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Making A Better Browser History

jbtule writes "Students at the University of Illinois have released TrailBlazer, a new user interface to represent your web browsing history. It lays out the pages you visit in a simple 2D map with thumbnails and summaries. The project took 2nd place at the university's annual Engineering Open House and a three minute video is available that demonstrates TrailBlazer for those who don't have Mac OS X Panther. TrailBlazer is implemented with Apple's WebKit on a bare bones browser, but this interface would probably be more useful if it were added to a real browser. This is a much better history than chronological lists of web page titles or crazy cubes floating around a 3D space. Hopefully Safari or /insert favorite web browser/ will do something similar in the future."

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  1. prolly not by aixou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People may find immense visual interaction to be more appealing at first, but ime it can get cumbersome very fast.
    My history is just that -- history.

    If I want to go to a page I was already at, I'll most likely know when I went to it and can easily find it. This contrasts with Expose which helps you visually organize files currently being used.

    I can see this having it's benefits (when I really need to find a poorly titled page), but I highly doubt it will redefine any standards.

  2. Information Overload by Yeep4711 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a nice tool, but what do you actually do with tons of browsing history? Most of the pages I visit have content that is changing frequently or content that I only need to check once. It's not very often that I need a particular page I visited days ago. And if that really happens Google is my friend.

  3. Innovation by peterdaly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The common way of working with a browser history function is manytimes a frusturating experience.

    It's bad to the point of borderline broken. Hopefully there are no IP issues (in the property sense), and this may lead to improvements making usinging browser history less like pulling teeth.

    -Pete

  4. Tracking the links they've visited in the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That's exactly what this browser makes far more manageable!

  5. Very nice by groomed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It looks beautiful. So bloody obvious! Amazing nobody has figured this out before. I'm reminded of something a former boss of mine used to say: "It took 80 years after the invention of the printing press for someone to figure out page numbers are a good iea."

    Really, I could probably come up with a whole range of criticisms, but why? This is a great idea. Practical, obvious, useful. The most negative thing I can say about this is probably that I feel sorry for the inventors. They'll probably be forgotten after Microsoft and the Mozilla foundation have released their own unspeakably crude and complexified implementations.

  6. Re:Opera's History by swapsn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, both F4 in Opera & Ctrl-H in FireFox are quite good.

    But the problem is that the search is based on URL and page title. This becomes a problem if I am searching for some interesting bit on the web page, which is totally unrelated to the title (or the URL).

    Free text search can help, but visual search seems to be much more intuitive. Or probably a combination of free text search and visual scanning...

    I faced this problem sometime back, when I came across a very funny quote on a random web page. I was completely stumped when searching for the quote again some days later. The problem was excaberated by the fact that I didn't even remember the quote :(

  7. and then patent it by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hopefully Safari or /insert favorite web browser/ will do something similar in the future. And the organization who owns that browser will then patent the technology and own IP rights over it. It's an inevitability with the current business practices right now.

  8. Re:Opera's History by sporty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does opera show you thumbnails or just a list of links? How does it show that you clicked from a-b-c then from a-d? Is there a way to see what a page looked like w/o clicking on the url?

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  9. But no history mechanism for students? by Bazzargh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This paper reviews history mechanisms in web browsers back in '97. One of the mechanisms mentioned, MosaicG is stunningly similar to the work in this article.

    MosaicG was released in 1995.

    It's interesting though that Tauscher's paper (the first link) conlcuded back then that the 'stack based' histories we used were not optimal, mainly because sibling history branches disappear. She found that the best method tested was to have a 'context sensitive web subset', ie a graph showing the relationships between visited nodes in relation to the current node, rather than a strict history.

  10. A modest suggestion by dborod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be really cool if TrailBlazer we able to integrate with Safari rather than act as a stand alone browser. If TrailBlazer was able to follow your trail by parsing Safari's cache it would be totally awesome. As it is now, TrailBlazer is a cool novelty, but as a browser it lacks many of the features most modern web users use.

  11. What safari isn't meant to be by adzoox · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The more code that is added to Safari the more unstable and slower it can get.

    This sounds like a great feature, but like tabs (which is very helpful) - few people will use it to it's potential.

    I think Apple needs to concentrate on being faster and more stable - I really even wish they would remove some features from Safari - when explaining ANY browser nowadays to my LEAP program classes (who are mostly elderly) - it is difficult, at best, to explain ALL the features - something you HAVE to do so they won't be confused and know where to go to set preferences, etc...

    I also would like Apple to remember thet their core is only as good as the bushel - meaning - I would like Apple to realize that Opera, iCab, and Ominiweb give Apple the appearance of broader support - therefore, these should be features for those browsers to integrate - features people should want to pay for if they use them.

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  12. Can you say "bloated and cumbersome"? by Walkiry · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I knew you could. Browsing History has to be one of the most useless features in a browser. The only thing they're good for is to remind you of links you've already visited (you know, just in case you have fish memory and can't remember if you clicked something a few minutes/hours ago), and for auto-complete of URLs. And the first one is not even that useful since nowadays, with the advent of DSL and cable, clicking a link doesn't involve almost a minute of loading bad HTML like with a 28.8 Kbps modem.

