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Congress To Force Cable a la Carte Plans

unassimilatible writes "Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain seems to be leaning towards sponsoring legislation mandating something I have wanted for a long time: Forcing cable companies to offer "a la carte" programming packages. No U.S. cable or satellite currently offers such a plan. However, as the Washington Post reports, "That may change, if some lawmakers and consumer groups get their way, as the cable industry finds itself under increasing scrutiny. Lawmakers report that their constituents are angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation since the industry was largely deregulated in 1996." McCain money quote: "I go down to buy a loaf of bread. I don't have to buy broccoli and milk to go with it." Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly, so maybe they need to recieve government-mandated "innovation." Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?"

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  1. evil cable companies by swschrad · · Score: 3, Interesting

    unbundle everything except the local channels now! McCain is right.

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    1. Re:evil cable companies by mig0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think you're right.

      I also think that some channels that are less popular will simply get removed, regardless of the wishes of the fans of _those_ networks feel, which can be unfortunate if you happen to be a fan of that network. I may not care about HGTV but what if it were more popular than Boomerang? Which channel is going to get dropped first to make way for another channel?

  2. Do this for DirecTV by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd like to see it set up so I can pick and choose each and every channel, preferably via an onscreen check list at the set top box. And if there's something I want to see on a channel I don't normally have, I can order it just for that program right at the box.

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  3. Cable companies now have no excuse by strictnein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A big problem for cable companies is that they now have no real excuse to not have plans like this. Before digital cable they could at least claim some technological difficulties in setting up such a system. Now I would guess that it would involve minor changes to their infrastructure and users should easily be able to add or remove channels directly through their cable box.

  4. I couldn't have said this better myself... by jbuilder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?


    Don't get me wrong - I have NO problem with access to any of those channels, but what *I* have wanted for *years* is for cable (and satellite) companies to provide me with the content *I* want at a reasonable price. Not charge me for a 120 channels because that's the only way I can see the 20 that I actually *want*.

    I wouldn't mind so much IF cable wasn't so expensive. I looked from switching back from Dish Network to my local cable co.. The price I pay for *everything* that's available on my line-up is US$89/mo. via Dish Network. I wanted to get the local channels in HDTV. But to do that I'd have to switch back to cable. To switch back to cable, and keep my current channel lineup would have been US$170/mo!!! And that's not including the HDTV support...! To add insult - my local cable co (Comcast) doesn't *have* as many channels as Dish Network does.

    The Dish Network ads are right - cable cos. *are* pigs...

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  5. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by maroberts · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The point is, it's not a free market economy. One cable provider ahs a monopoly in your area, so its his cable service, or nothing. A free market economy would have multiple cable providers in an area.

    But then the concrete on your roads would nver set for cable companies laying down cable. And the investment is too high for too many competitors. So the market has to be as free as possible. And freedom to choose what to buy is the best answer in the circumstances.

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  6. Technical Nightmare by jratcliffe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While we'd all like a la carte pricing of cable, it's a nightmare from a technical point of view. The only possible way to do it would be to require everyone to have a digital box - trying to do this in analog simply wouldn't be feasible (i.e. try filtering 100-106Mhz out, allowing 106-112Mhz, filtering out 112-124Mhz, allowing 124-130Mhz, etc. - each cable tap would have dozens of filters, and each would push the limits of what passive filters can actually do).

    Therefore, we're talking requiring a digital box for each customer, and every single TV set - that alone will tack $5+ per TV onto everyone's monthly cable bill (digital boxes are ~$150-200 and up.

    You'd probably also end up with a lot of marginal channels going off the air (outside of Slashdot, how many folks will actually _pay_ for TechTV on an a la carte basis?).

  7. Re:Of course there is a "market" for this by Omega1045 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Think of it in more generic terms instead of television. What about the fact that Cox (which they are, BTW) in my area is the only high-speed Internet provider. I HAVE to buy cable TV from them to get the bandwidth I need. Why? I really want this a la carte!

    but you TV-addicts are the ones fueling the market

    I am really sorry I enjoy watching movies, TLC, TechTV, etc. I wish I could be cool and liberated like you, Anonymous Coward. Sorry if I get a flamebait outa that. I just couldn't get through Sunday without my Simpsons/Sopranos fix.

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  8. Re:Why a big government solution? by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Actually, the government does allow competing cable companies. The 1984 deregulation law that allowed this is also the main reason rates are so high. It eliminated the local monopoly, but also eliminated local authorities' power to set rates. The idea was that new cable companies would move in, and the market would set the rates. Problem is, nobody wanted to spend a lot of money to build redundant cable systems in the vague hope of wooing away existing cable customers. So the cable companies get to have it both ways: they're a competitive business for regulary purposes, but in the actual marketplace, they're monopolies.

