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Life After the Video Game Crash

codecasting writes "There's an interesting, very satirical story over at David Wong's Pointless Waste of Time where he makes a good case for the upcoming death of the video game industry. His key points include gaming platforms largely reaching a technological plateau, the aging of the 'Original Gamers' audience, and the slew of games that are just copies of the same game from last year, but with a new title and different cars/guns/bikinis/etc. An interesting and humorous read."

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  1. Agreed. by Zone-MR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I tend to agree. A good game has much more to it than highly realistic 3d videos. Historically the games which have been most successful were the ones with a simple, yet addictive concept. It didn't matter that they were designed for a 8 bit 2MHz proccessor with a black and white low-res display.

    Recently there has been almost no inovation whatsoever. Every new game which comes out belongs to an already existing category (strategy, 3d fps, simulation, etc), with the only difference between them being slightly modified sprites.

    The way I see it, the future probably will lie in Massive-multiplayer. As residential connections get faster, and protocols are improved to cope with lag better, it might be possible to design games where hundreds of thousands of players compete in real time in one virtual environment. That would be awesome.

    1. Re:Agreed. by clandaith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two comments:

      1) How you describe video games as beeing the same can also be applied to movies. The same "stories" are done over and over. The characters, places,... are all that changes. Will the movie industry ever be complete wiped out?

      2) If all the games go massive multiplayer, won't those themes also be come standard and people will complain about seeing the new games all before, just with different places, guns, bikinis?

    2. Re:Agreed. by travdaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As residential connections get faster, and protocols are improved to cope with lag better, it might be possible to design games where hundreds of thousands of players compete in real time in one virtual environment.

      Yeah well, I'm still on dial-up and so are a lot of other people. So don't hold your breath. Granted, any innovations (hardware or software) are going to make video games more popular. And this article is trying to say that "Everything in video games has already been invented" and that's obviously wrong.

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    3. Re:Agreed. by myowntrueself · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "The way I see it, the future probably will lie in Massive-multiplayer."

      Thats ok if you just want the choice between;

      A) Waiting for a bunch of griefers to come along and fuck your game up

      and;

      B) Joining a bunch of griefers and going around fucking other peoples games up.

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    4. Re:Agreed. by saiha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the reason is that there are still a lot of people that a led on by pure graphics quality. Look at any of the newer first person shooting games, the same basic gameplay, only a few innovations. I still play Q3 because it has good gameplay, many mods and a fairly easy way for me to make my own mods. I'll boot up FF7 or s/nes rpgs over most of the newer ones.

      As for GTA though I feel that that is one of the few games that had a new style of gaming. I played that all the time until my PS2 was stolen :(

      We are at the point in gaming however that the graphics are excellent and the computing power can and should be put toward more gameplay things like AI, advanced plot devices etc. Graphics get old fo me pretty quickly, but solid gameplay with open ended gameplay is what keeps me away from my homework and in from of my computer or tv.

    5. Re:Agreed. by Wind_Walker · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Recently there has been almost no inovation whatsoever

      You're not playing the right games. The Sims introduced a whole new idea to gaming, and in the process introduced a whole new market. Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles on the Gamecube introduced the idea of using 4 GBAs as "inventory" screens, while also controlling the game on the TV. I challenge you to put Pikmin into a category. I challenge you to put Cubivore into a category. I challenge you to put Animal Crossing into a category.

      You're just not playing the right games. If you want innovation, choose Nintendo.

    6. Re:Agreed. by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a theory in English that only 6-8 plots exist. All stories are some combination of those plots. Every book, movie, play, etc ever written. And you know, the theory is pretty much dead on. YOu can argue the number of plots slightly, but books have been repeating the same themes for millenia. Yet I just spent another $200 at Barnes and Noble last week.

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  2. No way by JavaLord · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The lack of innovation has come from the fact that video games have become a big business in the past 20 years. You can make the same argument that movies are the same way. Video games will continue to grow as the first "Video game generation" gets older. Think about it, most players now are 30-35 or younger...What will the market be like when these people are 80, and everyone plays games?

    The Market is growing, not shrinking. Games are becoming more mainstream, which leads companies to produce "safer" tried and true games. Don't worry, there will still be innovation but there will also be more and more "safe" games as video games grow as a real business.

