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Mobile Wifi Backpack

ruzel writes "Julian Bleecker's web site TechKwonDo describes a project that is a wifi base station in a backpack. 'WiFi.Bedouin is a wearable, mobile 802.11b node disconnected from the global Internet. It forms a WiFi "island Internet" challenging conventional assumptions about WiFi and suggesting new architectures for digital networks that are based on physical proximity rather than solely connectivity.' The motivation is essentially subversive but what other uses are there for a device like this?"

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  1. Out for a run? by baudilus · · Score: 4, Funny

    So instead of war driving will there be war running?

    1. Re:Out for a run? by ComradeX13 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gotta... keep... going... ISO... almost... finished...

    2. Re:Out for a run? by boisepunk · · Score: 5, Funny
      Coming next fall:


      WIFI DEATHMATCH!

      Watch as 16 geeks battle until only one has a functioning wifi backpack.
      All of the secure and nonsecure Operating Systems will be featured.
      Who will emerge victorious? Find out next fall!

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  2. What the fuck? by James+A.+M.+Joyce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "WiFi.Bedouin is a wearable, mobile 802.11b node disconnected from the global Internet. It forms a WiFi "island Internet" challenging conventional assumptions about WiFi and suggesting new architectures for digital networks that are based on physical proximity rather than solely connectivity."

    What the hell does this mean? Sounds like a bunch of buzzwords thrown together about a project nobody wants that solves a problem that doesn't exist.

    1. Re:What the fuck? by sporty · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Lemme break it down for you.

      WiFi.Bedouin is a wearable, mobile 802.11b node disconnected from the global Internet.


      It's a wifi station that's not plugged into a broaddband connection.


      It forms a WiFi "island Internet"


      It has no uplink.


      challenging conventional assumptions about WiFi and suggesting new architectures for digital networks


      Usually, there's an uplink, right?


      that are based on physical proximity rather than solely connectivity.


      Think of it like Gnutella. Anyone can become a hub, and if two people connect to it, you are part of the same network. Now imagine gnutella over something like, CB radio. It's all proximity based.


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    2. Re:What the fuck? by xenocyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

      its pure pr bullshit, all they did was put a low power access point in a backpack with some batteries and a powerbook playing server
      heh, i wouldn't mind stealing one... but other than that, not very interesting
      (-1 Marketing Bullshit)

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    3. Re:What the fuck? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget, it's 'subversive.' Yes, you too can destabilize government and society by carting around a fucking access point.

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  3. Setting up workgroups in remote areas by raider_red · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are some military, missionary, and humanitarian groups who could use this set up work group networks in a remote location. True, you could do the same with ad-hoc networking, but this gives a one-click-connect option.

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  4. Other uses? by mahdi13 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The motivation is essentially subversive but what other uses are there for a device like this?
    LAN party
    Anytime...anywhere
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  5. A little full of itself? by bc90021 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, it's cool, but this seems a little over the top:

    "WiFi.Bedouin is designed to be functional as well as provocative, expanding the possible meaning and metaphors about access, proximity, wireless and WiFi. This access point is not the web without wires. Instead, it is its own web , an apparatus that forces one to reconsider and question notions of virtuality, materiality, displacement, proximity and community. " (Emphasis theirs.)

    I can't imagine it will be long before this gets combined with WiMax, and then none of that "not web without wires" will apply anymore.

  6. "island internet" by Roger+Keith+Barrett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What idiot marketing person came up with the term "island internet". The words are mutually exclusive.

    It's a mobile WAN! This is a tech website, people, not cnn.com tech news!

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    1. Re:"island internet" by DR+SoB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually it's a mobile LAN.

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  7. /.ed? by ComradeX13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quick, someone build one and run out to their server... I think we need a mirror.

  8. Google Cache by sndtech · · Score: 5, Informative

    google cache since its already slashdotted

    1. Re:Google Cache by HiredMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dunno, maybe the person wearing their webserver went for coffee and is just out of range right now.

      =tkk

  9. So what's the usefulness? by ramk13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems to me you'd need a critical mass of people who are interested in joining a random floating network for it to be of any use at all.

    Most people use their wireless to connect to the real internet, so what do they gain over the conventional internet. Some of the ideas listed on the website (which is getting thrashed at the moment) are redirecting conventional .com websites and streaming music. Might be nice in a place where people are already motivated to get together, i.e. a convention.

