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"Project Rave" Beta Released

Posted by CowboyNeal on from the look-of-things-to-come dept.

Glenn Holmer writes "The long-awaited beta of Sun Java Studio Creator (the IDE formerly known as Project Rave) has been released. This is the product that is supposed to make Java development easy (especially for web apps) by using drag and drop technology. It is based on NetBeans and uses JavaServer Faces technology."

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  1. Limited functionality, high price? by bartok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I fail to see how another non-free Java IDE is gonna make Java more attractive to VS.NET developers (since that's the stated target market). People are much more likely to download Eclipse for free and use that.

    I see this IDE's market to be nothing more than a niche of people who already use Java at work to code Java Server Feces.

  2. OS X by melquiades · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder, is this IDE written in pure Java?

    If not, why not?

    If so, why is Sun dorking around with platform-specific installers?

    Either way, it seems tantamount to an admission of the failure of Java portability ... which is funny, because Java is, by and large, extraordinarily portable, and there are plenty of platform-neutral installers around coming from people with far fewer resources than Sun.

    1. Re:OS X by Arkham · · Score: 5, Informative

      I recently asked James Gosling ("father of Java" and head of Sun's tools development group) about this very issue when I attended a speech he gave in Atlanta. He was demoing on a Powerbook so I thought it was an apt question.

      He said all of Sun's tools run on Macs, and indeed many of their developers used Macs on a daily basis. He said that they really need to work on Mac installers, and hopefully the situation would improve over time.

      If anyone has influence over this, it's Gosling. If you're interested in seeing Mac tools, email him and let him know.

      --
      - Vincit qui patitur.
  3. Rave - what's up with the awful marketing blather? by joelparker · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Rave is great, well worth trying for Java apps--
    but the homepage introduction is horrendous.
    • powerful technologies that can be
      used productively and effectively.

      leverage the power of the Java platform


    Can someone at Sun get a clue about this?
    I'm a Java developer (and former Sun employee)
    and I don't need to read words like "leverage"
    and "powerful technologies" and buzzwords.

    Instead: tell me what the tool is,
    what it does-- ideally with screenshots--
    and how it fits with my other Java tools.

    Cheers, Joel