    1. Re:No way by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Know what? There are plenty of innovative, well planned and well executed games out there. Games keep getting better and better. The problem is, audiences expect more and more.

      Back in 1982 it was easy to impress people with a blue square shooting red dots at a green square.

      Games aren't becoming "safer", and the medium isnt dying.

      People have been saying the same shit about movies, every movie has been made, theres no more innovation to do! Well, sure, there are a lot of crappy movies being made, but a handful of standout ones.

      Which is the way it is with media/artform. Music, books, TV, movies, and video games.

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  3. Underestimating creativity by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The author makes some really dead-on points, and it's plenty enough to make investors in Nintendo shares shake in their boots.

    But I think he's badly underestimating the creativity of the companies that do survive -- whoever they happen to be.

    Take board games as an example. How many ways can you move a playing piece from point A to point B? Isn't Life just the same as Monopoly, which is no different from Trivial Pursuit, which is an obvious ripoff of Chutes and Ladders?

    You get the idea. Those four games hugely different variations on the same "platform" -- a flat piece of cardboard. What's more, they're still around after decades. Monopoly keeps coming out with special editions that are no more than "different cars" in GTA-LXXVI -- but they still sell.

    And a stroll down Toys-R-Profit's game aisle shows a dizzying variety of board games. Many of them are lame variations on the theme (roll 1d6 to see if Barbie gets a good parking space at the mall) and won't last a year. But while they're around, someone will buy them, and next year we'll have another lame variant.

    What's sad is that we're seeing the end of the beginning. We 30-somethings watched video games go from homebuilt to primitive to amazing... to commodity. I expect the children of the 1860s experienced the same thing with board games.

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  4. A bit of a rant, but some observations by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Video game industry the new Hollywood
    Remember the first video game to gross $1 billion? NBA Jam, before it even made it into the home. This was after one of the prior 'crashes' in the home market. We all got burned out on Atari 2600/C64/Apple][ games and headed back to the arcade.

    The video game industry may or may not be putting the player into the 'movie', but does it have to? My most feverish moments of gaming usually involved a text CLI interface. Some used a joy stick. The game is what you make it, IMHO.

    The game industry will grow. It's just waiting for the next big thing, which may actually be some old thing redone to be fresh or just captures the imagination of players. The failings of the game industry isn't so much the tired old games redone, it's simply the lull between the peaks. There will be another peak, and another and another... as he said, Something truly new and different and novel, dammit. The market is ripe for it.

    It always will be. In the meantime, I continue to play treasures from the past.

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  5. Repetition is demise? by 1029 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really now, if the same old idea just rehashed over and over (but most likely with slight variations) were a problem in the entertainment creation market, then books/music/art would have stopped being made sometime around, oh, 1000 years ago.

    Everything worth expressing has already been expressed. That doesn't mean we can't enjoy the new incarnations. Society changes, things move out of favor, then back in again. At which point old ideas get rehashed and become popular once again. I don't think the gaming industry is in any danger of flopping, in fact I'll bet its only going to become a more and more pervasive part of world culture.

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  6. Pretty funny by andih8u · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One day you have an article about how television is dying because of video games; now apparently video games are dying. Are they going to be replaced by people sitting around talking to each other? I don't buy it.

    Personally, though, I think that console games will probably take over from PC games. It must be a lot easier for developers to not have to try making everything compatible with all of the various pc hardware components.

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    1. Re:Pretty funny by Jerf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder if these aren't more echos of pre-Crash 1990's thinking. "If it's not growing exponentially, it must be dying." Well, given that any subset of the human population (including the population as a whole) is only growing geometrically, for any given industry like Video Games there are only so many customers to be tapped and you will eventually top out.

      This is the only explanation I can think of, persistently viewing everything in extreme terms of "total success or total failure", and since nothing ever hits "total success"... well, I guess it's dying. Video games aren't exponentially growing, they're dying. TV is losing ground instead of holding constant, it's dying. Our economy isn't exponentially growing, it's dying. Anti-drug programs aren't 100% effective, thus they are useless. Crime isn't zero, therefore all anti-crime measures are totally ineffective and all hell will soon break loose. (Extends beyond entertainment too, you see.)

