"No voter can verify that his vote was properly handled, kept anonymous, and counted accurately in any electronic voting system."
You say this like its something unique to e-voting. There is really no guarantee that once you stuff your ballot in that box that it will be properly handled, kept anonymous and counted properly. If you believe that, then that is your first mistake.
"The chance that Brasil reverts to some form of dictatorship is quite a bit greater than the same thing happening in the US, or most western european states."
LOL How would you even know if it happened in the US or not? By listening to Fox news? LOL
Believe me, if such a thing was possible, no one in the US would even notice.
**That's my "ignorance of the day" **
This "example" of online voting has got to be one of the dumbest ever conceived. Don't let this be the rule by which you judge online voting. You don't need to spread your ignorance. There's already enough out there!
Why do people think that paper ballots are automatically better than any form of electronic voting? "Because thats the way we've done it for years and years" And how has that worked out for ya? I'm sure you've never heard of stuffing the ballot box or of mishandling of the ballot boxes, losing ballots, miss-reading of the ballots. Paper ballots have just as many problems as you can cite "e-voting" supposedly has.
You can't judge "e-voting" by these buffoons using PDF's as a secure ballot. Must have been bought and paid for by Adobe. Go out and educate yourself on what is actually out there and available with regards to "e-voting", try it out, have your government, PTA, Union whatever, try it out. How many of you guys out there spewing how bad e-voting is do online banking, or have bought something from eBay? Do you use bank machines, how secure are they? Everyday just about everyone with a bank card uses it in some way or another either online or in some flakey ATM or a bank machine somewhere. Your (supposed) money is nothing but a few binary 1's and 0's somewhere in some banks' mainframes. If "e-banking" is good enough for ya then why isn't "e-voting"? Its got, or at least should have at least the same security banking has, if done correctly.
Ignorance. Not in the rude-sense. Just pure "I don't know anything about it, so I am going to piss on it with all my heart and I can't stand change, its new so I don't like it" ignorance.
All I can say is that I've at least tried "e-voting". It seemed fine to me. "Well how do you know your vote was actually cast for the person you chose?" I don't know. Do we ever really know with paper ballots that the ballot actually got counted, correctly? We may stuff that paper ballot into the ballot box but there is still no guarantee that it actually got counted, ever. You shouldn't fool yourself into thinking that the people working the elections don't necessarily have their own agenda's with regards to voting and the outcome of the election. Every bad thing you can imagine has already been done with regards to paper ballots and counting them etc.
It was great sitting at home in my nice comfy chair during a late October storm. The wind and rain blustering about. Me with my laptop sitting on my lap and me voting for Mayor, online. Done in minutes. Didn't have to go out, didn't get wet, didn't miss my Grand daughters first steps. I'm just happy that I live in a fairly progressive city where doing "e-voting" is just one of the perks.
Anybody know how many Municipalities in Ontario Canada are doing "e-voting" this October? Many. Guess how many are using PDF's as secure ballots? Zero (AFAIK!)
"I fail to see what's wrong with saying "Use Linux", it's a simple honest straightforward answer that is effective. Just because you don't like the solution doesn't invalidate it. And perhaps you should consider what that is the correct solution so often..."
The whole issue of spyware/adware really has nothing to do with Linux does it? NO! So to tell someone who knows absolutely nothing about Linux, to switch from what they do know (Windows) to it, really isn't helping. "...Believe it or not they don't MEAN for the spyware to disable and render your pc damn near useless, kill your browser, etc..."
How do you know? Are you one of "them"? I can appreciate whats involved in creating some of this crap and in most cases its not trivial (sorry I'm not the "uber-geek" like yourself). There is a certain amount of knowledge that is required. Alot of typical developers don't necessarily know or have that knowledge.
Ya and maybe in your world people will be required to have a license to walk down the street, otherwise some shit-head with a sniper rifle might pick you off just for fun!! Elitist?? Hell ya!
Someone should offer a reward to anyone who can come up with a completely successful way of:
1 - Blocking spyware from being downloaded and installed EVER (aside from simply saying "Use Linux"), and
2 - Completely cleaning already infected machines/browsers/etc, and
3 - Hunting down the developers of all of this crap and them.
