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Debunking the Trillion-Dollar Space Myth

jfoust writes "When the President and NASA announced the agency's new space initiative, including sending humans back to the Moon and on to Mars, many news reports claimed that the plan could cost as much as $1 trillion. According to this Space Review article, that trillion-dollar price tag is a myth: it was based on erroneous data and analysis, in large part by a single Associated Press reporter, and propagated by many other reporters too busy -- or too lazy -- to check on the facts. Could this kill the plan before it has a chance to start?"

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  1. What? by deanj · · Score: 5, Funny

    A reporter not checking facts? I'm shocked I tell you!

    Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that someone on slashdot did the same thing!

    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well the original estimate was made with the assumption that Bush would send troups there to defend the moon-people from terrorists using money made from moon-oil, but after further analysis it seems we don't need the troups, the moon-oil is free for the taking! Hopfully the moon-oil will drop gas prices... I can't even afford to drive to pay for my robot-insurance.

  2. Re:Fuck it by LittleVito · · Score: 1, Funny

    If we send our unemployed people to Mars, then we have less here on Earth.

  3. I will place my minions on the moon by The+Unabageler · · Score: 1, Funny

    if you give me 1 trillion dollars

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  4. This guy should post on Slashdot. by hyperherod · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Humor writer Dave Barry, however, may have summarized the situation the best. "The Bush administration says the Mars mission can be accomplished for only 143.8 zillion dollars," Barry wrote. "But critics claim that the true cost is likely to be much more like 687 fillion dillion dollars. (These numbers are imaginary, but trust me, they're as accurate as any other cost estimates you see about the Mars mission.)""

  5. Totally bunk by shadowmatter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, how the hell are we going to put a man on Mars for 1 trillion dollars when it takes one hundred billion dollars alone to keep a laser on the moon from destroying Earth?

    Really people, think it through.

    - sm

  6. Reporter Michael Bolton was heard to say: by fataugie · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It's probably a misplaced decimal point....I always screw up some mundane detail like that"

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    1. Re:Reporter Michael Bolton was heard to say: by beacher · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, the reporter used standard dollars instead of metric ... oh wait.......

  7. I'll do it for half that! by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heck, I'll even kick back in a hefty campaign contribution.

    BTM

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  8. Re:The goverment pays extra for waste... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    " The Pentagon will pay over $500 for a screw,"

    That's nothing, I've gotten married, and believe me, those few screws were hardly worth the $500K its cost me over the past 20 years.

  9. Only in America would we send people to Mars by PDX · · Score: 1, Funny

    Before cleaning up the messes made from wars.

  10. Re:Fuck it by Hello+this+is+Linus · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...with out unemployed people who would be left to post on slashdot??

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  11. Myths and Lies by scruffy · · Score: 3, Funny
    that trillion-dollar price tag is a myth
    All the other price tags are just plain old lies.
  12. Re:Hello Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Duh! Misexuals have sex with one gender. Bisexuals have sex with both genders. Trisexuals add animals to the mix.

  13. Re:sounds cheap compared to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    some rouge asteriod

    Well at least it wasn't a rogue rouge asteroid, they are some bad mofos, heaps worse than the verte and bleu asteroids, rogue or not.

  14. Actual Cost Breakdown by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

    After further investigation, the budget breakdown is as follows:

    Space craft - $500 Million

    Mission control &
    Support crew - $2 Million

    Fuel - $800 Thousand

    Diebold navigation system - $20 Million

    SCO license for onboard CPU's - $699 * 500

    Anti Virus software to ensure Windows
    based fire suppression system
    isn't infected before liftoff - $200

    Man hunt for someone smart enough
    to operate the spacecraft yet dumb
    enough to ride it to Mars - $1 Trillion

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    1. Re:Actual Cost Breakdown by southpolesammy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Getting the cost approved during your presidential administration: Priceless....

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  15. Re:The goverment pays extra for waste... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Insert inappropriate sexual reference to "screw" here.

  16. Re:sounds cheap compared to... by Dutchmaan · · Score: 2, Funny

    or a strike from some rouge asteriod! ...from the red light district of space!

  17. Solution by JediTrainer · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's a simple solution - I bet we can outsource it to India. They can probably send a guy there for a hundred bucks or so.

    Whether or not he arrives in one piece, however, was a minor omission in the requirements document, much to his later dismay.

