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Microsoft Preps 'Janus' Music Copy-Prevention Scheme

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft is expected to unveil copy-protection software this summer that will for the first time give portable digital music players access to rented tunes from all-you-can-eat subscription services -- a development that some industry executives believe will shake up the online music business." Janus is the Roman god of doorways, gates, passages, preventing people from copying music, etc.

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  1. History *will* repeat itself.. by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Pay for time limited, rental media? Has Circuit City's DIVX fiasco taught them nothing?

    If there were a demand for such an item I can see them working on it but the media companies try these silly schemes that have no consumer interest. Naturally they'll end up somehow blaming P2P for this system's inevitable failure.

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  2. More on Janus by spoonboy42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lest we forget, Janus is also two-faced.

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  3. Serious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Has Apple iTunes been hacked yet? As in giving people un-encrypted, un-watermarked AAC files?

    1. Re:Serious question by barthrh2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Steve Jobs knew this from the outset. Accorting to a Fortune article, he went to the labels and said "Look, we have some really smart people who know this drm stuff down cold, and you can't stop it. What makes it worse, is that once you have the key you can unlock every door". He used this as the justification for an uncomplicated scheme.

      Getting hacked would therefore come as no big surprise to Apple/Jobs. But when you add it up:
      Unlimited burns + no expiration + multiple devices + multiple computers = Not worth the trouble.

      The iTunes model is so open, there is little reason to hack it. Of those who would want to, you then have a subset of those with the skills to do so, and you end up with an insignificant number.

      The new MS model, with an expiration date, screams for a hack. But then again, there are a lot of time limited software demos, and I don't suppose that anyone tries to hack those...

  4. One Question by MrRuslan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you "disable it" by holding the shift key while inserting the cd?

  5. Perfect. by tm2b · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A two-faced god that claims to stand between the primitive and civilization, but is in fact just a product of the primitive superstition of a decrepit culture.

    Perfect.

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  6. Re:Are they kidding? by mlush · · Score: 5, Funny
    This will get hacked very quickly

    and the bettings good that the cracking program will be called Hugh allowing one to Hugh .....

  7. Re:Are they kidding? by dragoncortez · · Score: 5, Funny

    oh come on, the article says, "Janus would add a hacker-resistant clock to portable music players for files encoded in Microsoft's proprietary Windows Media Audio format." We all know that when Microsoft makes something hacker-resistant there's just no way to crack it.

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  8. Why Rent When You Can Own? by dslpwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I read the article this morning, and sent to some friends. I have multiple problems with it.

    1) I don't want to "rent" my music. I want to buy.

    2) I don't want my music in crappy WMA format.

    3) The tinfoil hat wearer in me sees this as a way for the music/software industries to indoctrinate the next generation of consumers with the idea that you don't "own" anything.

    As the sidebar in the article says "If fans of iPod-like devices can be convinced to drop the idea of owning song files, they could shift to paying a subscription fee for ongoing access ..."

    Pass.

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  9. High Cost of DRM... by SuperChuck69 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's kind of a naive question, perhaps, but is the cost of creating strong copy protection worth the savings in pirated items?

    Before MP3s were Satan, I had a stereo system (hi-fi for us old folks) that could easily "rip" CDs, records, or tapes to cheap portable media (blank tapes). It didn't seem to be an issue then...

    I would actually be very interested in an all-you-can-eat music subscription, provided it gave me files in the MP3 format. I have an MP3 player in my house, office, car, and person, but I don't have a Janus player anywhere!

    Stop spending all your money trying to stop me from sharing stuff, just sell me stuff I want.

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  10. Re:Are they kidding? by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 5, Funny

    This would be about as bright robbing a bank naked, in broad daylight, and using your own car as the getaway vehicle.

    Think about the kind of people who are reading this right now...

    Now picture them naked.

    Ok, now think about what kind of sick, twisted, perverse people are actually going to take a good look at those kind of naked people and ask yourself, "Do any of those sick, twisted or perverse people work at my bank".

    If the answer is no, then this might actually be a feasible plan...

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  11. original project name was changed... by JBG667 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and "J" was added, after marketing determined that it would divert the focus from the real purpose of the project...which is railing consumers up the rear end...

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  12. Absolutely Uncrackable DRM: Here's How by Didion+Sprague · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm surprised no one is mentioned that 100% uncrackable DRM: refusal to release.

    If more record companies would simply *NOT RELEASE* music, there would be nothing to crack. In fact, I'd urge record companies to examine this carefully. Take Janet Jackson, for example. If they *refused to release* 'Damita Jo' -- or, better yet, refused to record it -- there would be nothing to crack, nothing to leak, and no filesharing problem.

    The fact that record companies have recorded Damita Jo and actually released it indicates (to me, at least) that the record companies are as complicit in the problem as anyone else.

    My two cents.