It pisses me off knowing there are many hard-core intelligent software developers out there creating this crap!
They all should suffer!
The community should find them, like they do for child-molesters, and berate them and publically thrash them.
For some reason, whenever I see ANYTHING about Star Trek, I recall the original glory days of the show being on TV, but now, 30 years later, I think "Get a frickin' life"! It was a good show, but I couldn't give a flyin' 'frig about getting them on DVD...
I guess thats just me...
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When I switched from the IBM mainframe environment to DOS, I took a DOS port of a mainframe editor with me. We used to use XEdit on the mainframe, but used KEdit on DOS. That was a nice editor...
wouldn't that suck badly for quake3? there's a few applications for which you don't follow the mouse pointer with your eyes.
Perhaps you're right. For games there needs to be a different, better controller. It just frustrates the hell out of me having to move my hand from my mouse to the keyboard, over and over.
Wow, I'm starting to sound like a broken record...Doooh!
Are you talking about what alot of laptops currently have for a "mouse"? That square panel you slide your finger over? I HATE those damn things!
I hope I see in my lifetime a "mouse-less" revolution take place, where (perhaps) the cursor on screen is controled not by one of our hands, but by our eyes. Ya, that's the ticket!
It has always pissed me off to have to switch your one hand from the mouse to the keyboard. Thats why I make the attempt to learn the keystrokes for common activities, in whatever application I am using, instead of relying on the mouse alternatives. Using the mouse slows you down!
Looks cool and everything, but just from viewing the demo, the biggest problem with it is that it will potentially consume soooo much desktop space that hardware developers will have to come up with some way of scrolling left and right in addition to up and down, just to accomodate seeing everything as efficiently as possible. Scrolling is a big pain in the @$$, thats why they came up with a "wheel mouse". Whats next, a "2-wheel mouse"? Hey haven't I seen that before???
Everything on Apple's "wants" to be graphical. Thats its roots, but until viewable screen realestate increases, to me, it is just useless!
Sorry, but no matter what the WTO thinks, the US *IS* International Trade Law. The worlds most important economy protected by the worlds biggest guns.
Wow, it is hard to beleive in this day and age that people still talk like this. When will it end? Perhaps when the US is totally segragated from the rest of the world...hmm I wonder what that would be like?
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"No voter can verify that his vote was properly handled, kept anonymous, and counted accurately in any electronic voting system."
You say this like its something unique to e-voting. There is really no guarantee that once you stuff your ballot in that box that it will be properly handled, kept anonymous and counted properly. If you believe that, then that is your first mistake.
"The chance that Brasil reverts to some form of dictatorship is quite a bit greater than the same thing happening in the US, or most western european states."
LOL How would you even know if it happened in the US or not? By listening to Fox news? LOL
Believe me, if such a thing was possible, no one in the US would even notice. **That's my "ignorance of the day" **
This "example" of online voting has got to be one of the dumbest ever conceived. Don't let this be the rule by which you judge online voting. You don't need to spread your ignorance. There's already enough out there!