      This is the normal state of affairs, though; exponential growth is unsustainable; the tech industry growth, and more specifically the continuing success of Moore's Law, are the exceptions, not the rule. Perhaps if we didn't have such unrealistic expectations, or perhaps more accurately if our sick, diseased journalistic process didn't have such unrealistic expectations, we wouldn't feel the need to panic so often.

    2. Re:Pretty funny by DamnRogue · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen. The "growth = life" philosophy is one I see echoed repeatedly in the business world. A book passed around my office recently espoused the idea that if you couldn't grow revenues at >10% per year you had best get out of business. This is quite possibly the the most pervasively misleading attitude I've come across.

      It is a fact of life that you can't grow forever (faster than the economy, anyway). Do the math yourself. How many consecutive years can you grow at 15%, starting with a 20% market share? 11, before you absorb the entire market. It's at this point that your average CEO will try to branch out into new products and new lines of business that the company has no experience in, as often as not failing and destroying enormous sums of capital. The correct answer is to stick with what you're good at, churn out cash, and return it to your shareholders. There are plenty of people who get quietly rich in "stagnant" industries.

      After all, if it weren't for static industries we wouldn't have food, clothes, paper, etc, etc.

    3. Re:Pretty funny by Jerf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why don't you explain to the shareholders this philosophy of yours,

      You misunderstand. "Eternal exponential growth is impossible, you will eventually top out and be limited to the growth of the external economy" isn't a "philosophy", it's a fact. It doesn't matter what the shareholders think.

      The only way around this is to engage in a form of the Broken Window fallacy and continuously burn down the successful companies for the sole purpose of allowing other companies to exponentially grow, which has the same basic issues as the Broken Window Fallacy.

      If the shareholders don't understand reality, it's their own damned problem. It won't change the ultimate outcomes.

  7. Video Game Crash by Liselle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No kidding. I get the distinct impression, after reading this article, that the author likes to hear himself talk. I understand the points he raises, and even agree with a couple of them (online gaming is a niche market with respects to consoles), but I think the conclusions are way out in left field.

    The XBOX and the Gamecube were failures? The graphical upgrades between consoles is getting narrower to the casual observer, so the game industry is going to take a nose dive? Instead of, say, the more reasonable outcome: they change to fit the new environment? We're not talking about the slow-to-move Recording Industry here, the videogame industry is in its infancy in comparison.

    TFA looks more like an excuse to come up with some creative insults, and play with pictures in an attempt to be humorous. The arguments remind me of conversations I heard at lunch in junior high!

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  8. Good stuff by Geccoman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the article:

    Luke's X-Wing approaches the surface of the Death Star.

    "Red Five, begin your attack run."

    Luke swoops down into the trench. "It'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back ho-"

    Turret laser bolts tear his X-Wing apart.


    So true, how many times do you have to die a horrible death to finally get all the way through a game that was supposed to make you feel like a hero, but instead ensures that you never leave your cushy chair, your cold pizza, or your virginity.

    I find that games only requiring a short period of time to throughly enjoy are my favorite. UT2004 is a blast in Onslaught mode (everyone should know this by now) and I can play with my brothers across the country. And a few good matches takes less than an hour of my life.

    I like to play Simpsons Hit & Run with my wife when we want to just relax for an hour or so on a rainy day.

    But I probably will not be willing to ever fork over the bucks that some of the upcoming all-in-one gaming/movie/theater systems are going to cost. I'll just get a cheapo PS2 and some decent games. I don't want gaming to be my life.

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  9. Re:nothing's the same anymore by FePe · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I feel the same way although I'm not that old. I first was introduced to computers when I was around eight years old (at the time of the Commodore 64, Amiga 500 and so on). You couldn't help being endlesly fascinated by all the small dots all over the screen. And you actually controlled the dots!

    Today even the smallest children doesn't seem to be so fascinated by computer games. They have seen it all before, and they are used to the high quality so they demand so much more.

    I miss the Commodore 64...

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  10. Uh, no by MisterFancypants · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Article should be entitled "They don't make games I like anymore", because that is his real argument. Just because there are lots of rehash games released doesn't mean anything about the state of the business -- all economic signs point to the game industry getting bigger and bigger and making even more money as it lures an ever-widening mainstream audience away from TV and movies.

