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iPod Mini Custom Installation In A Ford Explorer

Johnny Mozzarella writes "MacWorld has a nice write-up on Jesse Melchior, an amateur special effects artist and filmmaker, who used his skills to create a custom installation that is worthy of an iPod mini. The article outlines the materials he used such as latex, plaster and dental acrylic to create an integrated dock complete with blue LEDs and Apple logo in his Ford Explorer."

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  1. Battery problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Once this is done, the Explorer becomes like the iPod. When the car's battery runs down, you replace the whole car.

    1. Re:Battery problem by oscast · · Score: 5, Funny

      If we're going to follow this analogy, we might as well get it right.

      In the rare occurance that the battery go, then Apple will replace the whole truck in less than 3 days for the price ($59.00) of an iPod extended warrenty.

    2. Re:Battery problem by oscast · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I had something go wrong with my iPod. I called Apple and the next day, a specially designed (for the iPod) FedEx box arrived at my door with instructions for mailing back. In two days, I had a brand new (not refurbished) iPod.

      1) It didn't cost me a cent.
      2) I didn't lose any *customization

      (*what the heck was that supposed to mean anyways?)

  2. Why not go all out? by Drooling_Sheep · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're going to do something this fancy, why hamstring yourself with the 4GB mini?

    1. Re:Why not go all out? by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Riiiight. Are you going to carry that around rig around?

      The advantage of creating a dock for a portable MP3 player is that you can take your music with you, but still have a nice way to listen to MP3's in the car. Plus, your risk of theft is decreased if you can remove the $500 piece of equipment from the car.

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    2. Re:Why not go all out? by Q2Serpent · · Score: 4, Funny

      you would be better off just buying a cheap computer, a very large hard drive, and a touch screen LCD off of ebay

      Unless you want to get out of your car, walk away, and still be able to listen to your music. (No, I'm not suggesting bigger speakers in your car).

    3. Re:Why not go all out? by PretzelBat · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're going to do something this fancy, why hamstring yourself with the 4GB mini?

      Even more, if you're going to do something this fancy, why hamstring yourself with a Ford Explorer?

    4. Re:Why not go all out? by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      very simple.... whens the last car trip you have taken where you get even remotely close to playing 1000 songs? I sure havent come close with my 5gig 1st gen

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    5. Re:Why not go all out? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny
      very simple.... whens the last car trip you have taken where you get even remotely close to playing 1000 songs? I sure havent come close with my 5gig 1st gen

      Geez, I could never imagine filling up 4 gigabytes of space with music. Don't forget to figure in the $1000 for buying 1000 songs off the Apple iTunes store! That stuff adds up quick. I just don't understand how people can afford to have huge collections with 10,000+ songs in them. They must spend every penny on music, no wonder they hate the RIAA!!

    6. Re:Why not go all out? by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even more, if you're going to do something this fancy, why hamstring yourself with a Ford Explorer?

      Because Escalades only play pr0n on 15 different screens?

    7. Re:Why not go all out? by baudilus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why not indeed. I had a 6GB Creative Nomad Jukebox, and filled that up QUICK. I now have a 40GB iPod and love it.

      It's easy to gather up 10,000 songs when you have a CD collection from two generations of people; not to mention the downloads (purchased *and* free). Ripping CDs and stuff, I currently have 1760 songs, and that's without all the comedy routines and prank calls that i've downloaded, and I'm not even doen ripping CDs. 1000 songs? bah.

      The question "How often do you have a car trip where you can play 1000 songs?" is simply missing the point - the point is not playing that much music, the point is, when I want to listen to Disturbed, I can. If I want to hear Tribal Tech, I can. If I want to hear Black Eyed Peas, I can. And I don't have to fumble through 100 CDs while driving to do it. The point is choice, not volume.

      Think about it.

    8. Re:Why not go all out? by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unless you want to get out of your car, walk away, and still be able to listen to your music

      That's why they invented extension cords.

