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Making Things Easy Is Hard

paul.dunne writes "John Gruber of Daring Fireball has written a long and considered riposte to Eric Raymond's recent lament concerning the poor quality of user interfaces in free software. The core of his argument is that 'developing software with a good UI requires both aptitude and a lot of hard work.' One point that particularly struck me: according to Gruber, 'Unix nerds who care about usability are switching to Mac OS X in droves'!"

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  1. Windows by Bs15 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Making things hard is easy by Microsoft!

    1. Re:Windows by DaHat · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's cause they've got many years of experience some would say.

  2. Uh.. by handmedowns · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Unix nerds" who are switching to OSX are not Unix Nerds.. they're Unix Wannabe's that like aqua..

    chicks dig console...


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    1. Re:Uh.. by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 5, Funny
      sudo /usr/sbin/nvram boot-args="-v"

      Edit /etc/ttys. Uncomment the "/usr/libexec/getty" line, comment out the "/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app" one. Hasta la vista, Aqua.

      Check the attitude at the door. I worked with Solaris, SCO Unix, FreeBSD and Linux. Just because someone wants a nice environment doesn't make them a wannabee, it's called 'progress'. Same reason we don't sleep in caves anymore.

      Now, if you want to talk about what chicks really dig, you should check out the rack of SUN equipment under my bed. *fonz-style-thumbs-up*

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  3. Which type of easy! by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 3, Funny

    The type of easy that regular users can find everything in a snap or the kind of easy with big shiny icons that n00bs still have problems with?

    First people have to know what they want in order to get it. We can't solve stupidity and/or ignorance can we?

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  4. Re:Different strokes for different folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    (sig reply) And do you also file your toenails using a chainsaw?

  5. Making it easy? by needacoolnickname · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why make things easy when it is just so much more fun to create something that the user has to read pages of configuration instructions then go to a support forum where they can get laughed at and degraded for asking such a simple n00b question?

    Software isn't meant to be productive. It's meant to help people get a laugh at the expense of others.

  6. Re:UI Development is tough. by AJWM · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's okay, I just read it as "Interface Engineering".

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  7. Re:Article author needs a swift kick by MasonMcD · · Score: 3, Funny

    And we lived in a shoebox full of dirt, and ate ground glass... AND WE LIKED IT!

  8. Re:Article author needs a swift kick by moranar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to mention that with sentences such as "(Side note: parallel port? What year is it in the Raymond household?)" he's making fun of most of the Third World. You know, the ones that do not have all the money, and that think Open Source is a big advantage in terms of cost and narrowed "digital divide".

    I'm not complaining at you, of course, I'm bitching at the author and at some people in the OS community (*Cough* Havoc "who needs transparent window moving? Everyone has a powerful CPU" Pennington *Cough*).

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  9. Re:I wish I could agree by boredofthesane · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ducks? Ducks? Where? Oh my god ducks! NOOOO!! NOT DUCKS! NOOOO!!!!

  10. Re:oops be careful who you shit on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Typical Macinbot -- Mac OS X has the most intuitive GUI! -- Just press Command-Option-DoubleClick-Q!!! Way easier than Windows!

  11. Re:Productivity... how much is myth? by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

    I click "New Document" then I spend 2 hours writing then I click "Save".

    I hope your Auto-recovery works well.... ;)

    Kjella

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  12. Re:Learnability != Usability by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Notepad is, of course, more usable than vi.

    Because if notepad is open, I can quit it easily and go open medit. This takes me about 2 seconds.

    But if vi is open, I have to either flail at the keys trying to remember what the fucking exit sequence is, or just kill the job. Then I can go open medit. This takes me about 2 minutes.

    Therefore, notepad is both more usable and more learnable!

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  13. Re:I wish I could agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    AFLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC!!!!!

  14. Re:Absolutely ... for laptops by mlyle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes. You need to throw the battery away and buy a new one. :P

  15. Re:Here's What He Get's Wrong by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 2, Funny


    And yet Open Source is still churning out high quality software at a rate to make MS blush, and only a food would think that the quality of the Linux kernel was entirely about the number of developers working on it.


    When food can judge the quality of the linux kernal, that's the point where genetic modification has gone too far.

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