    Well, there's satellite. Which doesn't seem to be competition enough.

  9. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by keep_it_simple_stupi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, they are not. In southeast michigan, most homes can choose between Comcast and Wide Open West. I realize this is rare, but it's great. We can pit them against each other on our bills. Instead of $35 for basic cable, you can haggle them down to $20. Another cool thing is that Wide Open West has speed tiers for their cable modems - $50 / month gets you a slow cablem modem and full basic cable. Not bad really.

    However, it would be nice to get HD service from either of them with a cable modem at a decent speed for under $100 / month. Ugh - slave to electronics.

  10. Not only that... by Chordonblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How exactly is this going to solve the problem of companies like Viacom charging for their own package deals? You all realize of course that this is how it works for cablecos as well?

    I'm all for choice, but this will in no way affect the PROVIDERS of the entertainment. The American public has already shown a willingness to basically pay whatever they have to for their entertainment (look at ticket prices to any event nowadays for proof!) The program providers know this and so no matter what the cablecos do to split up channel selections, THEY will still pay out the ass.

    Now THAT'S 'reality television' for you...

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  11. Yep... Case in point - by Chordonblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My parents were going to discontinue their cable service but are litterally in a 'rock in a hard place' as far as picking up any local stations on rabbit ears.

    Nonetheless, my dad made the call and was informed that there was an unadvertised package for $15/month that would give them basic local and a few other channels. They called it the 'basic-basic' plan or some such garbage. I guess it was a way to keep people like my parents for leaving completely.

    The cablecos know their pricing is out of hand, but the fact is, the PROVIDERS of the channels are equally blameworthy, if not more so.

    Viacom: "Tell ya what. We'll give you VH2, MTV2 and 3, and the Munchkin Channel as part of our package deal!"

    Comcast Exec: "Yeah, but all we really want is VH2 and MTV 2 and 3..."

    Viacom: "Ah, so sorry. These channels only come as a package... Say! Would you like some Food Channel to go along with that?"

    Frustrating indeed!

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  12. Charging by channel? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Maybe the whole idea of charging by the channel is fundamentally flawed. To really match the costs to benefits of cable service, it might be better to charge by the minute. That way, the people who use the service more pay more, and the people who use it less pay less. It could be set up like most other utilities, with a base rate to cover overhead, and various per-minute rates depending on channel, time of day, etc. Everybody could always access any channel, but they would pay the corresonding per-minute charge to watch.

    Of course, the problem with this is the cable companies' tendency to price gouge. However, maybe something as simple as mandating that the cable box always display an accurate real-time running count of the day's viewing charges might counteract this. Since most people are basically cheap, they'll shut off the service if they see the day's total go over a couple of bucks. This would put pressure on the cable providers to keep the charges reasonable.

    Another approach might be to give billing control over the various channels directly to the upstream provider. The current cable company would only handle the physical infrastructure, with their costs covered by the base rate. The content providers would compete against each other on price for the individual channels that people watch. This could work kind of like the current arrangement for competition in long-distance phone service, where you choose among long-distance services that are brought to you via your local phone company.

  13. Re:My thumb thanks you by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A channel with poor ratings will be pulled off the air regardless. However ratings might lie, a channel to which no one subscribes will be pulled off the air. Want to keep that channel alive? Subscribe to it, whether you watch it or not. If enough others do the same, it will live. If not, there was not sufficient public interest, let's try that channel's theme again in five years and see if it flies.

    If I paid $3/channel I actually watched my cable bill would be about 1/4 the amount it used to be for basic digital. Sounds great to me.

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  14. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by MotherInferior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I better make this quick before the Mod-sharks bork my opinions again.

    You bring up a valid issue, one that most of the leftists here are incapable of listening to. It is possible, however difficult, to keep things on the local level. Cable companies deal with the local goverments, and this is how they keep their monopolies. Take the fight to the city council, and you can see real change.

    Take the fight to Washington, and you get Federalization, more hegemony, more collusion. Do you actually think that John McCain gives a flying crap about your cable bills? The man probably hasn't paid a cable bill in 20 years (if ever). He's interested in maintaining the relationship he has with the Time-Warners and Comcasts of the world. Do you really think he'd knowingly sabotage that relationship, just so you can watch Dick Van Dyke re-runs for $10 less a month?

    Please. You want Uncle Sam to stop playing with the Big Boys of Wall Street? Then, YOU stop playing with them. I haven't watched cable TV in 7 years. I find my news and entertainment elsewhere. What would happen if most Americans did that, hmm? The Big Boys wouldn't be quite so Big, would they?