  10. Here I am, wanting to RTFA, by idontgno · · Score: 4, Insightful
    and the site isn't answering.

    Anyway, I wondered (and I have to continue wondering, since the article is /.ed): what's the point? Portable LAN party? One-man mobile tentacle-pr0n provider? Geek chic?

    Seriously, without internet connectivity, what's it got? Or are we operating under the delusion that a clutch of wifi afficianados clustering around a self-contained hotspot will spontaneously generate useful, amusing, or at least non-trivial content?

    I don't get it.

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  11. Gamers, criminals, and subversives. by LeeRagans · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can see a mobile gaming. Imagine having you own little private gaming world. It follows you and people can log on when you are near. Play with people on the train, bus, in the mall.

    Change the paradigm, find the game, not find access.

    The possibilities for private networks amongst friends that synchronize data when they pass seems pretty high as well. Can you say organized crime?

  12. Error 404 by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Funny

    Error 404

    The page you requested was not found on the server. Perhaps you should try taking several steps in the geographic direction of the server you are requesting the document from.

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  13. great idea! by Roger+Keith+Barrett · · Score: 5, Funny

    Playing games with power gloves and VR glasses in a park would cause a bigger panic than the War of the Worlds broadcast!

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  14. It's got a few bells, but... by SandSpider · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By and large, this is what we call a "Powerbook." Okay, it does some stuff like translating URLs to arbitrary local pages, but that is of limited use. At least for OS X users.

    To understand what I mean, go to a Macworld Expo Keynote with your Airport card. You'll see dozens of different Airport networks pop up. Because everyone has Rendezvous, you can use iChat to chat with any of them, and you can use Rendezvous to share your locally available web pages automatically. They'll even show up in Safari's bookmarks. The best part is, you could see what pages you're going to, rather than being redirected at random.

    When I go to the AdHoc Conference this year (used to be MacHack), I'm going to have my powerbook set up with a Wiki so that, if I collaborate on my Hack again, it'll be an easy way to share the information. Also, during the Hack contest, anyone who wanted to could open a copy of SubEthaEdit and record their notes from the show. It allowed a quick collaboration between several to dozens of people on covering the show.

    So, in general, it just doesn't seem to do much for you, aside from pranks. I suppose it's good for people who don't have Rendezvous enabled throughout their operating system.

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  15. Re:Mobile pr0n! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's called a girlfriend. Look into it.

    Unfortunately, the "girlfriend" protocol requires direct connectivity before remote image download can occur. In fact, users of this protocol often find themselves purchasing the packet wrapper for the sole purpose of removing it when the packet is received.

    Mobile pr0n with a 20-ft radius has the advantage of getting you ping access to a server that normally would not allow the receiver within 10-ft (distance measured with a device called a "pole").

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  16. Multi-cell wifi by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems that the ultimate system would use at least two wifi cards with a search and load-balancer. One card would provide a connection while the other card searches other bands for the next connection. If both cards find an AP, the load balancer would provide twice thee bandwidth. When the first connection weakens, the system would do a hand-off to the second card. It may disrupt continuity of some internet services, that assume IP continuity, but it would let a user be ultra mobile -- skipping from wifi cell to wifi cell with little perceived break in connectivity.

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  17. Future of the Net... by dekashizl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think back to around 1994/95... It wasn't unusual to have an unfirewalled computer with a static IP address sitting on the net. We used to ping-flood people we didn't like while playing Quake. Maybe even throw a WinNuke their way if they got nasty. Whatever, it was the Wild West, no laws, no morality, everything was free and fun. Looking back on that behavior, it was pretty immature and irresponsible, but we were just playing with the new technology.

    Fast forward almost a decade to now, and computers sit behind hardware firewalls with dynamic IP addresses, are assigned rotating NAT internal addresses, run virus protection and spyware removal softwares, must be constantly patched to fix security holes, and people are innundated with corporate media and SPAM.

    OK who could have predicted all this back then? Sure some had the ideas that it was coming, but not like this. We lost what was the Original Internet, a thing of innocence and freedom. Much of what bound it together was trust. That's gone.

