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"Project Rave" Beta Released
Glenn Holmer writes "The long-awaited beta of Sun Java Studio Creator (the IDE formerly known as Project Rave) has been released. This is the product that is supposed to make Java development easy (especially for web apps) by using drag and drop technology. It is based on NetBeans and uses JavaServer Faces technology."
As usual, there is no Mac OS X installer available for the Sun Java[tm] Studio Creator. There do appear to be sources for SteadyState and JGraph. I'm downloading them now, we'll see what I can make of it.
I fail to see how another non-free Java IDE is gonna make Java more attractive to VS.NET developers (since that's the stated target market). People are much more likely to download Eclipse for free and use that.
I see this IDE's market to be nothing more than a niche of people who already use Java at work to code Java Server Feces.
Here come more clueless "developers" who drag&drop their way to software disasters... :)
In all seriousness though, this is most likely a good thing. It'll be interesting to see how this changes the corporate landscape. Although I have to cringe at any press release that uses the word "leverage"...
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I wonder, is this IDE written in pure Java?
... which is funny, because Java is, by and large, extraordinarily portable, and there are plenty of platform-neutral installers around coming from people with far fewer resources than Sun.
If not, why not?
If so, why is Sun dorking around with platform-specific installers?
Either way, it seems tantamount to an admission of the failure of Java portability
but the homepage introduction is horrendous.
used productively and effectively.
leverage the power of the Java platform
Can someone at Sun get a clue about this?
I'm a Java developer (and former Sun employee)
and I don't need to read words like "leverage"
and "powerful technologies" and buzzwords.
Instead: tell me what the tool is,
what it does-- ideally with screenshots--
and how it fits with my other Java tools.
Cheers, Joel
Lets see the responses.
I dosen't work on platform $FOO
Real developers use language $BAR
Java is proprietary therefore it sucks $FOO is much better because it's $OS LICENSED
I tried it but it didn't do $OBSCURE THING properly so I went back to $POPULAR THING
I heard that MS is discontinuing support for it so why bother.
It's just another incarnation of $FOO why do we need so many ways to do $BAR why can't there be one standard?
$FOO is so much better at $BAR than this everyone should use $FOO.
$FOO dosen't make coffee
etc..
I'm sure you'll point out the spelling errors and missed points.
With a name like that, I bet it's kinda crap.
Cocoa, IMHO, has the best buzzwords -- check out Apple's Web site.
then the "real developers" you know probably don't have "real deadlines" wjere they don't have time to retype everything and re invent the wheel. Auto-complete alone proably saves me a good hour or more a day.
"It's better to be a pirate then join the Navy"
Also remember this isn't a production release and it has some features missing as well as some bugs. Over all I think it's pretty cool. Definately the kind of tool that would work perfectly for corporate intranet developers.
I've recently started using an ide instead of a regular text editor. I have to say I really like Netbeans. It does a lot more out of the box than eclipse. With eclipse I had to download a bunch of different tools. THe ones that actually seemed like they would be useful weren't free. Netbeans gets you up and running with everything you need to develop web applications.
Speed isn't that much of a problem anymore with Tiber beta and the 3.6 beta netbeans. When 4.0 NB comes out things will be even better with the ant based project system.
JSC is based on the Netbeans platform. It doesn't look much like netbeans at first but that's the point of the Netbeans paltform. It's very customizable.
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