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MPAA Puts Words in Mouth of CA Attorney General

An anonymous reader writes "In another example of Microsoft Word meta data coming back to bite you, Wired News reports that a document circulated by the California Attorney General to fellow lawmakers supporting new restrictions on P2P software was actually authored by a senior vice president of the Motion Picture Association of America."

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  1. Woah by neoform · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean government officials are just puppets to large corporations?!

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    1. Re:Woah by EinarH · · Score: 5, Interesting
      You know the scary thing about this is not that gov. officials are just puppets to large corps. Every american with a working brain knows that.
      The scary thing is that it's so common that many people find it to be completely normal.

      Like a recipent told me; "It's not corruption when we call it campaign contributon"

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  2. Cynical by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So I'm not surprised by this. It's been happening for a long time - his pockets (and the pockets of many others) are probably lined with MPAA/RIAA green.

    1. Re:Cynical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Something I found on Raymon Chen's weblog.

      "A Georgia State University study shows that U.S. senators have an uncanny knack for picking stocks that outpace the overall market. Professor Alan Ziobrowski's analysis of senators' financial disclosure data found that over a period of six years, the lawmakers outperformed the market by 12 percent."

      Link to npr (I realise this is possibly not the favoured radio station round here...)

      http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=175 11 62

  3. This is why... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    metadata is a good thing, as long as it is accurate and useful. Go Metadata!

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    1. Re:This is why... by anachattak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think somebody needs to write an open letter to Microsoft, thanking them for including metadata in Word docs. This simple feature has revealed more inept backroom deals than a hundred crack investigative reporters. My hat's off to the Bill "The Great Satan" Gates and his minions!!! Keep up the mediocre work, guys!!!

  4. nice, puppeteers... by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

    "But we remain concerned about the potential dangers posed to the public by peer-to-peer file-sharing technology."

    Oh thank you! I am so glad that a piece of software for sharing innocous content is being watched by out government so that I am not harmed in any way by the pure evil contained inside.

    If P2P software can be used to violate law, the argument goes, its makers should be obligated to incorporate a warning on the product or face liability for deceptive trade practices.

    Yes, because we all know that hammers, cars, broken beer bottles, rolls of duct tape, and pieces of rope all incorporate these warnings...

    We view with grave concern reports that at least some P2P software developers may be adding features deliberately designed to hinder law enforcement in its prosecution of crimes using P2P software.

    Awww, I view with grave concern the fact that the MPAA is paying off government officials so that they can control their market by influencing, greatly in their favor, the laws that are passed and excuted upon everyday citizens.

    Whether it is the widespread availability of pornography, including child pornography, the disclosure of sensitive personal information to millions of people, the exposure to pernicious computer worms and viruses, or the threat of legal liability for copyright infringement, P2P file-sharing software has proven costly and dangerous for many consumers.

    This is my favorite. Widespread panic techniques. Mention that it has child porn abilities! The exposure to viruses is the OS' and the users' fault not P2P software.

    God, what a bunch of trash. Glad that we have these people in office so that others can use them as puppets.

    1. Re:nice, puppeteers... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The problem with all of this is that it's so hard to determine who's the good guy in it. It's like watching a bad western with only black hats in it.

      On one side, you have the kids that are freely breaking copyright laws left and right because they want to watch a movie or listen to a song but for whatever moronic reason don't feel they should have to compensate anyone for it (to the dolts that will undoubtedly say "but it costs too much, they're just ripping us off.. waahh waahh.. let me suck my thumb like a little baby" - deal with it. It's called making an informed decision. If you don't think it's a value purchase, don't make the purchase. Doesn't mean you can just rip off a copy for yourself without compensating anyone).

      On the other side, you have these assmunching wonders who are penning laws and signing the dotted line with the names of public officials. WTF?

      Sigh... if you need me, I'll be working on my rocket ship to Mars. The rest of you bozos can fight it out amongst yourselves. There's no "good fight" here to join...

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  5. Corporate Policymaking by schmidt349 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This new governmental policy of letting the corporations dictate public policy has just got to stop. America is being overrun by special interest politics, and with so many politicians with their hands in the cookie jar, the MPAA and related organizations essentially have a free hand in drafting legislation, policy notes, you name it.

