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Unicast Claims Success With Internet Commercials

LightForce3 writes "Remember that trial run of full-motion commercials on sites like ESPN.com and MSN? The BBC reports that Unicast, whose caching technology makes these ads work, is claiming a strong favorable response from Internet users who viewed the advertisements. It looks like they could now be making long-term deals with clients (the article mentions Forbes.com and weather.com). As a dialup user, I am less than thrilled about the idea of an extra 2 MB download each time I visit one of these sites."

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  1. Simple solution by whoda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a dialup user, I am less than thrilled about the idea of an extra 2 MB download each time I visit one of these sites."

    Then don't go to their websites.
    Boycotting is still an effective tool, unless of course you are in the minority, which you may be, since I'm sure there are a couple million sports freaks who won't mind the commercials.

    1. Re:Simple solution by Ilgaz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As a media worker, I am not against advertising...

      I only wonder 1 thing... Couldn't these ActiveX, JVM 1.1 geniuses who "invents" a thing which will result in more users filtering ads, code a small (64kb) bandwidth test BEFORE sending them 2mb?

    2. Re:Simple solution by oliverk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They do. Unicast and a couple of the others use a bandwidth checker to figure out if it's worth it to actually worth it to start downloading. It's how they're avoiding the problem of users lacking broadband. It's basically a "speed check" (I've used it in campaigns for Compaq...so you get the sense that this has been around since 2000/2001).

      Question then: has anyone experienced any bandwidth problems that are associated with these types of ads?

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  2. Re:Supress these commercials? by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't use Microsoft software. Really. It claims to use Windows Media 9 and some "proprietary" background downloading crap, so Mozilla with no Windows Media plugin should be a good start, along with Mozilla's AdBlock plugin just to make sure.

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  3. Do we have to miss out on this on Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... The format is based on Microsoft's Windows Media 9 Series and uses Unicast proprietary pre-cached technology.

    What a shame. I use Linux! :-)

  4. Please by PacoTaco · · Score: 4, Funny
    "These results further indicate that given the opportunity to use video, advertisers can shift consumer attitudes and accelerate favourability and purchase intent for their brands," said Allie Savarino, senior vice president of Unicast.

    Keep this person away from me. Thanks.

  5. Strong Favorable Response by Tarwn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Y'think?

    Never ask the sales person how good their product is, all you'll get is whatever they can spout off the top of their head as the newest sales line.

    "Our stuff is great, people love it and can't seem tio live without it" - Every sales person that ever lived

    Heck, why bother asking the originating company when you already kn ow what the answer is going to be. 1. The company will say the customers love it, 2. The customers will be pissed off at yet another intrusion and time wasting tactic when all tey want to do is see the content they came to see. This isn't TV ya bastards.

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  6. Never works for me... by DrPepper · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've tried to look at the demo on their website many times, however it never works because of the requirements:

    Windows
    Internet Explorer
    Windows Media Player
    Microsoft (not Sun) JVM ...but you can't get the MS JVM any more :-( And I don't use IE (although I appreciate most of the world does).

    You can try it yourself here. If you do, be sure to comment what it's like, because I've never seen it!

  7. Re:Funny by Sla$hd0tSux0r · · Score: 4, Informative

    You have to enable "ESPN Motion", which gives you video highlights and video clips from their regular TV shows (PTI, etc.). So, you only see the video ads if you watch their video content. Seems like there isn't really anything new here. Beware of "ESPN Motion" though. It installs a service that constantly downloads content in the background so that when you hit the site it is all ready to go. Interesting idea, but can choke off that UT2004 session at just the wrong time!

  8. More commercials?!?!?!?! by BrainSmashR · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean pop-up's and spam aren't enough.......now I have to dodge full-length commericals on the web too? Anyone remember when it was the information highway and not the advertising highway?

  9. Re:Technical Background? by Sla$hd0tSux0r · · Score: 5, Informative
    It is worse than that.

    It downloads and installs client software that runs 24/7 in the background, downloading the latest content. So if you ever happen to go to the site, the videos are ready to play right from disk.

    As far as I can tell, you have no options for configuring when or what it downloads.

  10. Suit speak by Underholdning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An online survey of more than 3,500 users who saw the ads found that just 28% said they were annoying
    Ok, first of all, I'm pretty sure that number is way too low. But even if it's correct, would you place a technology on your website that's proven to annoy at least 1/3 of your potential customers?

  11. Mozilla tip by LarsWestergren · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you use Mozilla/Firefox you can install Flash Click to View from
    http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info.ph p/flas hclick
    (Remove the space inserted into the link by Slashdot)
    With the plugin, the browser loads the Flash content but displays a blank button with the text "click to view" instead of the animation. So now you can go to the site that require flash, but won't be bothered unless you want to.

