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Intel Launches DRM-Enabled CPUs for Phones and Handhelds

squidfrog writes "AP reports, 'The next generation of Intel Corp. microprocessors for cell phones and handheld computers will, for the first time, include hard-wired security features that can enforce copy protection and help prevent hackers from wreaking havoc on wireless networks.' Or more ominously, 'The same technology also can be used to ensure that content such as music or movies is used in a way dictated by the copyright holder. A purchased song, for instance, would not play unless it's sure that it's authorized and running on secure hardware.'" Intel has a press release.

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  1. Well that's just great by tyrani · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now I can be subjected to the COMPLETE lyrics of "hit me baby one more time" once ringtone makers find this out.

    Did you know that ringtone sales make up 10% of music relates sales now? That's a big number.

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  2. Can these schemes really work? by eddie+can+read · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I always figured that no matter what the makers try, if the machine is programmable then a layer can be built on top of the hardware, a virtual machine, that can in effect incapacitate any DRM.

    If there is some sort of foolproof hardware that can't be circumvented, no one has ever explained to me how such a thing could work without being non-programmable.

    Maybe software could be written that needs to hook into the DRM to run. But software is crackable, or seems to have been so far.

  3. Re:Mod chip? by Goldfinger7400 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Rather, could this be the catylyst that might prompt hackers to engineer their own equipment, rather than just taking a PC with Windows and some downloadable software to do mischief. The earliest traditions of hackers were based off of trying to avoid stuff like this, with big Intel locking down its architecture to keep out script kiddies might we see a new renaissance of serious hardware hackers working on hackable hardware?

  4. Re:The bad part about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Joe Consumer" is not as dumb as you might think. Calling him "Joe Consumer" and talking about how gullible he is compared to you, however, will NOT help persuade him to your cause. An adult human person isn't usually stupid. Ignorant, maybe, but usually fully capable of grasping the issue of DRM being a means for corporations to control what you can and cannot see and hear - and more importantly, what information you can and cannot pass on to your friends. Put in those terms, people cop on pretty damn fast.

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  5. Great, better then the 8-track by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Interesting


    8-tracks were so cool from a sales standpoint because as soon as the players were no longer made, you had to buy a new media player and new media.

    Now that we won't fall for that again... if you buy a spiffy new media player what assurance do you have that it will play your old media, not because it's not compatable but because you only bought the rights to play on your old one.

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  6. Will not "prevent hackers from wreaking havoc" by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have that kind of misreporting. The implication in both the article and the press release is that wireless networks (such as cell phone networks) will be more secure because of these untrusting CPUs. But anyone seeking to hack the cell phone network won't work at the cell phone level -- they'll work at the transport portion of the protocol, sending bogus packets straight to base stations. The "secure CPU" won't have anything to do with it.


    One may also entertain serious doubts about the airtightness of the CPU lockout. Other DRM platforms, such as Xbox, haven't exactly stood the test of time.

  7. Re:The bad part about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yeah, plus it's not like the current or previous few generations that are still living have no experience with 'free' media. In previous generations, it was being able to record whatever, whenever to tapes without restriction. In this generation, it's the same only with CDs.

    A very restrictive DRM would work if this were not the case, since the masses would have no reason to believe there was a freer alternative. Obviously the cat's out the bag already, so even if there weren't a non-DRM option, people will get pissed.

    (Assuming there are people who haven't fallen into the apathy hole, as many in this Western culture have)

  8. Re:The bad part about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why, that's your fault. Well, not necessarily literally. But You Can Talk To Your Neighbour (for another few years anyway.). I've talked to the guy in the chip shop about DRM. I've talked to my barber about DRM. Have you?

    Social networking is what Linux/Open Source Geeks are "uncharacteristically" (for the geek stereotype) GOOD at - that is what Open Source people NEED TO REALISE - Microsoft and proprietary companies employ the autistic savants - open sourcers cooperate readily and willingly, even with the constant bickering, and open sourcers associate with other pople (at least compared to the scary-ass sociopathic freaks who work in Microsoft here (Ireland))

  9. Re:No issues here, if you have ETHICS by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    copyright holders have the right to dictate how their IP is used. If you buy a song, and use it in accordence to the agrement that you purchased it's use under, you should have no problems

    Who determines these rights, and are this rights fair and in accordance with the law.