    I'd be very interested to know whether this Attorney General received campaign "contributions" from the MPAA, and how much. What do you have to pay to buy an Attorney General these days? $10,000? $50,000? I hate that everyone has their price, but what really makes me sad is how low that price is sometimes...

    1. Re:Corporate Policymaking by IAmTheDave · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has GOT to be illegal. Right? RIGHT? The simple fact that a corporation had any insight into political draft documents and help write them shows intense political and corporate based motivation for law.

      Lobbyists are one thing. Talking in someone's ear, buying them lunch, being recieved by a politician to discuss your views and desires. But to have actual direct input into policy making as the VP of a for-profit organization must be illegal and if it is not should be made so immediately.

      This makes me nothing short of sick, SICK. And it has nothing to do with P2P, it has everything to do with for-profit agencies running the government. I mean damn, if the MPAA and RIAA are allowed to write policy and law, it will soon become government "against the people."

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    2. Re:Corporate Policymaking by frankie · · Score: 5, Informative
      But to have actual direct input into policy making as the VP of a for-profit organization must be illegal and if it is not should be made so immediately.

      Not illegal. Not even close. In fact, there are many currently-standing laws that are:

      1. written entirely by private organizations
      2. copyrighted by those organizations, with a limited license granted to the government for enforcement purposes
      3. if you want to read the frickin law you must buy a copy from the private company
      And for the grand finale: any other person who makes copies of these laws available to the public is prosecuted for copyright violation! Note that the this case was appealed to the US Supreme Court, but they refused to hear it.

      The law of the land is: you don't talk about the law of the land.

  6. How can I too read this meta-data? by trp642 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use the Antiword!

  7. Democracy by gid13 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Power is transferring from the state (the general state, not just California) to corporations. If this continues, companies will rule. This is perhaps the ultimate downfall of democracy, and the end point of capitalism.

    It gave me an interesting idea, though. If this situation actually happens, or even if it doesn't, imagine a company run as a democracy. Regular elections for CEO (of course there would have to be some accountability rules so they don't milk it for personal gain before stepping down, but that'a already a problem anyway). I can imagine workers for such a company being more motivated, and certainly more financially healthy since the massive salaries at the top would essentially be spread around.

    1. Re:Democracy by perly-king-69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now, what was it Mussolini said about Fascism being about the merging of the State and Corporation?
      Welcome to the future.

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    2. Re:Democracy by hal9000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, the untruncated quote is:

      The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and Corporate power.

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  8. Re:Stupid Bush! by Ryvar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While a staunch anybody-but-Bush voting liberal, even I have to confess that rank corruption in the realm of intellectual property legislation is universal - the voting record declares authoritatively that both Democrats and Republicans alike have, on this issue at least, sold out to special interests with fervor and abandon.

  9. How many times do I have to say this by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Save as .RTF, people! The .DOC format is poison for sensitive business documents! In addition, the .RTF format is far more portable.

    Ah, who cares. I'll continue to reap rewards from vendors and lawyers who send .DOC files.

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  10. Not surprising.... by anachattak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering the MPAA's activity in Tennessee this year. The MPAA is a super-powered lobbying machine, fueled by your movie theater ticket and DVD sales. We initially gave them the power to protect their products, which has been increasingly leveraged by turning consumer dollars into political "donations", which in turn allows them to increase the duration of their copyrights, ad infinitum.

  11. Re:Finally P2P restrictions from the right place.. by MoneyT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However, if you kept reading your law book, you could have found that the 14th (IIRC) amendment has been established by the courts to extend the restrictions placed on the government in the bill of rights to the states as well.

    IOW, California has no right to do this either.

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  12. This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by turnstyle · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Even though every time this comes up, it's always cast as "freedom" vs. Great Satan, it's more complicated than that.

    Independents like me are also protected by copyright.

    But note: if the goal is to "legitimize" p2p so that artists get paid, how would you do it?

    Would you add a new Internet tax that everybody should pay?

    Would you add new monitoring software so that an agency can track what people are doing on the net?

    Would it actually be any more helpful to independents?

    Do you think that everybody whose income depends on their ability to sell their own copyrighted work should just have to find another job?

    These are the real questions...

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    1. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by zephyr1256 · · Score: 5, Informative

      But note: if the goal is to "legitimize" p2p so that artists get paid, how would you do it? The EFF has come up with a solution called Voluntary Collective Licensing that would allow artists to be paid for filesharing that is going to occur anyway.