    So this brings up an interesting concept. Rather than having "an internet", we may have our own mini-internets. Companies do this to some extent with intRAnets. But this idea now takes it to the next level. A completely isolated network with strict content and connectivity controls to the outside world. I get the feeling that this is our future, the best way to deal with all the problems that an international connected web of distrust that is the Internat brings: Set up a local web of trust and establish relations with other webs of trust. This is the model adopted by nations in how they interact with each other (in terms of laws, immigration, trade, etc.). Neighborhoods and tribes operate like this as well. And the interesting part of it in this new domain, is that physical proximity and characteristics are even less relevant than before, opening up many more opportunities for multiple memberships and diversification.

    Sorry this is a bit rambling (-1 Rambling), but just wanted to float the idea out there that this or something like it may solve a lot of our problems (as well as introducing its own, of course).

  18. A WiFi Fidonet/Freenet, on the run by silentbozo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, if you had enough traffic density, this could act as a supplement to wired WiFi access. Consider FidoNet - nothing but nodes that talked to other nodes when able (ie, during the middle of the night for a few minutes when long distance charges were the least). You could send non-time-critical (encrypted) mail via a local node, and hopefully, if it ever linked up to the main network, your mail would make it. You'd probably want to keep broadcasting this mail for delivery until it was accepted by a minimum number of unwired nodes, or until you got confirmation that it had been sent.

    This would also be an interesting application for a freenet-like network. A mobile, distributed collection of nodes could contain a lot of information, possibly distributed backups, local caches of streaming media, etc. AND, you wouldn't necessarily have to tote around backpacks either - stick one of these in the trunk of your car, and you can have a mobile node in traffic.

    Lastly, if you give these nodes the capability to smart-mesh traffic if there are enough of them nearby, you could introduce wired endpoints that would turn a collection of semi-isolated nodes into a full interconnected wired network.

  19. sounds like ideal ad-hoc network... by burns210 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Get a linux distro tuned just for this ad-hoc network... setup a nice cache server and ipv6 and let it accept everyone... all the users woul get in vacinity would supply their own address(ipv6, again) and would setup a wireless p2p ad-hoc network... the more users using a cache system the more % of the internet it holds...

  20. Huh? by El · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is this a win over, say, just running 802.11b in Adhoc mode? Whenever I want to do large file transfers between 2 computers, it is faster to switch both to Adhoc, do the transfer, and switch them back then to simply do the transfer through the Access Point... who is it that thinks having this backpack receive and retransmit every packet is a GOOD thing for round trip time?

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  21. Security issues can be completely ignored... by Gruneun · · Score: 4, Funny

    if you can run faster than your opponent.

  22. When I was a kid... by mkro · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I was a kid, the ice cream truck came by our house once a week. The bell could be heard ringing from a distance, and the kids ran out to stand ready to hail it to a stop.
    Now, 20 years later - introducing... the WAREZ TRUCK - driving from neighbourhood to neighbourhood, wifi-serving the latest games from Razor, Fairlight and Deviance, the latest movies from groups as Centropy and Brutus, and the latest hi-quality porn from NovaVCD, Swe6rus and others (Parental advisory - reproductive organs in motions).

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  23. Re:They got something like that already... by billstr78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is possible using the existing protocol included in 802.11b devices (ad-hoc) is limited at best. There is no routing capability in these protocols and this prevents the networks from stringing out beyond the range of a single node. Considering a single node can only reach a little over a km given average xmit power and antenna gain, this is a problem for anything mobile and ad-hoc. Enter AODV, used by many "mesh" networks to extend the reach of a single wired gateway to much greater distances.

  24. Re:Try War Panting. by jarrell · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Well, you don't see a use because you live in a country with essentially unmonitored and easy access to information...

    I see this as being of great interest to dissident groups. You disseminate information from the backpack cell. Members just need a laptop, and to be in the vicinity. They don't even have to really know each other, or who the guy with the backback is. The gov't would have to quickly pick up on the ap, and zero in on the signal.. And they wearer can be walking through the street market, as are the people with the laptops busily downloaded the censored information...

    Drawing from today's headlines, say the Taiwanese gov't cracks down on the KMT; they could walk through the nightmarket and exchange info. bring the AP to an internet cafe, and not even use the cafe's network, but still have an online exchange.

    There's all sorts of subversive uses.