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  18. $1 trillion by FrostedWheat · · Score: 4, Funny

    the plan could cost as much as $1 trillion

    Yea, but what the reporter failed to mention was that this is Canadian dollars.

    The whole mission will actually only cost $9.99. With a few subsidies...

  19. Re:Poverty by BigDuke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps they could sell a few screws to the Pentagon... the going rate is about $500 I think.

  20. gov't, consultant and contractor waste? by hpulley · · Score: 3, Funny

    This article in Spacedaily does a good job of explaining why Bush's costs are both too much and too little to do what he wants. I love the quote:

    This is what John Pike means when he says that the budget "won't even pay for the artwork." (Pike is exaggerating the situation by a factor of about 2. I am not aware of any single NASA program costing more than about $3B that produced only artist's concepts. X-30/NASP cost about $7.5B in current dollars, and part of one X-30 fuel tank was actually fabricated.)

    If $3B can manage to pay off consultants to think deep thoughts about a project and an artist to draw up a rendering then $1T isn't really that much in the world of gov't finance, high payed consultants and contractors used to dealing with the military where any price goes. It would be interesting to see what an X-Prize sized budget passed 100km orbit would look like.

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  21. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by Neil+Watson · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about Tang?

  22. Re:The goverment pays extra for waste... by Urban+Garlic · · Score: 5, Funny

    And why not? In some parts of Vegas, $500 is the market price for a screw...

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  23. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by Steve+G+Swine · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Dad can be believed, there was plenty of good tang around before Apollo...

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  24. Mister Liberal makes a joke by The+I+Shing · · Score: 1, Funny

    Similarly under scrutiny is the Bush Administration claim that an extended mission into space could be paid for with a fifty dollar Sears gift certificate and another round of tax cuts. The administration has asserted that the devil is in no way involved in this particular figure, but has not ruled out the future involvement of the Prince of Darkness.

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  25. Why Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why go to Mars? The weather is miserable. You can't get the red stains out of your knees if you fall down. The views are great but the all you can eat buffet are over rated and the shows are lame...Vegas is Cheaper!

  26. Re:No, NASA can handle it just fine themselves by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe NASA could do a better job at managing tight-budget programs if they blocked access to /. for people embroiled in start-up operations.

  27. Re:BZZT, human colonization no where in the cards by spellraiser · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is nowhere remotely inhabitable anywhere near us we could have any hope of colonizing in a sustainable way in the time frame.

    Well, NASA says that they might be able to turn New Jersey into a viable colony through only minimal terraforming... about 50 years I think it was. So cheer up!

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  28. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by modder · · Score: 2, Funny

    If he gets re-elected, *I'm* going to Mars....

  29. What really happened by TheABomb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Congress asked NASA to compute how much money they'd need. Unfortunately, one of their scientists mistakenly converted dollar amounts to pesos early in the calculation, and the amount was never converted back.

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  30. Re:No, NASA can handle it just fine themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Pigs will fly!
    Dogs and cats will live together!
    Darkness over the Earth!

    Mass Hysteria!

  31. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

    But now it's available in flavours other than just "Poon".

  32. Re:sounds cheap compared to... by misleb · · Score: 3, Funny
    Instead of observing asteroids, let's mine em. That way, if we get a rogue one headed for earth, we'll have plenty of mining equipment up there that can land on the bugger while it's still a ways away, and strip it of enough mass to divert it or make it a non-threat.

    Hey! Yeah! Maybe we can send Bruce Willis and a bunch of oil riggers to drive around the asteroid in a dune buggy on steroids setting nuclear charges.... Oh, wait, they did that in a (really bad) movie already.

    I can't believe you got modded up as "Insightful."

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  33. Re:Is not a trillion, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So we should explore space in order to mine minerals in order to explore space. Nice circular argument.

  34. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Could you do us all a favor and take Alec Baldwin with you?

    -Peter

  35. Re:$1 trillion can go very quickly... by modder · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll beam him up later, we're fresh out of ice cream sandwiches at the moment.

    End communication.

  36. Re:Not even close by Crispy+Critters · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your argument would make sense if a navy aircraft carrier could fly.

  37. Re:sounds cheap compared to... by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Funny
    or a strike from some rouge asteriod!

    Fucking red asteroids! Why are they always coming after us? What did we ever do to them?!?

    They're coming to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids...that's what Red asteroids do.

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