    I don't think I've clicked that "history" button in months. Of course, it could be my fish memory too :D

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  13. Re:Filter Google results using browser history by azzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Er.. so a google search, but without using google's massive database of sites. Just searching your own history? Er.. then it isn't really much of a google search is it.

  14. Re:Who actually uses their browser history? by bay43270 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't remember the last time I used mine. Is this a solution in search of a problem or do people actually use their histories?

    I think you just hit on the problem. I don't use my history either. Most of the time its easier to find a page you've been to by typing in what you remember into google. If our browsers were a better tool, maybe we wouldn't have to rely on google to find things that are already on our hard drive.

    Most usability problems aren't obvious until they're fixed. Hopefully, trailblazer has found one.

  15. Re:The cyberspatial compass by mblase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    sounds like something that will consume enormous amounts of CPU and memory, while at the same time causing the browser history to display about 75% less information on the screen, in 4 times the space.

    I'd agree, if this weren't built using OS X Panther. This browser history map uses thumbnails (and if those thumbnails aren't resizable, they should be in the next version) and simple arrows, probably using the same basic technology as iPhoto 4 does. OS X handles resizable icons and thumbnails as part of the underlying OS; they probably didn't have to create nearly as much code as you might expect.

    a more useful implementation could rely on intelligently excerpting web pages, and tracking things like "did I submit a form here" or "did I start a download from this page"... the things we're really trying to remember when visiting our browsing history.

    If you submitted a form on page A, then page A+1 will usually indicate that you've done so in some way (at least if the UI designers did their job). I don't think it'll be that hard to deduce if you've downloaded a file from a particular page, either, since it's usually the visual thumbnail of the page you remember rather than the data you got after visiting it.

    visual representations are often a crutch for when we simply cannot come up with anything else.

    I hope you were using a text-only web browser and a command-line OS when you wrote that. If GUIs are a crutch, then nearly every computer user for the last twenty years is a permanent cripple.

  16. Just like sequence diagrams... by paithuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this winds up being too large to show any useful information in a reasonable area (i.e. the size of a screen). I would have thought that expose would be a better solution to this problem...

  17. Re:The cyberspatial compass by skirch · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You make a couple good points, but that last line really bugs me. Are you serious? I know what you mean: people use charts and graphs in situations they shouldn't. But you should qualify that by pointing out that it's only because people don't use them properly. I can go on and on about my data all day long, or I could show you a picture, and you could understand instantly. (You might say that without a paragraph of explanation, you'd never be able to understand the graphic, but the original version has a couple sentences to describe what you're looking at. As a crutch, shall we say, to the graphic.)

    What about a system that combines a thumbnail of the site with your excerpt and statistics? If I'm looking for a site that I recently visited, it's going to save me a lot of time if I can look for that bright green background I remember instead of reading a synopsis for each site...

  18. Thumbnails -> Colours -> I Win! by Vagary · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know if this is a personal quirk of mine or if other people share similar cognitive function, but I remember colours better than anything else. No matter what else I remember about a webpage, I always remember its background colour. Therefore the thumbnails would be invaluable to me when I'm trying to find that page I saw with a white background and a big pic that was pinkish-white (Caucasian skintone) with a red dot in the middle.

  19. Merge bookmarks and history by TuringTest · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The next step in this trend is merging bookmarks and history in a single interface. I've never seen the point in having separate panels for bookmarks and history when they are clearly related to the same task: bringing back pages that I know I've already visited.

    A hierarchical (and usually enormous) tree of bookmarks is a broken, broken, broken concept. I spend more time searching a bookmark I know I have, that looking for it in Google. That means something: Google is a better tool than bookmarks.

    What I'd like to have is a powerful, a-la-Google context search of my history: I don't want to save "bookmarks", I want to drag predefined "keywords" onto TrailBlazer's history thumbnails; so that when I later select a keyword, all pages that I've marked are retrieved in their full browsing context.

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    1. Re:Merge bookmarks and history by brusk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sounds like a good idea but isn't. There are lots of times I have a site bookmarked that I *KNOW* I will need again, but only irregularly. Perfect example: a site with information useful for preparing my income tax. It won't be sitting in my history because I only go there once a year (right about now, better get cracking on that...), but if I google it I'd just end up having to pick through dozens, even thousands, of similar sites to find the one I need. As it is, I have a Business -> Taxes section in my bookmarks, and the bookmark sits there waiting to be used every April. Exactly as it should be.

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  20. Re:The cyberspatial compass by Doooh_head · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Are you talking about what alot of laptops currently have for a "mouse"? That square panel you slide your finger over? I HATE those damn things!

    I hope I see in my lifetime a "mouse-less" revolution take place, where (perhaps) the cursor on screen is controled not by one of our hands, but by our eyes. Ya, that's the ticket!

    It has always pissed me off to have to switch your one hand from the mouse to the keyboard. Thats why I make the attempt to learn the keystrokes for common activities, in whatever application I am using, instead of relying on the mouse alternatives. Using the mouse slows you down!

    Gee I miss command lines...:-\

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