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  16. More for all channels, but not the point... by digitalamish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure if you got the same number of channels it would be the same price, but if you only picked up the channels you want, it may make the cost go down for the consumer. I'm sure someone else really wants all of the religious/CSPAN/Oxygen network choices, but I don't. It might also force some networks to reevaluate. MTV, for instance, might take note if 50% of their viewers dropped MTV and MTV2 picked up.

    Honestly, out of the 100 channels you get, how many do you spend more than a fraction of a second surfing past? I probably only watch 20% of the channels I get. If the rates were to double for all of basic cable, but I only paid for the 20% I wanted, I'm still saving.

    One downside I see is that networks could become like TV shows. If it doesn't perform well in the first year, it'll get pulled for something else.

    1. Re:More for all channels, but not the point... by Znork · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Honestly, out of the 100 channels you get, how many do you spend more than a fraction of a second surfing past? I probably only watch 20% of the channels I get."

      And, honestly, how many percent of the programming on those channels do you watch? So, why should we have to pay for the rest of the crap that's on?

      Why not just skip the middle men and just buy the content we want?

  17. Regional monopoly by SunPin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The correct term is "regional monopoly". It applies to phone companies, Department stores (i.e., target/Wal-Mart & home depot/Lowe's) and cable companies.

    Look at a map. Companies know that 95% of people live and die within 10 miles of their home so it's easy to carve out territories.

    Buyers like competition but sellers do not. If everyone agrees to keep their distance, everybody makes money. In the South where development is basically new (~30 years) this is a rock solid law of nature. Major corporations stay close enough to carry the banner of free markets but far enough away to make money.

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    1. Re:Regional monopoly by nial-in-a-box · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You are right that the costs are high, but they are not prohibitive. Also, these costs are not created by the current "monopoly" but rather by the inherent fact that these things cost money. I live in a rather poor neighborhood in Chicago, and I can choose between two different cable companies in my building. It used to be three but there was a merger. If costs were truly prohibitive, there wouldn't be such a choice.

      I really don't know how much profit cable companies take from monthly service charges, especially compared to similar services such as satellite or cell phones. But as has been written before, cable programming is just "bait" for the advertisements. The money you pay each month for cable is seen as a connection charge to the cable company. This can be loosely compared to how we pay for an internet connection but that payment is not for the content (in most cases) but rather for the connection. Free content on the web is paid for by advertising, much how TV works. Premium, ad-free content on the web requires payment in some form, much like cable channels such as HBO and Cinemax.

      What this all means is that the cable companies cannot in any practical means charge you significantly less monthly if you choose not to have certain channels. This means that while there may be a law passed to require custom packages, this same law will not cut your cable bill in half by any means. I could see cable companies offering a flat connection charge of say $30 a month and then a certain charge for each channel added to the package. Different channels might cost different amounts. As you can see here, you may end up paying more to achieve about the same amount of decent programming you had originally. You may only have 4 favorite channels, that's how I am, but I find that having more options is often better. yes, half of the channels do suck, but who cares?

      Ultimately, the best solution for dealing with high cable bills is to call up customer service and explain that you cannot afford the rate any more. They'll usually cut your bill down considerably for a year and then you can renegotiate later.

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  18. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by Ayaress · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My city has been taking it to the city council about our cable company for TWENTY-SEVEN YEARS. They were fighting Cox before I was born - hell, back when having cable was a social status symbol and most people around here didn't even know what the local cable company was, the city council was listening to people fighting the cable companies almost every week.

    What's it gotten us? Not damn shit. Bresnan bought Cox, Charater bought Bresnan, and each one proceedes to screw us harder than the last one, and more people went to the city council to complain.

    So, we ran a referrendum. It passed overwhelmingly, and we kicked Bresnan out in favor of Nova (who, at the time, offered 50 channels for $25 a month, compared to Bresnan's 30 channels for $35)

    Guess what happened? Bresnan bought Nova, and we got fucked again - as did everybody up in Gladwin county who already had Nova for their cable. We got our 20 extra channels, but we also got another fifteen bucks a month on our bill instead of ten off.

    Last year, Charter cut seven channels and increased the price by $8. This year, they're planning to cut two channels and add one that will soon be merging with a channel we already get anyway, and they've already tacked $5 on the bill, with $10 more comming this summer.

  19. Who watches MTV? by Gruneun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MTV, for instance, might take note if 50% of their viewers dropped MTV and MTV2 picked up.

    Except, MTV is mostly viewed by the people in a household who are not the ones paying the cable bill. A sudden drop in subscribers could just as easily be explained by parents angrily dropping the channel, giving MTV back its "rebel" status and making it even more appealing to the younger crowd... you know, the ones with the disposable income.

    If you don't believe me, look at VH1, a channel that plays much more music, appeals to an older crowd, lives under the same umbrella... and doesn't come close in ratings or revenue.