    With regards to the full motion video - where do they find the drooling idiots in the test group who want the net to resemble TV more? Do you believe the "only 28% of users found it annoying", or are the advertisers lying? (And why not, it's basically their job anyway)

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  12. Re:Technical Background? by skyhawker · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It downloads and installs client software that runs 24/7 in the background
    I guess it's convenient that Microsoft is one of the players in this game. Don't their current EULA's essentially force you to authorize them to download and install system "upgrades" at their will? I'm beginning to get the idea that "trusted computing" and "digital rights management" are not necessarily being implemented with the consumer's benefit in mind.
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  13. Only 28% of respondents were annoyed by TobascoKid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An online survey of more than 3,500 users who saw the ads found that just 28% said they were annoying.

    That's almost a third of those surveyed found the advertisments annoying. Who would want to piss off a third of thier users?

    And how do they count the number of users so annoyed that they go off the site and don't bother filling in the survey?

    Tk

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  14. adblock by piquadratCH · · Score: 5, Informative

    since I use the Adblock extension for Mozilla and Firefox, the net has become practically adfree for me. I remember a time when ads didn't disturb the reading pleasure of a website with all sorts of motion and sounds. I even clicked on banners sometimes back then. But since all those flashbanners and whatnot appeared, I rather block them

  15. Re:Technical Background? by maharg · · Score: 4, Informative

    it would appear to be macromedia flash/shockwave live
    go to www.unicast.com, click on "gallery" - it's a page with the shockwave object embedded - when you click on the "View ad" button it starts downloading the clip in the background. Presumably some sites will keep the shockwave embedded in a zero height frame which will go fullsize via client side scripting once the whole advert is downloaded ready to play, while others will use in page, or half page, via iframes or whatever.
    You can get hold of the shockwave file direct at http://www.unicast.com/gallery/previewpane/gallery 4.swf?n=03%2F16%2F2004+7%3A57%3A14+AM&info=Havaian as!!!!!Many+Forms!!!!!Almap+BBDO+Brazil!!!!!Levi%2 7s!!!!!Levi+Strauss!!!!!AvenueA!!!!!General+Motors !!!!!Chevy+Tahoe!!!!!Campbell%2DEwald!!!!!History+ Channel!!!!!Killing+Pablo!!!!!Horizon+Interactive! !!!!Jaguar!!!!!XJ4!!!!!Global+Beach

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  16. Re:Supress these commercials? by edbarrett · · Score: 5, Informative

    In addition to AdBlock (and Flash click-to-view, which someone mentioned further down the page), take a look at the adblocking CSS on texturizer.net. It really does an amazing job of killing just ads (including all the ads on Slashdot-- I'm not going to click them anyway, so I don't want to see them.)

  17. Evil users.... by trezor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the internet is not a mature medium, until it is as braindead as TV and purely satisfies corporate interests.

    A medium that gives the user control is clearly evil and most definetly encourages evil. That will have to be counter-eviled.

    How is it that the people making decisions fail to realize that the internet (or web that is) isn't a push-medium, but pull-medium?

    You'd think people get that by now? Or am I to optimistic?

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  18. The web is not TV by tetrode · · Score: 5, Insightful

    REPEAT: THE WEB IS NOT TV

    It's almost too obvious a point, but apparently it bears repeating: The more the Web is like TV, the less we need it. TV already does a pretty effective job of delivering what Net content people call "broadband multimedia information and entertainment" to the home, and most consumers already own the hardware. What sells the Internet to newbies is its promise of things TV can't deliver: "many-to-many" communication via bulletin boards and e-mail; interactive services that go beyond catalog shopping; quirky content unavailable on TV's limited number of channels; specific, accurate information that's there when you need it, whether it's sports stats, stock quotes or plane-ticket availability.

    from: http://archive.salon.com/march97/21st/webtv970327. html

    Seven years later, and it still counts. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. People will either block those ads, or go to other sites. Just like TCP, they will learn to route around the problem.

    The web is not TV, it is not a one way communication channel where you can shove as much commercial bullshit to the other side as your CFO requires you to do. You don't have regulations on the number of channels, you have an unlimited number of them, and they get popular or less populer in a matter of days/weeks/months.

  19. TV commercials on the internet? Absurd. by SeaDour · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What Unicast doesn't seem to realize is that the internet is really not, in any way, a comparable medium to television. Today's newspapers and periodical magazines have proven that effective, well-placed static advertisements still work even in today's multimedia-crazy world. Even though the news channels offer live, full-color, slow-motion replays of the latest news events, many of us still turn to the old-fashioned, ad-supported newspapers as a reliable source of information. Similarly, we go to web sites like ESPN, MSN and the Weather Channel to *read* information. Full-motion video ads only distract from that purpose.

  20. Re:Supress these commercials? by Rigor+Morty · · Score: 5, Informative

    Privoxy is the newer version of Junkbuster. And for all that ad-free goodness, I chain Privoxy to Proxomitron (in Windows XP).

    Prixovy - http://www.privoxy.org

    Proxomitron - http://www.proxomitron.info/files/index.shtml

    Also, get a patched hosts file from here,

    http://remember.mine.nu

    And run Edexter to fill in the banners.

    http://www.pyrenean.com/edexter.php

    Ad-free pop-up free content. On dial-up, it's like sweet freedom.

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