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Microsoft WiX Code Released to SourceForge.Net

nberardi writes "On Monday, April 5, 2004, as part of the Shared Source Initiative, Microsoft released the source code for the Windows Installer XML (WiX) developer tool to SourceForge under the IBM Common Public License or CPL. The WiX project is the first Shared Source Initiative to go "public" on Source Forge rather than a Microsoft site. It is also the first to use an externally created Open Source license. Microsoft supports the idea that a software developer should be free to choose how they license their work and for the goals of WiX, the CPL was the right fit. Is this another ploy from Microsoft to not look like the bad guy, or do you think they are embracing on the Open Source movement?" Slashdot and SourceForge are both part of OSDN.

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  1. Background Details of WiX by nberardi · · Score: 4, Informative
    A couple of background details on WiX:
    • The Windows Installer XML (WiX - pronounced "wicks") is a toolset for advanced Windows developers that builds Windows installation packages from XML source code. Overall, WiX can improve the process of how software developers release software.
    • WiX has grown organically and spread rapidly inside Microsoft for our own product builds (e.g. SQL, BizTalk, Exchange, Office, Virtual Server, many MSN properties) and there is a healthy internal community already contributing to the toolset.
    • Many Microsoft product development teams use WiX to deliver their installation packages. Utilizing the 1.0 Common Language Runtime, WiX builds with Visual Studio.Net 2003 on Windows 2000, Windows XP, and will be of use with future Windows offerings.
    • For more information please see http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/
  2. Re:questionable... by TechnoLust · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh, no! They're on to us! I confess. I work for Microsoft and this is all a ploy. The code is actually a very subtle virus that will send a message to us everytime someone installs a piece of open source software with this shared code. This will then open a back door and we will lauch DDOS attacks against SCO from this zombie box. It was supposed to make it look like Linux is insecure and everyone would buy our products. Too bad you figured us out.

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  3. More details by Zarhan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Much more detailed information available at MSDN.

  4. More Information by Rufus211 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The developer has more information as to what WiX is in his blog:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/robmen

  5. Re:Where's the source??? by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Informative

    Their source code is in the SourceForge CVS. SF is taking a beating right now, but the developer mentions that it's in there on this site.

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    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

    - Charles Darwin
  6. Re:Uhm by mrseigen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Allegiance. It should have sold. Hopefully the community will do something nice with it.

  7. Re:embracing open source? by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    If it's no big deal, then why is it nearly impossible for me to get a standard way for installing softwre on linux? I understand that most distros come with a packaging manager, but if I want to write a program, allow downloads from my site, then (to the best of my knowledge) there's no way for it to easily be installed and have menu shortcuts etc set up....

    Follow this and your menu entries will show up for KDE and GNOME. Users of other DEs normally have enough nouse to add menu entries themselves (or their DEs can load GNOME/KDE menus).

    As for installers, at wort you can just statically compile into an rpm - no dependency issues then. As long as you provide a source tar ball as well then most everyone will be happy (and if your program is any good, it'll get included in the package repositories of the various distributions).

    If that doesn't appeal, you could always support autopackage.

    Jedidiah.

  8. Re:embracing open source? by FooBarWidget · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe you're looking for Autopackage.
    Autopackage is a cross-distribution installation system for Linux, mostly designed for desktop apps. With Autopackage it's very easy to create packages that automatically integrate with GNOME and KDE and support non-root installs.

    We're close to 1.0. We've recently changed our plans a little to reach 1.0 earlier so we can have more users ==> which means more developers.
    Autopackage 1.0 will not be perfect, it will just be a "it works, and works well". The really cool features such as RPM/APT/YUM integration is scheduled for post-1.0.

    Please lend your hand and support us. The more users/packagers we have, the better, because that means we'll probably also get more developers who can help us with the post-1.0 cool features and make Linux installation even better.

