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Political Pop-ups, and Follow the Money

finelinebob writes "Now we know why Bush wants broadband for everyone: The Republican National Committee plans on bringing the campaign to Internet pop-up ads. From the article: 'Internet experts said that Republicans have entered a new realm of campaigning. Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long, and little data exist to suggest how voters might respond to uninvited interruptions.' Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers now!" While you're waiting for your first pop-up, pop on over to a website that tracks campaign contributions: vVF4N writes "Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information. The Washington Post (registration required) has more. Find out who your friends and neighbors are contributing to."

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  1. Re:Oh bloody hell by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Well, the annoying thing is... whoever wins this election will be deciding what my country's foreign policy is going to be. Yet I don't get a vote in it. Isn't it great living in a vassal state?

    And now, just to rub it in, they're going to pop up their campaign ads at me. Brilliant.

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  2. MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).

    Freeware. http://www.myie2.com

  3. follow the money by ashot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    looks to me like a very interesting graphical representation of voter contributions, it seems a little scary though that I can access the name and address of everyone in my zipcode who contributed x amount of money to x candidate; I can see why it is necessary to keep these records public, but I can also see some potential for mis-use. Anyone else have this thought?

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  4. Reminds of of their "anti-spam" provisions by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wasn't there some discussion about provisions in the CAN-SPAM act to exempt "informative" political messages?

    At that level, I wouldn't be surprised if popup blockers and filters against political spam were somehow to run afoul of DMCA (circumvention devices!) and friends. You MUST view this popup, we're checking! Honest! :)

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  5. brotherly love? by aarku · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Governor John Bush only gave his brother $1000?
    Zing!

  6. Re:Pop ups by TomV · · Score: 4, Interesting

    or: As well as using the internet to rally and energise the American Public into voting for them, they are going to use it to further alienate and annoy everyone outside the US without a vote in the US elections with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe these pop-ups are actually going to be limited to US voters only?

  7. They must not actually use the net... by JLeslie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The use of pop-up ads really seem to suggest that they don't ever use the web. Or at least not ofen enough to know how annoying, and pretty useless, pop up (or pop under) ads are.

    It's similiar to how so many of the top spammers admit to being computer illiterate before discovering spam as a way to make money. And it's the same reason scalpers are rarely fans of the band or sports team they sell tickets for. Anyone with a vested interest in the activity will not want to destroy it.

    Alright, I'll admit that pop ups are not destroying the web, but I stand by the fact that those who advocate their use must rarely surf the web themselves.

  8. Re:follow the money -- it's a good thing... by BadElf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's potential for mis-use, but talk about an eye-opener. How many average citizens would take the time to request this data from the FEC?

    A quick lookup of my street address was extremely insightful. I recognized many of the names from my years in the business community and guess what? Most of the Republican donors are owners and officers of companies who have been laying off workers (and outsourcing their work) with most contributing $2000 checks from every person in their household. The Dems, on the other hand, had more contributors, but they were much smaller contributions ($50 - $500) and mostly from small business owners and average Joe's -- many retirees.

    Now I can see for myself why the Bushies have over $100M at their disposal, while Kerry's only at $22M or so. Knowing where the money is coming from helps show where government will be going -- and if Bush wins, it will be going into Big Business's back pocket.

  9. Re:So now ... by DietVanillaPepsi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."

    Democrats do the same. Most politicians within this two-party system do the same. They appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    I used to feel that my intelligence was insulted everytime I heard a politician speak on an issue. Over time, I have realized that politicians must appeal to their bases: people who are fanatical about the political party to which they belong, which makes them too blind to examine the issues beyond taking their candidates proclamations as gospel and people who are too dumb to examine the issues in any way, shape or form and vote for a particular party because that's what they've always done. The rest of the electorate is forever voting for the lesser of two evils.

  10. Re:Pop ups by Cally · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm really looking forward to the first one of these I see, when I shall send a lengthy email of complaint about how I'm unable to vote in the election, not being American. Hopefully that'll suck up a few minutes of time of some campaign worker and help drain away the Bush funds. Just doin' my bit...

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  11. Be sure to click! by DaRobin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Certainly do not use popup blockers for this, on the contrary, bring them up, click, bring'em up again and click click until you're tired -- it'll cost them money for each click... I reckon we could even have a "Click The Bush" campaign in which good net citizens would click on those ads several times a day to help rid the world of this pestilence :)

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  12. Seriously.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    you think either the Republicans or Democrats are that concerned about where the money comes from.

