Slashdot Mirror


N-Gage QD - Nokia's Answer To The Critics?

JayBonci writes "According to CNET News, Nokia is preparing the N-Gage QD for release at the end of June. The redesign is an attempt to address design criticisms; such as 'side-talking' and the need to take out the battery to replace the game. Will this signal new life for the console, or is it too little, too late?" We linked to leaked pictures of the N-Gage follow-up late last week on Slashdot Games, and there's further information at GameSpot, which mentions: "When bundled with a service contract, the QD is expected to sell for $99. Without subsidy from a service provider, the phone will go for $199 (with the platform's Tony Hawk title bundled in at that price)."

12 of 249 comments (clear)

  1. QD by Slashdot+Hivemind · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quiet Death

    Not with a bang but a whimper etc etc

    1. Re:QD by Turmio · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Oh, come on, stop spreading that FUD. That was proved to be false long time ago. It's not Nokias that explode, it's the crappy 3rd party batteries that do.

  2. Good Ideas 101 by PretzelBat · · Score: 5, Funny

    The NGage has "been redesigned for more comfortable use as a cell phone."

    Wait!--they are going to make their cell phone/game system a functional phone? What a great idea.

    Oh--they're also going to make it usable as a gaming device? You don't even have to take out the battery to change games anymore?

    This thing is going to be awesome.

    I bet someone in R&D is getting a big bonus for these ideas.

  3. Dudes! They can't take away my sidetalkin'! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, I'm like totally sidetalkin', and this bums me out.

  4. Re:Too little, far too late by Wellmont · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've tested the new Nokia models, and was privey to the designs that they went through...although the interface is till "confussing" to quote one tester, their new design is a drastic step over the old design.

    One problem is the fact that they are treading into an area where actual console producers, such as nintendo, would love to smash them in. They could go for another year or two and finally perfect the technology but Nintendo is known for success late in the game, and doing it cheaply.

    Nokia doesn't understand yet that their production and licensing is draining their investments and at the same time Giants who specialize in the field of gaming are looking at similar and alternative investments in the field of Mobile gaming....including microsoft. (keep that on the hush hush)

  5. N-Gage (QD) value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Besides of the obvious design flaws, I never quite understood the amount of negative feedback for N-Gage. A Series 60 phone with MP3-player, Bluetooth, Calendar, Java support, FM-radio and some Gaming capabilities for $200 (or even the original $300) was IMHO never that bad a deal.. Considering that Series 60 phones typically retail for about $400-600, the QD (without the major flaws) seems at least an reasonable deal.

    The fact people are almost fanatical with their dislike with the N-Gage has never made sense to me. I guess one problem was that it was marketed as a game console even though it's still primarily a cell phone (with an innovative SideTalking (tm) interface ;)

    I can understand that people prefer the $100 Gameboy as portable console or that they don't wan't hybrid device or that they just don't like the design, but people seem to take "hating the N-Gage" very personally.. Is this just another episode of the "One True Console"-wars, or what?

  6. N-Gage was a cool platform. QD won't be. by otter42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to have an N-Gage. Until it broke and then got stolen. (Fortunately in that order.) The platform was actually quite good for what it was, and quite terrible for what it was advertised for.

    From a computing standpoint, the thing was awesome. It ran Java apps, so that meant that within 24 hours of owning one, I had already downloaded a messenger client so I could be on all the IMs 24-7, no matter where I was.

    Then there was the ogg player, the Gameboy emulator, etc. All for free.

    Plus, it could understand Palm Pilot files, so no need to carry around both if all you use in the Palm is the address book. With a 512MB card, it was like carrying around a giant USB key, one that I used both under Linux AND Windows.

    However, this new one looks as if it takes all the funcionality away with it's awkward button layout. It's never been easy to type on a cell phone. With this design, it'll be practically impossible.

    And since I never played any N-Gage games on it, 'cause they were terribly boring and the platform was no good as a game machine, I agree with an earlier poster-- QD= Quiet Death. I won't be buying another one, that's for certain.

    --
    www.eissq.com/BandP.html Ball and Plate System. Amuse your friends. Crush your enemies.
  7. Re:formula for disaster by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear it's like talking into a taco!