    2. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The worst thing is to put a blanket tax on a particular medium to the advantage of one or a few groups of people.

      I don't download music, why should I be punished? My company doesn't burn music CDs, we archive our projects and data on CD and DVD, why should they have to pay the RIAA tax? My CD burner at home is used mostly for storing my digital pictures. Why should I pay the RIAA tax?

      I hate to say this, but there is ALWAYS going to be some sort of theft going on somewhere. People still steal CDs from retail stores, after all. The internet may have made it easier to break the law, but if they just made it easy to comply with the law, instead of punishing their would be customers, copyright infringement would drop.

      Apple and several other companies have already proven that given a reasonable and easy method to legally download music, people will do it. If those were real mp3s instead of a restricted format, I bet there'd be a LOT more people downloading. If there were a convenient method for me, I'd do it. I just haven't seen one that I think is worth it.

      So I don't buy. I also don't steal. I simply do without. I shouldn't have to pay a fine for using the internet.

      On the other hand, like the audio cassette and CD fine that I'm already forced to pay, I think it would legitize copyright infringement. After all, if I'm going to be punished one way or another, I might as well take advantage.

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    3. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But note: if the goal is to "legitimize" p2p so that artists get paid, how would you do it?

      I would do nothing, since the exchange of information between two individuals is already a legitimate practice.

      Of course, based on the hypothetical "solutions" you're suggesting, the real question you're looking to answer is "How do you maintain the viability of selling recordings?". If the people who stand to benefit from that can't figure it out, then let them go out of business. Performers can go back to making their money the way they have throughout the majority of human history: Live performances, and commissioned works. The best part about this? The money will be well spread amongst musicians instead of making a small few vastly wealthy and screwing everybody else. The idea of being able to create a recording and have it be an endless fountain of wealth with no more input of labor from the creator was broken anyway. Nobody deserves a free lunch.

    4. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Unfortunately, gropus like the EFF want you to keep thinking about this as no more than a struggle with an Evil Oligopoly

      Not true at all. Depending on who you talk to, the problem with the RIAA/MPAA isn't that they are trying to protect copyrights. The problems include:

      They are trying to hang on to an archaic business model and distribution system.

      They are trying to outlaw a better distribution system and technological progress.

      They are trying to maintain overinflated prices.

      They are using unethical tactics.

      Money they "win" does not go to the artists.

      Copyright law has been modified from its original intention to support maximizing corporate profits at the expense of public rights, progress, and costs.

      If you actually read the EFF position on these sorts of things, you'd see that they have sound arguments against the RIAA and MPAA.

    5. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      2) Start viewing live performances as your bread and butter and your only means of actually, you know, making money within the industry. If your style of music doesn't lend itself well to live performance (techno, etc.), come up with a different form of spectacle to keep the audience entertained - they want to pay you money to participate in an event, and you need provide that event.

      As you say, not everything lends itself to a live performance. But some things can only be done (and recorded) live.
      Should the London Philharmonic income be limited to only those who can actually attend the performance? Or some group such as Mannheim Steamroller? I don't really want to buy a t-shirt from them.

      Not everything lends itself to 'spectacle' or live performance.

    6. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      well then good.

      I have one simple question for you then. as a Fellow Indie film maker....

      why do you make films? I make them to be seen and I am honored when it is good enough to be "violated" and "stolen" by people on Kazaa. Hell my next large film to be soon released by the new film group I have joind/formed. will be available 100% free in a low-res form online. but still purchaseable for $9.99 online in DVD form.

      do I care if someone thinks my film is great enoguh to be copied (no I wont have any protection what-so-ever on the DVD) and distributed?

      nope, It's a gague that the film is a gigantic success, and I need to start submitting it heavily to festivals.

      Hollywood is acting out of greed not out of any noble intentions... and nobody should ever see anything that hollywood does as anything but suspect.

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    7. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by azaris · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If the goal is to "legitimize" p2p so that artists get paid, how would you do it?

      How about starting by turning the royalty system from a cashcow from the rich to an incentive to the working musician?

      Do Beatles^H^H^H^H^H^HMichael Jackson need any more money out of the Beatles recordings made in the sixties? Why are dusty recordings by dead people more valuable than new, innovative stuff recorded today? Why do artists have expectations of recording one album and living off the proceeds for 30 years when nobody else has that kind of realistic expectations about their own work?