    Now that's optimistic! If you've got a prostitution ring in Thailand that specializes in the anal rape of baby monk seals, you just have to launder the money before you buy the politician.

    Randomly enough. They admit this is an experiment and they don't know what they're doing, but they've got, and I shit you not, so much money, that it makes it a perfect time to run the experiment. That's their actual, said it to the camera, position. It doesn't matter how much they piss people off, they've got enough extra money to fix it.

    But I'd check the outrage if I were a European. The Republicans couldn't by a better publicist than the EU. Remember, if you look like you hate America, anything that pisses you off looks like a good idea. If you want Ohio and it's electoral votes to go to the red team in November, keep it up.

  13. Re:Found My Boss on there by MyFourthAccount · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ah, is this him?
    William H. Gates - George W. Bush - 1 Microsoft Way
    CEO -------------- $2,000 --------- Redmond, WA 98052
    Microsoft Corp.
  14. Re:DMCA by epcraig · · Score: 2, Interesting
    USA-PATRIOT, war on Iraq, DMCA is just my longest standing grudge against the Demoblicans and Republicrats...

    After all, only a conspiracy theorist would point to Skull and Bones. ;-)

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  15. Fundrace 2004 = VERY VERY SCARY by mumblestheclown · · Score: 4, Interesting
    for those arguing for 'accountability' in political donations, consider this.

    Jane works in a law firm. Jane likes dennis kucinich. Jane's boss, a partner, likes GW Bush.

    Jane's boss can only contribute up to the maximum personal limit of $2000 or whatever it is. But, he can strongly suggest to jane and others that it might be in jane's career interest to do the same.

    now, the boss can check up on jane with this handy web site. of course, nobody has forced jane to do anything, but still, the boss can check up to see what kind of 'team player' she is.

    this is TRULY scary. do a search of your loal neighborhood and see how many lawyers' names come up.

  16. Just hope they don't do it in Switzerland, too... by DrYak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Alienating the Americans ? How about alienating the Swiss ?
    Each couple of month, in Switzerland we're supposed to vote about a dozen of laws, laws change and other subjects.
    Just imagine the desktop mess if swiss politician start to make pop-up like the american : not just two pop-ups for two candidate, but dozens of pop-ups about pro and cons for each subjet.
    Now THAT'S going to make a big wreckage on the desktop ! I think people will start to hate democracy... or make Mozilla the official nationnal browser for it's ad-blocking...

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  17. Google bar missing some popups by SpaceRook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've noticed the Googlebar has be allowing some popups through lately. I wonder what the new technique is. In my own experiments, I've found I could launch unwanted popups with an onMouseOver() method in the [body] tag. That tricked Mozilla and the Google bar.

    Will the political campaigns be that mischievous? Republicans might, because apparently they don't understand the internet. Democrats won't be so dumb. The primaries were an excellent crash course in internet fund raising, and they are way ahead of the game.

  18. Dean supports Bush!! by zillyorg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to this, it appears that Howard Dean has given up on the Democratic Party altogether and now supports George Bush for President.

  19. Our Favorite Characters by Ridgelift · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gee, this Fundrace thing is fun...and kinda scary. Especially if you normally don't want people to know your home address. Here's some of the giving habits of our favorite cast of characters:

    Bill Gates - CEO Microsoft - Republican
    Steve Ballmer - President Microsoft - Republican
    Hilary Rosen - Consultant & President RIAA - Democrat
    Jack Valenti - President MPAA - Democrat
    Darl McBride - President SCO Group - Thankless Bastard

    1. re: Our Favorite Characters by Marvin_OScribbley · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh great! Do I vote with the RIAA/MPAA or with Microsoft, hmm... Thanks a lot for exposing our two party system for what it is.

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  20. Re:Pop ups by blazerw11 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Republicans don't care about people outside the U.S. Have you not been paying attention?! :)

    The above was meant to be humorous toward the parent poster and a slight slam against our conservative leadership, which, if I may make an intelligent argument here, suck.

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    A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James
  21. Swiss law is open-source, kind-of... by DrYak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I will probably read the swiss stuff and think about it

    In a way swiss law are open source : at least the voting document always come with the exact text of the law you're going to vote for.
    Same can't be said about amercan politicians

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