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Subdomains Part Of The Patent Frenzy

Colonel Angus writes "Web Hosting Industry is carrying a story about a company called Ideaflood that has been sending out letters to web hosting firms claiming that they own a patent on subdomains and are claiming a license needs to be purchased to continue to use them. This is reminding me of the hyperlink patent from a couple years back." Maybe Frank Weyer will ask them to wrestle.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  2. Patenting an RFC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    prior art = November 1987

    And in other news, tomorrow, I'm patenting the misspelling of referrer in electronic comunication.

  3. They can have this one. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    kiss.my.org

    1. Re:They can have this one. by nfras · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you realise that you could register a similar domain in the Cook Islands and have kiss.my.co.ck?

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  4. Just ridiculous... by bc90021 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    "Business method patents that cover software programs weren't legal until a few years ago," Dicig says, "so there is no comprehensive way for the PTO to search for software and computer-related technology that's already been invented, other than that described in patents and published applications. For instance, if the patent office didn't know about WordPerfect 1, it could issue a patent on word processing because it has no way to know that word processing was already invented."

    I'm sorry, but this is just a ridiculous argument. Firstly, the USPTO must use technology to some degree, so if someone visited "news.yahoo.com" two years before this patent was ever issued, they've got their prior art right there.

    Secondly, what kind of organisation is restricted to only doing research with its own prior body of work? Can you imagine if every doctor in the country called the CDC when they saw their first flu patient? (Doctor: Quick! There's this new disease I've never seen before and it completely debilitates the patient!)

    As I said, just ridiculous.

  5. Burn! by JustinXB · · Score: 5, Funny
    I just filed a patent for the process of patenting things.

    I stand to gain millions. Invest in me now or fear my wrath when I have a laser death canon on the mooon!

  6. The future of patents by Openstandards.net · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Does anyone see this rising to a boiling point anytime soon? When will people start lobbying for patent reform?

    I've read comments on this subject from IBM, the largest patent holder in the world, indicating they might even endorse patent reform. Their stance has been that they use patents primarily as a defense, adding that until the system is fixed, they don't have much of a choice.

    This is also putting a rush to patent everything, worse than a gold rush, not so much to profit like these annoying cases, but to build a defense, like IBM does. Only, as we all know, the little guy has little defense. Thus there is both a chill and imbalance on innovation today.

    Is anyone lobbying congress for patent reform? I'd like to know what we can do.

  7. Re:Over and Over and Over by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with the patent office is the same problem we have: They can't be experts in everything.

    The reason software patents makes me sick is because although I can keep track of whether or not I'm copying from anyone, I can't keep track of all the possibilities of all the patents I may someday be accused of violating.

    The patent office itself has the same problem. They can tell if someone else patented the same thing (did they copy?) but they simply don't have resources to tell if some technical thing has ever occured before.

    Sure, we all know about domains, but we're computer nerds. Most people in the patent office could probably not make that claim, just as they couldn't claim to be automobile designers or materials scientists.

    TW

  8. Re:Isn't that how DNS WORKS? by LittleBigLui · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh my GOD! The patented DNS!

    You Bastards!

    I won't pay. No, no, no. Anyone got a complete /etc/hosts for me?

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  9. Re:Over and Over and Over by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah, but you miss an important point - USPTO grants patents because its also a source of income (and a pretty good one at that).

    Its not their duty to make sure that its upheld - if its not, its _your_ problem - as an applicant.

    However, within the limited scope of their resources (and intellect), they issue as many patents as they can simply because they can. If its a bad one, its going to be dragged to court at some point or the other and shot dead. If not, great, you have great IP on your hands.

    Ofcourse, I can see the flaw in this that corporates can bully the less powerful - but hey! Thats corporate Amerika for you.

  10. Re:Over and Over and Over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's an article on the Foundation for Programming Freedom by Richard Stallman titled 'Anatomy of a Trivial Patent'. Read this and you will see how people sneak these patents past the PO.

  11. Did even ONE of you RTFA??? by humanerror · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obviously, the submitter didn't bother any more than any of you to follow through to the source...

    The patent is for an automated procedure for licensing sub-domain names via an Internet portal , not on subdomains - the submitter's claim is considerably more absurd than the patent claim, no matter your views on software and business model patents.

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  12. Something else interesting... by glitch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Try going to http://www.ideaflood.com/youre_a_bunch_of_asswipes

    I think their 404 page is broken =]

  13. EV1? by xcfmx · · Score: 5, Funny

    How long until EV1-Servers buys a license to protect its customers?

  14. Re:Over and Over and Over by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Excellent point.

    The solution then, is to sue the crap out of USPTO. No, I don't mean just overturn the patent. That's a lose-lose. You pay money to undo the idiocy. I mean to go to court and say "The USPTO's negligence cost me money. I want reparation, and I want punitive damages."

    Hell, given the scope of patents, it's begging for a class action. And I think we may have found a contender.

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  15. You can't sue the gov't unless it lets you by kuma_act · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, this is a true statement. The doctrine of sovereign immunity protects the government from being sued unless it allows the suit. This is a pretty complex subject, so I'll try to make this as "user-friendly" as I can. The Federal Government and the governments of the individual states are protected from suit unless they allow it. In order to allow the suit, the legislative body (Congress, state assembly, etc.) has to pass a law allowing the suit. Most states and the Federal Government have passed statutes that allow you to sue them under specified circumstances, i.e., for specified types of claims (civil rights violations, tort claims, breach of contract claims), but only if you comply with strict notice requirements. If you don't comply with the requirements of the statute, your case gets thrown out because of sovereign immunity. So I guess the answer really is "You can sue the government, but only if they let you."