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    9. Re:Why not go all out? by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But that's piracy. I can understand ripping your own CDs, but ripping your friends' CDs is illegal.
      Not necessarily. Where I live (Scandinavia) I can legally rip and keep MP3s from my friends' CDs, as long as I rip them in my house, and have had the original in my house at one point. I could also tape them, if I could bear the hassle and squeaky sound of cassettes. If my friend rips a CD for me and gives me the MP3s, that's technically illegal. Go figure.
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    10. Re:Why not go all out? by tedtimmons · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's easy to gather up 10,000 songs when you have a CD collection from two generations of people

      Is that a subtle way of saying "I live at home with my parents, so it's easy to afford music"?

  3. What next? by WoodenRobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    What next - an iPod Mini?

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    1. Re:What next? by kalemba · · Score: 3, Informative

      smart will be introducing a iPod integration option (complete with charger) in their cars in europe next model year

  4. Mini Sales Explained by swordboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    It has been expressed here previously that the iPod mini has much less bang-for-buck than the regular iPod, which is only a few bucks more but comes with an extra 16GB.

    However, if you simply want to buy a Hitachi 4GB mini hard drive, you'll save as much as $150 if you buy the mini and take the drive out over buying the boxed hard drive product.

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    1. Re:Mini Sales Explained by afidel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You won't save anything because the mini-iPod edition of the drive doesn't work outside the iPod. There is however another player out there based on the Hitachi drive which has full functioning electronics, and it's cheap to boot! Btw I'm not sure why you would use a mini if you are just going to put it in a huge custom enclosure, the full sized iPod would work just as well.

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  5. shouldnt this be installed in a honda civic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    with a shitty tin spoiler bondo'ed onto the body?

  6. All that equipment... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    latex, plaster and dental acrylic

    This guy uses all that stuff intimately with his car and gets on the front page of slashdot.

    I mention using the same stuff intimately with my girlfriend and she runs away.

    pfft.

    1. Re:All that equipment... by jamieswith · · Score: 5, Funny

      His girlfriend is made of latex - you insensitive clod!

  7. Too Bad You Can't Get One by USAPatriot · · Score: 4, Informative
    Due to a design flaw that causes nasty static noises, iPod Mini shipments have stopped cold.

    Might as well just get a the full sized iPod or another MP3 player unless you don't mind waiting till July.

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  8. If you think this is cool... by C10H14N2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You should see my custom cupholder/cellphone mount.

    Really, guys, is it THAT slow of a news day?

  9. Ford Explorer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cool. Now you can grove to some cool tunes while you're waiting for the tow truck.

    1. Re:Ford Explorer by theLOUDroom · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know what Ford stands for, don't you? Fix it again, Tony.

      No, that would be FIAT.
      Ford stands for:

      Fix
      Or
      Repair
      Daily

      I have no idea where you got that, there isn't even an 'R' anywhere in the phrase "Fix it again, Tony".

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  10. that still won't get me to buy a ford by MoFoQ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Between the faulty mini ipod's (as /.'ed a few days ago) and the ford's faulty fuel system and steering column, I think I have been odds with a two bullet russian roulette.

    Maybe they should've coupled the mini ipod with the OTHER mini; the mini cooper.

  11. As these things go... by rjstanford · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not all that impressive. I mean, its obtrusive while not being terribly convenient to use while driving. If you want to see some truly ingenious fabrication though, a truly topline car show is the place to see it. And you can usually find a regional one closer to you than SEMA, which is where the best toys are. Adding the mini to a car? Neat idea. But just like the recent running gadget thread, this just proves that the average /. geek isn't that up to date on what's available, and gets impressed easily - kind of like the way that non-geeks get impressed by what /. considers "trivial" product modifications or improvements.

    Don't get me wrong, its not bad - just not all that newsworthy. Now, if it included things like tying the existing steering wheel radio controls into the iPod when it was plugged in, and rerouting them back to the radio when it wasn't, then I'd start getting interested. Systems integration can be a lot of work, and a lot of fun - and when you do it right, nobody even thinks about it. That's cool.

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  12. Great... by Jin+Wicked · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (joke)Just what we need, another jackass in an SUV with a blinky detachable electronic gadget to operate while driving and try to get everyone else killed.(/joke)

    Seriously though... that seems like a lot of wasted space. It also looks like it would be too easy to accidentally bump it out of the little holder while driving.

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    1. Re:Great... by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 4, Funny

      It also looks like it would be too easy to accidentally bump it out of the little holder while driving.