      I'm not saying "old" means "bad", I have loads of albums and MP3's from the fifties and sixties, I'm saying that maybe more of the current compensation should go to people who are still alive and making their living out of music. The people who had one hit 20 years ago can frankly go find another job rather than expect to leech off the public forever.

      One idea: create a system that rewards musicians who allow live recordings of their performances to be distributed for free or for low cost.

    8. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Coding is selling their own copyrighted work

      Not necessarily. My job is to write code for use by my coworkers. I don't sell anything. In fact, I don't even hold the copyright to the code I've written: it's a "work for hire," so my employer holds the copyright. Neither I nor my employer sell this code, yet I manage to make a great deal of money doing this.

      I fail to see why artists can't adopt the same model: if you want to get paid for producing something, get someone to hire you to produce it.

    9. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by turnstyle · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "His point was that nobody but the record companies makes any significant money off selling CDs already, so is it really even a question of "ensuring the artist gets paid" in the first place. It's not a straw man. He's questioning the basic premise of the argument. The man asks "how will independents get paid", and he is asking "does anyone even make money selling CDs now?" "

      Here's the response:

      1) if the record companies are making money off CD sales, then money can be made of CD sales

      2) if the artists start to throw off the record industry and take control over their work, that could be their money instead of the record companies'

      3) in an effort to screw the record industry now, p2p disenfrachizes those CD sales

      4) that, in turn, disenfranchizes the hope of those same artists from reclaiming those CD sales

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    10. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by pclminion · · Score: 5, Interesting
      If new thechnology will kill the music INDUSTRY, then let it die, since it is obviously flawed. It's called a market economy, if nobody wants your stuff, your fucked. Laws are not going help.

      But your analogy is completely wrong. People do want the stuff.

      The real question is, can you get people to pay any amount at all for it, when there's a "free" option on the Internet?

      Listen to your own attitude. You sound like the type of person who does the absolute minimum to follow the polite rules of society but beyond that, fuck everyone else. I mean, look at this statement:

      Someone's current chosen profession and it's ability to feed them or their family should not dictate my personal freedoms.

      You mean, your freedom to use their copyrighted material without compensating them? Selfish attitudes such as yours are actually quite prevalent in the world (imagine that), and believe it or not, most musicians and movie makers are not going to stand on street corners and manifest their arts for free, to anyone who comes by, out of the kindness of their hearts.

      Your analogy was of new technology coming in and displacing the old. But the analogy is wrong, and it doesn't event make sense, because there is no "new music" coming in and replacing the "old music." What has happened is that technology has given us a way to very easily deny artists compensation for their work.

      The trick in the next century will be to provide people with a way to pay what they think is fair for artistic creations. Then we'll see if the majority of people are fundamentally greedy.

      Answer this, honestly: is the $10 price of a DVD so unfair, really? Do you really think you should be able to get it free just because there's a convenient technology available to do it? If $10 is too high, what would you pay?

      You fly back to "capitalism" as an excuse for your greedy attitude, yet you don't seem to realize that if you have a method whereby you can always acquire a product for free, you completely undermine the basis for the system, which is that buyers and sellers agree on a price through the action of supply and demand. You've artificially turned the "supply" dial to infinity, and it's wreaking havoc.

      (None of this is to say that music or other content isn't extremely overpriced, but making it impossible for artists to get any compensation whatsoever for their work is not the solution.)

    11. Re:This isn't just about RIAA/MPAA by glassesmonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Start viewing live performances as your bread and butter and your only means of actually, you know, making money within the industry.

      Do you know who controls most music venues? Do you know who owns the most radio markets and controls the playlists? Do you know who earns the majority of the money from your concert performances? The answer is Clear Channel.. and no that's not tin-foil goodness, that sadly is true.

      Corporate influence bought deregulation resulting from the Telecommunication Act of 1996 and the whole MPAA issue is probably small peanuts relative to Clear Channel's influence.

  13. Misleading summary by RyoSaeba · · Score: 5, Informative
    Summary is misleading:
    was actually authored
    but the article states:
    it was either drafted or reviewed by a senior vice president of the Motion Picture Association of America.
    (emphasis mine)
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  14. Tricksy word processors by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay I think I've almost got it. CTRL-C is cut. CTRL-V is paste. But which key is "file off the serial numbers"?