    And his argument about the original game generation getting older? Man, that's just moronic, IMO. Someone may want to let this guy know that people are still having kids, these kids are still growing up, and --- guess what? playing video games. Not only that, but more are playing these days than ever before, especially as gaming is no longer seen as a lonely geek thing with all the associated stigma of that.

    I do agree with certain aspects of his article, but we all have to remember that we were blessed to live through the birth stages of videogaming. Of *course* after that period of rapid change things are going to solidify and we're going to end up with less pure innovation -- this happens in every industry and even in every creative medium. But that doesn't mean new ideas and new technologies wont burst through every now and then to revitalize things... That's just the normal cycle of how these things work, get used to it....

  11. Ehhhh maybe by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I would not be terribly suprised by another minicrash, but I think video gaming is not going to go anywhere.

    1. The technological plateau he speaks of is merely a graphical one, and it only seems like a plateau because new game consoles don't come out every month.

    There's also the consideration that there are many places for the technology to expand. GTA3, despite what one may think about its gamesplay, hints at what is possible. Maybe the graphics won't improve much, but the world will get bigger and more detailed. The fascination of GTA3 for me was the ability to just wander around, down alleyways that had nothing to do with the missions and find stairways to rooftops, trash bins- all sorts of real world details. Lots of the world reacted to your actions. That's a neat thing. When your video game is an entertaining toy outside of the core gameplay, you've really accomplished something.

    There's more to games than polygon count. Most of the game worlds, even the likes of Halo, are still fairly primitive compared to what could be done with ever more processing power. The end of graphical improvement might be a GOOD thing, and force developers to focus on gameplay, computer character AI, and other things that are a bit lacking these days.

    2. He didn't really seem to have an argument in this section. ??? His view of the types of enjoyment derived from video games is a bit limited.

    3. His horizon is limited. The video games may (or may not) be reaching upwards of 90% penetration into the current market, but the *market* is exapanding. Technological civilization is creeping into parts of the world not yet elevated to such.

    He also seems to oddly forget that new generations are being born, and *everything* is new and novel to them.

    4. Are the Gamecube and X-Box really complete failures? They've all sold millions of units. They didn't sell as well because [A] the PS2 got there first and [B] not as many good games. The X-Box especially only had maybe two decent titles for a long time.

    As for age, he's entitled to his opinion, but I play games in my late 30's. I know people in their 40's and 50's who regularly play PS2 games and PC games. To use his belabored Hollywood comparison, most people seem to realize that, just as there are movies for children and adults, there are also video games for children and adults.

    5. He might be right here. I already have home theater stuff. I want a game console to play games. I don't need a jack of all trades, master of none. That's why I expect a minicrash when these All In One systems fail to sell.

    6. Agreed on the online play. I know Final Fantasy *fanatics* who have zero desire in FF11 Online. The reaction is usually, "Wait, I bought a game and I have to keep paying every month?"

    7. was just a rehash.

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  12. The Facts by felonious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That entire article is onlt one man's opinion and not the absolute truth. Everyone is different hence you cannot predict what people want and/or will want in the future. Trust me many have tried on numerous topics and failed miserably.

    Gaming has a long past and even brighter future regardless if gameplay isn't massively different in the future. A game is about passing time, escaping, a hobby, and plain ole fun.

    There are millions of games out there for all types of preferences and all types of attention spans. There is something for everyone. Even though there seems to be a lack of original content in the last few years there has been an advancement in gameplay. More interactivity (HL2 environments), a move towards team based play and operating vehicles (CoD, BF 1942, UT2k4), and this is just in FPS's. MM's are also evolving into more of a FP view with much more depth not including SW Galaxies.

    Things don't evolve overnight and some people just like to whine about the current state of affairs but I see it simply evolving at a slower pace because there's a lot more companies making games these days and orginality is harder to come by.

    FYI- the author stated that people these days don't play the recent older games and I disagree. There's plenty of Q1, Q2, HL players out there. They are still creating new content (maps, models, etc.) so those scenes are still alive although not as large as they used to be.