      You mean, it would most likely be "thrown" from its holder when the owner goes off-roading because, I mean, why else would you buy an SUV righT??

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  13. MIME by phillk6751 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I Can't See half of the full sized pics in Mozilla due to wrong MIME types. When will these web developers ever learn?

  14. latex? by sulli · · Score: 5, Funny

    he's a mac user. shouldn't he use BBEdit?

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  15. SIZE!!! by theLOUDroom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Could this guy have bought a smaller MP3 player to put into a bigger vehicle?

    Let's put an MP3 player the size of a chicklet in an army tank! That way I hav to take my eyes of the road for 10 mintues (potentially destroying several small villages) just to figure out it's doing!


    Seriously, am I they only one who find the whole "tricked out SUV" fad retarded?

    What's the next fad going to be? Big rigs?
    Are we going to se idiots driving around 1000hp diesel trucks with 15 speed gearboxes and no trailer? Of course it will have 36" chrome rims too....

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  16. Re:That just looks tacky. by BandwidthHog · · Score: 4, Funny

    The term 'ground effects' typically refers to the fiberglass spoilers and skirting that (if done properly) induce downforce under the car to hold it down to the road at high speeds, similar in design and function to that found on Formula 1 racers.

    The correct term for neon lights under your car is 'a waste of fucking money.'

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  17. Re:All that work... by amichalo · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you RTFA, you will note the dock manages all the connections:

    connected the iPod mini to my Pioneer car stereo using the CD-RB10 adapter, which connects to the L+R audio output RCAs from the iPod mini using the line-out from the Belkin car charger. I added two extra cigarette lighter adapters to plug in the car charger and the LEDs. Everything was nicely hidden below the center console.

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  18. Bone Thugs? by nearlygod · · Score: 5, Funny

    All of that just to listen to Bone Thugs? What a waste.

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  19. But it's still cumbersome to use by Seekerofknowledge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ever since I got my iPod, I've dreamt and drooled over the possibility of using it in my car. But I just have never thought up a good way to really integrate it, and I mean fully, like having an easy way to choose songs to play, hit play/pause, change the volume, etc, that is just as easy to use an in dash player that supports mp3's.

    Having it sit somewhere mounted is a good start, but you still would have to reach down there and twiddle the buttons. And in an big vehicle like an Explorer? That would get old, quick.

    By the looks of the pictures, he is using the line out connector on the bottom. You can't change the volume that's coming out of that right? I mean not from the iPod, therefore you'd have to use the main stereo for that. So you would have two places to reach now, for different activities. You would have reach down to the iPod to change songs and pause, and reach to the stereo to change the volume. That little extra step of deciding where need to reach would be a huge burden when you're going down the interstate at 70mph.

    If anybody has thought of a good way to integrate the iPod into a car, I want to know. Right now my setup is using the headphone jack to connect to the aux input of my stereo, and using the inline remote that came with it. I can at least do all functions from one place (the headphone jack can have it's volume adjusted), but I can't really charge it well, because then I'd have a connector sticking out of the bottom *and* top. What I would like is for the iPod to have a docking place like in the article, but still be able to do everything easily, from one place, without needing to look too much. Maybe I need a wireless remote? Maybe I'm asking too much. :)

  20. Watch where you put... by Geek_3.3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... your Quadruple Venti Mocha Turtle Cappachino... one big bump and BAM--unhappy iPod mini coated in sugary goodness... ;-)

  21. Re:That just looks tacky. by pknoll · · Score: 4, Informative
    induce downforce under the car to hold it down to the road at high speeds

    Sorry to be a pedant, but what skirting ("ground effects") does is induce a partial vacuum, or at least a lower pressure area, within the enclosed underside. The rest of the bodywork produces high pressure over the top of the vehicle, skirting produces low pressure beneath, and Bernoulli does the rest.

    The result of all this is increased downforce. FYI, skirting is now prohibited in F1 racing.

  22. Coincidence? by cschmidt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think he'll regret this whole project when his iPod stops working, his Firestone tires fail and his Explorer rolls.