  9. Rob Mensching comments on by gakguk · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's the one behind the SourceForge release. Here's the part on the idea behind, from his release comments

    Now, let's talk about why WiX was released as Open Source. First, working on WiX has never been a part of my job description or review goals. I work on the project in my free time. Second, WiX is a very developer oriented project and thus providing source code access increases the pool of available developers. Today, there are five core developers (Robert, K, Reid, and Derek, thank you!) regularly working on WiX in their free time with another ten submitting fixes occasionally. Finally, many parts of the Open Source development process appeal to me. Back in 1999 and 2000, I did not feel that many people inside Microsoft understood what the Open Source community was really about and I wanted to improve that understanding by providing an example.

    After four and a half years of part-time development, the WiX design (and most of the code) matured to a point where I was comfortable trying to release it externally. So, last October I started looking for a means to release not only the tools but the source code as well. I thought GotDotNet was the place. However, at that time, none of the existing Shared Source licenses were flexible enough to accept contributions from the community. Then, in February, I was introduced to Stephen Walli who was also working to improve Microsoft's relationship with the Open Source community. Fortunately, Stephen was much farther along than I and had the step-by-step plan how to release an Open Source project from Microsoft using an approved OSS license.

    Today, via WiX on SourceForge, you get to see the results of many people's efforts to improve Microsoft from the inside out. I'm not exactly sure what is going to happen next but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are interested to see where this leads. Personally, all I hope is that if you find the WiX toolset useful then you'll join the community and help us improve the toolset.

  10. Re:This is not news by jc42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah; Microsoft released Windows source - to the Chinese government. And after the techies looked it over, the Chinese government decided to standardize on linux. There was a rumor that the techies recommended that MS Windows be banned in China, but this was too radical a step by China's current capitalist rulers. ;-)

    (Hey, maybe I can get a "troll" rating, too. And maybe this will be read in China, they'll put me on a "banned" list, and they'll stop sending me all that "big5" spam ...)

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  11. Interesting quote by Wolface · · Score: 3, Informative
    I found interesting this explanation from the blog
    • http://blogs.msdn.com/robmen
    First, working on WiX has never been a part of my job description or review goals. I work on the project in my free time. Second, WiX is a very developer oriented project and thus providing source code access increases the pool of available developers. Today, there are five core developers (Robert, K, Reid, and Derek, thank you!) regularly working on WiX in their free time with another ten submitting fixes occasionally. Finally, many parts of the Open Source development process appeal to me. Back in 1999 and 2000, I did not feel that many people inside Microsoft understood what the Open Source community was really about and I wanted to improve that understanding by providing an example. Today, via WiX on SourceForge, you get to see the results of many people's efforts to improve Microsoft from the inside out. I'm not exactly sure what is going to happen next but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are interested to see where this leads. Personally, all I hope is that if you find the WiX toolset useful then you'll join the community and help us improve the toolset.
  12. Re:Just use Nullsofts by omicronish · · Score: 5, Informative

    Windows Installer has many benefits over installation software such as NSIS, old InstallShield (the non-Windows Installer versions), or other tools such as Inno Setup.

    Windows Installer supports installation rollbacks, so failures restore the system exactly back to the state before installation began. I'm not sure if NSIS or other installers support rollbacks, but I have encountered installers in the past that left files everywhere when they quit after a failure.

    I just set up a Windows network as a learning experience, and Windows Installer packages greatly simplify and automate software installation on the network. For example, I can install Office by doing an administrative install, which basically copies all the installation files to a network location, and then assigning Office to network users via a couple clicks. Office is automatically installed when the computer restarts. This works with all Windows Installer packages that support an administrative install; places such ActiveState even provide MSI packages for Python and Perl.

    In addition to administrative installs, Windows Installer also supports application advertisement, which basically does things such as add only shortcuts or file associations. The program is automatically installed when the user clicks the shortcut or attempts to open a file.

    There is also built-in package repair because Windows Installer keeps track of installed components. You can find more information about these and other features here.

    Mind you, Windows Installer technology itself is free, and the database system it uses is documented at MSDN. There are freeware MSI authoring tools such as Advanced Installer, and I recall seeing a web-based tool on SourceForge for modifying MSI packages. Your statement that Windows Installer adds a ton of crap your C drive which are not related to the actual program being installed is also unproven.

    If you want small and fast installers with tools such as Inno Setup, by all means go ahead and use them, but they do make things more difficult for network administrators.