Why do people think that paper ballots are automatically better than any form of electronic voting? "Because thats the way we've done it for years and years" And how has that worked out for ya? I'm sure you've never heard of stuffing the ballot box or of mishandling of the ballot boxes, losing ballots, miss-reading of the ballots. Paper ballots have just as many problems as you can cite "e-voting" supposedly has. You can't judge "e-voting" by these buffoons using PDF's as a secure ballot. Must have been bought and paid for by Adobe. Go out and educate yourself on what is actually out there and available with regards to "e-voting", try it out, have your government, PTA, Union whatever, try it out. How many of you guys out there spewing how bad e-voting is do online banking, or have bought something from eBay? Do you use bank machines, how secure are they? Everyday just about everyone with a bank card uses it in some way or another either online or in some flakey ATM or a bank machine somewhere. Your (supposed) money is nothing but a few binary 1's and 0's somewhere in some banks' mainframes. If "e-banking" is good enough for ya then why isn't "e-voting"? Its got, or at least should have at least the same security banking has, if done correctly. Ignorance. Not in the rude-sense. Just pure "I don't know anything about it, so I am going to piss on it with all my heart and I can't stand change, its new so I don't like it" ignorance. All I can say is that I've at least tried "e-voting". It seemed fine to me. "Well how do you know your vote was actually cast for the person you chose?" I don't know. Do we ever really know with paper ballots that the ballot actually got counted, correctly? We may stuff that paper ballot into the ballot box but there is still no guarantee that it actually got counted, ever. You shouldn't fool yourself into thinking that the people working the elections don't necessarily have their own agenda's with regards to voting and the outcome of the election. Every bad thing you can imagine has already been done with regards to paper ballots and counting them etc. It was great sitting at home in my nice comfy chair during a late October storm. The wind and rain blustering about. Me with my laptop sitting on my lap and me voting for Mayor, online. Done in minutes. Didn't have to go out, didn't get wet, didn't miss my Grand daughters first steps. I'm just happy that I live in a fairly progressive city where doing "e-voting" is just one of the perks. Anybody know how many Municipalities in Ontario Canada are doing "e-voting" this October? Many. Guess how many are using PDF's as secure ballots? Zero (AFAIK!)
OS/2 All the WAY! YAAAAAAAA! (I miss my OS/2...)
If you knew anything about this topic then you would have stated that you were going to go and read something from IBM, NOT Microsoft.
"I fail to see what's wrong with saying "Use Linux", it's a simple honest straightforward answer that is effective. Just because you don't like the solution doesn't invalidate it. And perhaps you should consider what that is the correct solution so often..."
The whole issue of spyware/adware really has nothing to do with Linux does it? NO! So to tell someone who knows absolutely nothing about Linux, to switch from what they do know (Windows) to it, really isn't helping.
"...Believe it or not they don't MEAN for the spyware to disable and render your pc damn near useless, kill your browser, etc..."
How do you know? Are you one of "them"? I can appreciate whats involved in creating some of this crap and in most cases its not trivial (sorry I'm not the "uber-geek" like yourself). There is a certain amount of knowledge that is required. Alot of typical developers don't necessarily know or have that knowledge.
Ya and maybe in your world people will be required to have a license to walk down the street, otherwise some shit-head with a sniper rifle might pick you off just for fun!! Elitist?? Hell ya!
1 - Blocking spyware from being downloaded and installed EVER (aside from simply saying "Use Linux"), and
2 - Completely cleaning already infected machines/browsers/etc, and
3 - Hunting down the developers of all of this crap and them.
It pisses me off knowing there are many hard-core intelligent software developers out there creating this crap!
They all should suffer!
The community should find them, like they do for child-molesters, and berate them and publically thrash them.
I guess thats just me...
Could it be the Recording industry wreaking its revenge?
You DO know about the missle in the CN Tower in Toronto don't you? (Canadian Bacon).
Perhaps you're right. For games there needs to be a different, better controller. It just frustrates the hell out of me having to move my hand from my mouse to the keyboard, over and over.
Wow, I'm starting to sound like a broken record...Doooh!
I hope I see in my lifetime a "mouse-less" revolution take place, where (perhaps) the cursor on screen is controled not by one of our hands, but by our eyes. Ya, that's the ticket!
It has always pissed me off to have to switch your one hand from the mouse to the keyboard. Thats why I make the attempt to learn the keystrokes for common activities, in whatever application I am using, instead of relying on the mouse alternatives. Using the mouse slows you down!
Gee I miss command lines...:-\
Everything on Apple's "wants" to be graphical. Thats its roots, but until viewable screen realestate increases, to me, it is just useless!
Been there done that, didn't buy the t-shirt!
Sorry, but no matter what the WTO thinks, the US *IS* International Trade Law. The worlds most important economy protected by the worlds biggest guns. Wow, it is hard to beleive in this day and age that people still talk like this. When will it end? Perhaps when the US is totally segragated from the rest of the world...hmm I wonder what that would be like?
Without Microsoft we'd be using OS/2...and IBM would be the "evil empire"!