I speak only for myself
If carorcar is doing this to make money via adverts and the wronged site owners can not get satisfaction from carorcar, why not put pressure on the people paying or supporting carorcar (e.g. websponsors)?
Add "-C off" to turn cache off, and while you are at it you can also add "-D www.carorcar.com" so you don't follow any links back to the offical site without knowing.