    The last thing I'll say is I totally disagree about once you're over 35 you can't game because you're a loser or manchild or somthing along those lines. I was on a blizzard board a while back and some guy stated that he thought most gamers are in the 15-20 year old range. Gamers came out of the woodwork to tell their age and why they game. The average gamer was over 40 and the oldest was 72!
    Don't let people who do no research and simply speculate convince you of something that is completely untrue.

    Gaming is here to stay even if games stopped evolving from this day on.

    It's simply a part of our lives...

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  13. Not age, longevity. by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not your age that's the problem. It's how long you've been playing video games. The first games you play tend to be the ones you remember as being the best because you were just starting out in computer games and everything is still new and novel.

    Here's a few old-school examples:
    When I started in games id Software's Wolfenstein 3D was in full stride and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Then came DOOM. For me DOOM was one of the best games ever made, with Wolf3D being among the other top ten contenders.

    A year or so later ROTT came out. Technically it was somewhere between Wolf3D and DOOM and a LOT of people who were just getting into gaming thought it was the best thing around. I thought it was crap (and I still do). Was it crap? Objectively, no. Subjectively? For me it was.

    Nothing in the FPS world interested me much until Quake 1 came out and we all got real 3D. Since Quake 1 it's mostly been refinements and prettier environs. Nothing has wow'd me like Quake 1 except for Half-Life and that wasn't because of the graphics.

    Are these new FPS games (and I use these example because these are what I play) not well done? Are they bilge? Do they suck? Some do, but many are very well made games. They just don't dazzle me anymore because I've been there and seen that. Now there are just more colors and rounder asses on the women.

    It's very hard to recapture the wonder you felt when you first started playing games.

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  14. My analysis by Bendebecker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "You see, there was a video game industry apocalypse once before, in the early 80's. The market was flushed down the toilet by a putrid swirl of bad Atari games, players realizing that Hot Dog Maze was just Pac-Man with different colors. They didn't abandon the Atari 2600 in favor of something better. They abandoned it in favor of not playing video games."

    And yet the players still swamped the arcades - something the president of Nintendo realized before releasing his NES onto the American market. The problem with the Atari was not that all the games stagnated. There was still innovation, even in the 1983-1984. The problem was cartridge glut. No one could find those great games under the mounds of useless trash. Everyone could make games for the Atari and everyone did - even ppl who had no right making video games (Colgate anyone?). That is one of the reasons why the magazine Nintendo Power and the Nintendo License was so mind-boggingly important. It was an assurance of quality. Now we have the Internet. You are truely gutsy for buying games now without looking for reviews first. We have a similiar environment to 1983 now, but the difference is we can tell what is good/crap. As such, his analogy to the 80's fails. Just becuase we are mired knee deep in trash doesn't mean we will see a similiar crash.

    On a greater note, there is just something about video games that keep pulling people back. I still go back and play Mario 3. I still spend hours on end sometimes playing Keystone Kapers and Laser Blast. It is more than just the novelty that draws people to games. It is more than just something to do. It is an experience that transcends your current reality. As the author said, it allows you to be Luke Skywalker - but just becuase you don't want to permantely be Luke Skywalker does not mean that no one will ever replay the game. The games keep bringing people back. While I agree with him that in fact the market for 'Buy this game cause we have modeled dust particles' is going to die, the whole market won't. Games that are good and inventive will still survive. A lot of companies will drop out, no doubt. But the ones like Nintendo that can still be inventive with gameplay and still bring about a great experience will still go on.

    As for the movie analysis, there is a difference he hasn't taken into account. The Internet. Not only can we have games that involve ppl in stories but we have games that can involve people in stories with their friends. When you add the fact that not only you but your friend can play, the possibilities grow exponentially larger. Look at WoW and Everquest. They may not even be games anymore. Rather they are environments the user can interact in. You don't get the same with a movie. With a movie you are forcefed the producers/directors vision of what he wants you to see. With games you get a choice. You get to skip shit you don't like and focus on stuff you do like. And with the birth of the Internet, those choices will multiple with future games, not decline. And the 'online gmers' he talks about are by far a minority in my experience. I know a lot of people that play games online just for fun and not becuase they have a need to boost their self esteem by zerg rushing noobs. In addition, with improving AI's we also are losing the predicatble games. The Future? In one game, the opponent may be down a hall, in another he may have moved a different direction. We are quickly moving away from bound points and set patrol paths. In the future, you will be attacking units of enemies, not just pre defined defenses. Take a look at the plans for Thief 3 if you don't believe me.