    Women listen best when you talk "into the taco".

    Trust me.

    LK

    --
    "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  8. Re:Too little, far too late by thesaur · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree. Nokia is well known in Europe for their innovations, and they've been targeting young consumers (i.e., pre-teens and teenagers). This revision of the N-Gage may just be the ticket to getting young people to buy it.

    It's amazing how often young people I know get new phones. All it takes is for one kid in the school to get it and think it's cool. Then the hundreds of others will "need" it. That's the way cell phone marketing works over here, and I think it's very compatible with the N-Gage.

    Though you might think otherwise, the main thing young people use the phones for is games and sending SMS's. Calling each other is too expensive. And Nokia is well aware of that fact.

    Another thing is the price factor. If, as has been stated, it retails for $199 without a service contract, it will be available in Europe probably for 1 EUR with a 24-month contract. That's a decent price, and very afordable for the young. I know many who regularly pay 100 EUR to buy phones on ebay. The phones are usually worth about 300 EUR.

    If Nokia is smart (and I think they are), they'll have easy access to this huge market. If not with this revision, with the next.

  9. Well, let's see what's happened. by Inoshiro · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone who quite seriously bought the N-Gage as the cheapest unlocked GSM worldphone I could get, I think I'm in the position to review the changes ;)

    In positives steps, the new N-Gage QD is:
    * A bit smaller (nice of them).
    * Hot-swapable MMC (not a big deal, really).
    * Better battery life (YAY).
    * Separate OK button (double YAY!).
    * The d-pad and buttons seem ok (E3 well tell if they're any good).
    * Auto-run for inserted MMC games (eeh).
    * Vibration/enchanced speaker for games.
    * Quick-game key (handy if they had good games).

    However, there are some significant drawbacks for those who want some of the features of the original phone:
    * It's dual-band (EGSM 900/1800) -- no more 1900 support (the band we use in North America). No more GSM phone use in North America with N-Gage QD.
    * Also no more radio support, which also means no more recording radio (I listen to the radio a lot when I've listened to the MP3s I have too much).
    * And no more MP3 or AAC support (which is the main use for my phone besides a phone).
    * Movies? Nope!

    Essentially, it's a $200 USD Gameboy in North America, since it has none of the features which redeemed the original N-Gage, except the ability to play AAA-quality gaming titles on MMC.

    I don't know how the folks at Nokia can claim that the N-Gage games are AAA-quality titles. I guess most Gameboy games are AAAAAAAAAA-quality titles, because every single one of the games I've tried has sucked so fucking much. But, hey, at least I got a phone/mp3 player/movie phone/mms capable/colour with calendering device out of it. Purchasers of the N-Gage QD won't get that at all.

    I don't think Nokia will be back for a third round, considering they've lost the second round right here. If they'd managed to get any decent titles, it might be a different story, but no one except maybe Nintendo seems to have the ability to float a platform with 1st-party titles. Without really great 3rd-party wooing via buckets of money (MS) or sheer momentum (Sony), there's no way to get into the game market. Sorry, Nokia, but I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

    --
    --
    Internet Explorer (n): Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.
  10. One small thing.. by superhoe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A device which you can use to call + receive phone calls, play games (emulator as well, from gameboy to C64 and MAME), use calendar, browse net, email, listen to radio, mp3 and do pretty much anything else by installing loads of nice s60 software. F.ex. Teletext application is my big favourite.

    Is even $200 (if it's even that much) really expensive for all that? For me, it is definitely not. I'm unaffiliated with Nokia; I just like this particular device because it's very useful and cheap phone which allows me to do everything I wish and lots more.

    --

    -el

  11. Re:Too little, far too late by DarkZero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just a brief question, since we don't often hear much about the European gaming market:

    Is the N-Gage suffering the same sort of bad press in Europe that it's suffering in the United States? Here in the US, it's been the butt of gaming magazine and website jokes for months, to the point where just mentioning it to any gamer would probably elicit laughter. It's really to the point where the only way they could possibly be less popular is if they sent out a press release announcing that "9 Out of 10 Convicted Child Molesters Agree: The N-Gage Kicks Ass". I'd say that they have a much bigger PR problem to tackle than the Virtual Boy or the 32X ever had.