    On the other hand, if you buy it for your own use, then use some flawed logic to give it away to all your friends, well, that ain't going to fly. This is as it should be.

    That's the thing you see. Some artists / peformers actually want you to crank off a copy to a friend and consider this form of distro free advertising. I agree if the artist / peformer doesn't want you to you should respect their wish.

    It's neither immoral nor unethical for you to play a track for a friend. Nor is it illegal for you to bring your media over to a friends player and play it. DRM may have the unseen effect of actually taking normal tame use of our rights with physical media.

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  10. Re:Why is DRM bad? by PoesRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DRM is frowned upon for many reasons. Personally, I find it distateful because it erodes our property rights (i.e. the ability to control the computer I payed a substantial amount of money for) and that it operates under the basic assumption that we are all criminals, which I find offensive. I have yet to see copy protection that didnt hinder honest users more than those who steal it. The people who crack software are barely slowed down, and so really its the person who payed for it that gets bitten by the copy protection (and this holds true for all copy protected content.)

  11. At this point by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Interesting

    most people don't know what DRM is. As more folks buy this junk, they will realize the restrictions being put on them, and believe me, they WILL react negatively.(At least, that's the way it is in my fantasy). One of the reasons the laser disc never sold well is because it couldn't record.(Plus 12inch discs aren't too portable, which probably explains why DVD's do sell so well). Anyway, Let's spread the word, and hope for the best.

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  12. Re:Thank god for AMD by cpghost · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the i386 platform mutates into something that will enforce DRM, other platforms will probably gain momentum. That's not as bad as it might seem. As Unix (Linux, BSD, Mac OS X) community, we can easily adapt to this scenario...

    More interesting is the aspect of non-proprietary CPU architectures. It would be great if the OSS community were joined by a new ODH (open design hardware) community, so that we could get a fully open, non-restrictable architecture for our favorite OSes, apps, and playback devices to DRMed stuff.

    Call me a lunatic if you wish, but I really believe that if Intel/AMD and other mainstream chip makers are doing kotai before the almightly RIAA/MPAA/... cartells, the developer and hacker communities won't take it for granted and will take appropriate counter-measures.

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  13. Re:Mod chip? by Alsee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It will not be modchipped

    You're right. It will be emulated instead. That emulation may or may not be done on a "mod chip".

    It's your property. You rip your chip open, read out your master key, and you have regained control over your own property. Or you pay someone a few bucks to rip open your chip for you and read out your key for you.

    Once you know your own master key you have god-level control over your property. The entire Trust system falls apart. The Trust system relies entirely upon the assumption that people don't know their key.

    I sorta wish I was back in college with a suitable lab handy for scanning microchips. I'd run right out and buy one of these cell phones and get to work on it. I may not have the microscopes and other equipment handy, but I'd be more than happy to go to work reverse-engineering the boot-rom and programming an interoperable emulator.

    It's not used on the desktop yet but the hardware will be there when Longhorn comes out.

    Yep, and going to work on these cellphones will be GREAT practice for liberating PC's from Microsoft's NaGSCaB control.

    It's your property and they can't stop you from reading out YOUR key. Once you know your key you can liberate YOUR computer from THEIR control. All they can do is make it inconvienent. The whole "Trust" system is a load of crap. It would be a good system if they simply game the owner of the system a copy of his key in the first place.

    There is no POSSIBLE way your computer can be any less secure or protect you any less simply because you know your key. The system is still just as secure at protecting your data from attackers, at protecting you from hack attempts and viruses. There is NO legitimate justification to attempt to forbid people to know their own key.

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  14. Re:I am not scared yet by Daneurysm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The trick lies in the fact that since it can't tell the difference between a ripped DiVX and your home movies it will just not play either of them.

    I did not RTFA, per /. protocol, but I speculate that this (if it is really DRM as we have come to understand it) will be how they do it. Unless it is trusted media, and can be verified to be legally playable (licensed) by you it will not play.

    That is the crux of the matter with DRM, especially to me. DRM is fine, but the fact that my own music I produce won't play on such players without the DRM key/watermark (which I assume I'd have to pay for, per client license or a whole lump sum i could never afford...perhaps both) then I am once again ousted from the music industry market. But not because of lack of equipment, lack of songs, or lack of proper know-how to get these things available online...but because I lack the $$$ required to secure my music as 'trusted'...*bam*, RIAA distro monopoly back in business.