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  15. In other news... by frs_rbl · · Score: 5, Funny

    metadata in Bush memo shows it was written by his dog Spot

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  16. Say it with me by FictionPimp · · Score: 5, Funny
    Come on guys, Say it with me now

    PDF!

  17. Re:Stupid Bush! by Stoutlimb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's because when you get to choose only between the Republicans and the Democrats, in reality, you have no choice at all.

    It's about time Americans stopped calling themselves a democracy.

    .

  18. The Spirit of Steve Dallas lives on! by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This article's mention of product liability warnings reminds me of that Bloom County strip in the 80s where sleazy lawyer Steve Dallas is contemplating whom to sue after getting pummelled and hospitalized by Sean Penn's forehead.

    After explaining why he shouldn't sue Sean Penn ("juries love famous people, and he might return to beat up the plantiff"), or his wife, Madonna ("proving liability might be difficult, and she might return to beat up the plantiff"), or Opus the Penguin ("never, ever sue poor people"), he settles on suing the Nikolta Camera Corporation, a "huge, multinational corporation with gobs of liquid cash," on the grounds that they were "criminally negligent in not placing a warning sticker on their cameras that reads, 'serious injury may result from photographic psychopathic Hollywood hotheads.'"

    He then finishes up by waving a flag and declaring, "America, Land of the Lawsuit... God bless her!"

    I guess the P2P software companies are likewise criminally negligent in not warning people that their products could lead to some harm.

    Since there's no warning sticker on this spindle of blank CD-ROMs on my desk, I think I'll see how many of them I can shove down my throat.

    On the same subject, have you seen some of the warning stickers manufacturers DO put on their products? Can I get a reply with some examples? I'll start off by citing the sticker on the baby stoller that reads "Do not fold stroller with infant inside."

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  19. Isn't it amazing that the same legal arguments by reverendG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    are being studiously ignored in so many other ways?

    Let's take a look at guns, for example. REPLACE([Wired Article],'P2P software','assault rifles') and suddenly you've got the arguments for every single pro-gun-control group in the USA. Personally, I'm much more worried about the imminent public danger of a submachine gun than I am worried about the threat to public safety presented by Kazaa. Yet why is the state AG not addressing gun control instead of P2P?!

    If we wanted to pull this little idea out a little further, how about we apply it to speeding? Car companies sell us their cars by telling us how fast we can go! McDonalds only recently started cutting back on portion size, but I don't remember any state AGs railing against the public safety risk of a Big Mac.

    It's no surprise that our politicians are in the pockets of big corporations. When I talk to people about situations like this, they most often say, "business as usual," shrug, and turn away. Not enough of them get angry and vote. Our politicians are crooked because they are ALLOWED to be.

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  20. buying influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are people really surprised? I have to thank microsoft for the metadata feature. Without it, this particular push by MPAA would have slipped by with fewer people getting pissed. Businesses have been buying influence for a long time people. Get over it. Those who think this kind of isn't happening are living on mars. Just look at the fat tax cuts Bush gave the richest 10% of america. The rich will always try to screw us, unless we educate ourselves and make sure we don't let them. So far, it looks like the efforts of the rick to deprive the middle class is going swell. Public education is getting worse, jobs are going over-sea and business aren't hiring. Life is great, if you're rich. Otherwise, you have to keep bustin' your butt. People need to get out the vote and think for themselves. That means not buying into party lines and thinking critically for yourself.

  21. Micosoft's best technology of Word(TM?) by School_HK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think the most suitable term for describing the innovation by Microsoft Word is meta-data. It symbolizes the real freedom to non-word users like me, and fight against secrets that the public should know. From the case of SCO-Microsoft, to the case of P2P-sharing, this technology opens another world of computer usage of Microsoft Word. Who's benefit from it? Of course are the public.

    From another point of view, the usage of meta-data is serious, which means that if you don't want your words logged by anything, you should use plain text editor.

  22. Or, the lawyer is pirating MSWord? by dnorman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The alternative would be that the CA lawyer is just running a pirated copy of MSWord, which was obtained from sources in MPAA....