    In additon, if his analogy was true, we would have never watched movies as long as we have. Afterall, there are only so many romances you can watch, only so many war movies right. The novely of seeing them on the screen should have worn off and left us all back with our books. So why hasn't it? Hollywood and books gives us experiences that are different and hence they both can exist together. T

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  15. Three Points. by Dukeofshadows · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the author makes a good point that point-and-shoot gameswill only go so far, I think he misses three key points:

    1) We're starting to see more and more action games merge with elements of role-playing games. I thought that GTA: Vice City was really moving in this direction, where instead of physically growing stronger you get more influence and wealth to do whatever you want but you can take it in whatever order you want. Granted, there are several aspects of RPG that could be incorporated into that game if someone felt like it (control your own fate, have some kind of karma scale that causes people to react differently towards you, etc.), but expect to see many more games incorporating both these aspects in the coming years. Some of these will be retreads of VC or any number of already existant games (note similarities between Fallout: BOS and Dark Alliance 2 for Xbox) but others will forge new frontiers (Crimson Skies?).

    2) Online gameplying is *burgeoning*. My brother plays Star Wars: Galaxies almost every other day and has two characters. He knows people from around the world just by playing with them and interacting digitally. Look at Final Fantasy XI and the huge number of Japanese and American players on it: the companies involved get $(X)/month without having to do much more than upgrade the system and its option every so often. I predict that this will turn into a mainstay of the video game market, especially for the true RPG fans.

    3) Like it or not, the advanced military projects of VR and newer man-machine integration systems will eventually become incorporated into video game systems and maybe even the Internet. Imagine video games in a 3-D setting either by VR or "plug-and-play" a la Matrix from Shadowrun. Predicting where technology will go is tricky, but developments in holograph technology and other *exotic* computer applications are already being worked on. Maybe we've hit a temporary plateau, but that doesn't mean it is permanent by any means. How long is it before we could see a quantum processor running a fully interactive video game system with either Resident Evil 13 (where you can feel the zombies attack you and maybe play as one yourself?) or Grand Theft Auto: 7.0 in the city of your choice with fully accurate maps. The possibilities for technological advancement are endless and should not be automatically discounted just because things have "slowed down" in the last few years.

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  16. The New Generation by moebius206 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps its a need to defend my love of gaming, but that article was mostly bullshit. Most of time I was reading it, I couldn't tell if it was a joke or not. I hope it was.

    I won't waste time arguing about how games are repeating their formulas, which you've all mentioned already that Hollywood does the same; that like Hollywood, games will simply refine and re-tell. I won't waste a good rant on how fucked up an argument could be that gaming, indeed technology, has reached a graphical plateau.

    There is one good point, however: the aging First Generation and the New Generation.

    Someone earlier mentioned that most of the First Generation, defined by me as anyone who *remembers* when the NES was rolled out (or any earlier console), are getting on with their lives, getting married, having children, and basically getting weighed down with other responsiblities. I'm 25, consider myself a First Gen Gamer (my first 'console' was a TI-99/4A, with speech synth!!), married, have a baby boy, a house, a career, and the other crap. Gaming these days isn't like it used to be. Along with that, I find myself drawn to only the best of the best of games. I don't have time or money to buy and sift through the crap games from the greats.

    Personally, I think its the switch to the New Generation of gamers thats gonna be the problem, not the industry itself. Most of us First Gens gaming will slow to a crawl, and the New Gens will be the ones screaming to the developers as to what they want. Most of the New Gens aren't as wowed by ever-increasing technology as us First Gens are. For us, the novelty is still there while the New Gens mostly expect it.

    The industry isn't going to know how to deal with the New Gens at first. They're a completely different breed. And us First Gens are only gonna slow in our gaming (tho we may not necessarily slow down in the purchasing of them :).

    Then again, the switch could be seamless. Who knows.

    Just watch Japan. If it happens in the game industry, it will happen there first.