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File Sharing Increases CD Sales

Andrew writes "ARIA have released figures that show for 2003, album sales have reached an all time high. In fact, according to Peter Martin, who recently went on Australian radio, before file sharing and CD burning they were selling 10 million less. Total unit sales were also at an all time high at 65.6 million. CD single sales declined 1.9 million over the year, but as Peter said file downloading is doing a better job. Should help Kazaa's legal problems."

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  1. Yeah right, more like... by ThomasXSteel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Obviously our enforcement efforts are working. If we sue more people sales will be even higher."

    -RIAA

  2. Re:Specific to Australia? by Brissie_lad · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, there is enough evidence at Janis Ians website to support this, and Baen Books have been making the same claim with regard to their free library, see janisian.com and Baen Free Library for more info.
    [Note: Bean seems to be down ATM]

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  3. Better music by frs_rbl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    maybe the explanation is as simple as that: artists creating better music

    Consumers are not just mindless fools who dumbly follow economic up and downturns: they are downloading more AND buying more CDs

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  4. Re:Specific to Australia? by jabuzz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not really album sales for 2003 where an all time record high in the United Kingdom. Though again single sales slumped yet again. The reason for this is obvious though, they are way to expensive to bother with. Three singles would more than cover the cost of an album. I remember when it was more like seven or eight singles to the price of an album.

  5. Peer to Peer Economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've long had a theory that the RIAA/MPAA aren't really against piracy, but they are really against a peer-to-peer economy that is coming up. I believe that they are threatened, not by illegal piracy activities, but by the market becoming splintered, and people listenening to a larger variety of music. People on the Internet might stop listening to a few Pop stars, and start listening to a larger variety of music, possibly each other's music.

    If my theory holds good, this news item will not prevent them from using legal strong-arm tactics - they will fight to retain their market share.

  6. Re:Specific to Australia? by haakon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It only covers albums sold in Australia. The stats don't include the sales of Australian artists in overseas markets.

  7. Slashdot spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Slashdot spin on this through the years has been quite outrageous.

    First we have situation (a), where the total CD sales increase, as in this article. Slashdot routinely cliams this as very strong evidence that copying of music actually helps sales. (References: [1], [2], [3]).

    But in situation (b), when CD sales fall, the Slashdot editors suddenly forget the strong casual link that they'd earlier claimed, and declare that this must be due to a poor economy or other non-file-sharing factors.

    My question is: how can you rely on a poor economy to explain case (b), while blatantly ignoring the positive effects of a booming economy on case (a)?

    Don't get me wrong... I download mp3s all the time, and quite a few of them are not legit. I think copyright is royally screwed up.

    But I'm not going to play with the facts to try to claim that my downloading activities actually help the recording industry. That's just bullshit.

  8. Re:I hate to say it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But their main argument, that file swapping is obviously decreasing sales because sales have gone down, has no legs to stand on when sales are increasing.

    No, you're wrong. Since file sharing has been going on for years now, it's basically a constant factor.

    The fact that CD sales have increased doesn't say anything one way or the other about whether file sharing impacts CD sales. File sharing has been going on, basically the same, for the last year or two... it's much more clear that there have been changes in the economy over the last year. Occam's razor, anyone?

    Also, file "swapping" is not an accurate term, since the files are being copied. To swap usually implies that a physical object is transferred from point A to point B --- not that a duplicate is made and sent to point B, while the original remains at point A.

  9. Personal experience makes me say "Damn straight!" by Mjlner · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Some years ago, I accidentally heard about an Irish band called The Wolfe Tones. I live in a country where they are totally unknown, so their records can't be bought in the store. P2P made it possible for me to download samples of their music. I was sold, and so was my girlfriend. We made a trip to Ireland just to attend their concert and, of course, buy their records. Turned out be a wonderful trip and a wonderful concert. Also turned out I spent a whole lot of money on that trip.

    After getting a credit card, I regularly buy their records over the net. Their music has also made me interested in other Irish music, which I buy (Dubliners, Clancy brothers, Christy Moore, etc. etc), most of which is unavailable in my country.

    The bottom line is that i have spent a whole lot more money *because* of p2p, than had I bought all the songs I've downloaded, which I wouldn't have anyhow, because most of it isn't good enough to be worth my money.

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  10. Re:I hate to say it by Fred+IV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The opposite is also true, For years I've been hearing that P2P wasn't responsible for declining sales, and crappy music was. Now that the trend has reversed, I'm expected to believe that P2P is responsible for the increase?

  11. Re:Specific to Australia? by gantrep · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why CD's are slipping down the charts

    From the article: "Have you noticed that the singles and albums charts increasingly seem to bear almost no relation?"

    and

    "The music industry is being sustained by middle-aged men who can't use the internet."

    I think there's a lot of truth there.

  12. Re:RIAA will counter.... by zokum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not quite. Radio stations pay for the music they send. I run a radio station, and we got about 20.000 potential listeners. For sending music we pay roughly a $2 per hour of music. If everyone who listened to p2p aquired music would pay something like this, i have no doubt they'd run napster themselves... 2 dollar might not sound much, but this is a small town, and if we were to send 24/7, we'd pay roughly $17.600 in royalties. Think about how many radio stations there are, and you will see how much money they earn on us :-)

    For that reason, we've been toying with the idea of sending non-riaa'ed music on air. Letting "indie" musicians have their music braodcast for free, and we don't pay them either. Mutually beneficient. The local norwegian "riaa" was extremely sceptical when i asked them about this, and they didn't really beleive me that there are in fact musicians out there that don't register their music to RIAA etc for royalties. I've had a couple of dealings with these people as it's part of my job, and to be honest, they scare me a bit when it comes to their views on copyright.

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  13. Re:Specific to Australia? by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The singles market is held up by children, hence the dominance of manufactured pop acts, while the market for albums is older - Fifty Quid Man, as that article says.

    My own opinion on what the recording industry should do is this: Give Up Selling Singles.

    Treat the single as an advertisement for the album. That's why you want it to be played on the radio and MTV and on TotP, right? You want people to hear the song, to like it and to want more - and then buy the album. So: release high-quality mp3s onto the net with no restrictions whatever (except maybe 'No Commercial Use') and positively encourage their trading. Make the rest of the tracks available from the same site on payment.

    You'd lose some revenue from singles sales, but that revenue stream is dying anyway; this could help strengthen the real cash cow, the album.

    It worked for iD Software - why shouldn't it work for EMI?

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