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  23. I don't care what the AG says by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a P2P software developer and distributor, we believe you have the ability and responsibility to better educate consumers about these known risks, and to design your software in a manner that minimizes the risks. We view with grave concern reports that at least some P2P software developers may be adding features deliberately designed to hinder law enforcement in its prosecution of crimes using P2P software. Companies that engage in such conduct, and fail to meet the important responsibilities referenced above, harm the interests of consumers in our States.

    Yes. God forbid we have anonymity or encryption.

    [shrug] Well, as I said earlier, I have no interest in following directives like these. Software can be developed privately and via anonymous access through Freenet if necessary. It'd be a pain in the ass, but I'm

    * Not interested in adding back doors to my work

    * Not interested in stopping work on problems of how to provide secure/nonabusable/anonymous P2P systems (yes, part of that is to benefit users concerned about law enforcement attention).

    If the AG wants to do something to go after people operating in legal gray area, he can go after people with radar detectors (speeding can, y'know, kill people, whereas a pirated song only means that a large company gets a small amount less money), or those committing corporate accounting hanky-panky, or any number of other more damaging actions. Admittedly, there aren't people with deep pockets and old-boy connections to the government trying to finance hunting people down (note: AG can also go after corrupt government officials, IMHO), but theoretically that AG was appointed to be the servant of the people, and as the House is demonstrating, popular support for the RIAA is awfully low.

  24. News at 10 by Odinson · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Wow this is a major scandal! I expect to watch it on the news tonight.

    Oh wait.. it's the same comapanies...

    Well at least I'll hear about on the radio...

    Oh wait those are the same companies too...

    Well at least they will discuss it in the next session of congress...

    Oh right I keep forgeting.....

  25. Normal business practice by NoSuchGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do you expect, that's normal business practice.

    It's called lobbying.

    Big companies talks to politican and tells him: "We know our business better than you.
    - P2P is bad for the public in gerneral and bad for my business.
    - Terrorist use P2P to coordinate their attacks.
    - P2P is used for distributing kiddie porn, P2P Software comes from shady sources.
    - These are bundeled with spyware and zombie bots to attack other websites.
    - What about $2000 I spend for your reelection champaign?
    - ..."

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  26. Re:Democracy in corporations. by I+am+Jack's+username · · Score: 5, Informative
    > This has been tried out, by a south american
    > corporation. Unfortunately, I forget the name
    > of the person that introduced this.
    > -- ravind

    The company is called Semco, it's in Brazil, and the CEO is Ricardo Semler. You can read about it in his excellent book Maverick!. He's written a follow up called The Seven Day Weekend which I'm getting when it's available here in paperback.

    "If democracy and self-rule are the fundamentals, then why should people give up these rights when they enter their work place? In politics we fight like tigers for freedom, for the right to elect our leaders, for freedom of movement, choice of residence, choice of what work to pursue -- control of our lives, in short. And then we wake up in the morning and go to work, and all those rights disappear. We no longer insist on them. And so for most of the day we return to feudalism. That is what capitalism is -- a version of feudalism in which capital replaces land, and business leaders replace kings. But the hierarchy remains." - Kim Stanley Robinson, Blue Mars, 1996

  27. That last sentence is the most important. by danaris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After all, if I'm going to be punished one way or another, I might as well take advantage.

    This is the exact same reason the murder rates were ridiculously high several hundred years ago in Europe (or at least Britain). There were so many poor people, the theft rate was quite high. The penalty for theft was made death by hanging, and hey, whaddaya know, that's the same as the punishment for murder. So why not kill the guy so you can take more of his stuff with less risk of getting caught?

    If the punishments for minor infractions are made similar to those for greater infractions, people will tend to think less of committing the greater. If we're forced to pay more for using the Internet because of the people piracy, well then, why shouldn't we commit piracy, too? After all, we've already paid for it, haven't we?

    Of course, they'll still sue you. And levy the taxes on a dozen forms of media, and raise CD/DVD/movie prices. Because they don't get that treating customers as criminals is not the way to handle this, and all they see is $$$$.

    Dan Aris

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    Fun. Free. Online. RPG. BattleMaster.
  28. Warning found on a crowbar: by Amerist · · Score: 5, Funny

    In accordance with U.S. Law we are obligated to warn you that this device can be used in illegal activities such as Breaking & Entering, Public Defacement, and even Murder. We urge you to maintain usage of this tool (crowbar) in only legally sanctioned activities and remain aware of and avoid these illegal activities.