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  23. Ummmm by metalhed77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point isn't how much you listen to, but giving you how choice as to how much to listen to. I have 3000 songs in my library. I listen to several repeatedly over the course of the day. I skip over many of them too. Some people don't listen this way, but i'd rather have my whole library at my fingertips. I never know which song i'll want to listen to next.

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  24. Handheld/Vehicle Interfaces by unfortunateson · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Frankly, the fact that he needed to do this shows that the aftermarket auto industry is not doing its job. My car and my handheld constellation need to talk to each other:
    • Very few audio head units have a front jack for aux input. You can dangle an adapter cable out the back (on most models this means you can't use a CD changer), but that's butt-ugly. Otherwise you're at low-fi FM transmitters or cassette adapters
    • For that matter, why shouldn't it be two-way on the audio link? Record off-the-air onto the MPS, eh?
    • My PDA should be able to get odometer readings from the car easily for expense reports (a GPS may substitute, but it doesn't talk to my PDA well either). [Hmmm... should the Mobil Speedpass let my PDA know what it's spending on gas and McD's?]
    • What kind of communication do I want with the car? I don't know. Perhaps just a USB 2.0 jack on the dash, although that's not peer-to-peer. IEEE 1394? Is Bluetooth good enough for hi-fi audio? Do I want all cars to be wardriving units?
    • I hesitate to mention M$'s AutoPC. Let's just leave it at that.

    There's obviously lots of room for Automobile-Area Networks, but few folks are doing anything about it.
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  25. MP3 Decoder board w/802.11 + Hard Drive... by rthille · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd love to see someone make a small box that sits in my trunk or under my seat that acts like a CD Changer. Yeah, I know about the PhatBox, but I don't see the need for the removability at such a high cost. Something more like the YAMPP-3, but with WI-FI.
    Heck, I'd even be willing to drag an ethernet cable out to the car (hey, a drop in the Garage isn't out of the question) to load up new MP3s over paying ~$800 for the 20GB Phatbox.

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  26. ipod deck? by ahector · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've got the Belkin charger/line out in my car. It works well and plugs right into the stereo... but it's not that slick. I have to control the ipod to change songs, etc. and then use my cd deck to change volume. I want a deck that I can buy that acts as an ipod dock. You just slide that ipod in like an 8 track and then the deck has normal controls for volume, track selection, etc. and a display that shows song titles, etc. If it had a radio too I could care less about not having a CD player in the car. So you get to listen to the ipod, control it easily.. it gets charged... When you leave the car just eject the ipod, grab it and go! Something like this would be popular, wouldn't you think?

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  27. In-dash iPod dock by laird · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a really sweet car mod, but what I really want is to be able to buy an in-dash car stereo into which I can dock the iPod and use the stereo's controls.

    Alpine has announced one that's close, but it has the iPod on an external cable. I'd rather not deal with the iPod and cable floating around inside the car.

  28. Re:Archos by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yeah, watching movies while reaching through the steering wheel in your camaro to mess with your Archos is totally safe. Whereas fiddling in that dang console is really hazardous. Why else would car manufacturers put stick shifts down there, within easy and comfortable reach of the driver's right hand...and just imagine, if it were down there, your passenger could change the music while the driver...drives! How dangerous!

    Seriously though, how about watching the road instead of how many RPMs your Z28 is whining along at?

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  29. Alpine has it - Control through the head unit by niusj · · Score: 4, Informative

    Visit Here for a press release. The unit will be available later this year. It integrates all control through the head unit, via the dock connector. You can tuck the iPod away inside the glove box. Still requires you to take your eyes off the road and look at the display of the receiver, however. Until Alpine comes out with an easy-to-install aftermarket heads-up-display...

  30. you're absolutely right by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Funny
    That little extra step of deciding where need to reach would be a huge burden when you're going down the interstate at 70mph

    You're absolutely right. I had to stop driving manual transmission cars because I couldn't deal with the complexity...having to press a pedal AND move a lever? All while braking or tapping the gas?

    But then, I didn't find automatics much better. One pedal for stopping, one for going? Aaaaa! What insane trickery!

  31. Alpine's iPod ready Head Unit by ende · · Score: 3, Informative

    Alpine is coming out with a HU this summer that will allow you to plug your iPod in, and store it in any location (glove box, center console, trunk, etc..) and the HU will display the song info and allow you to control the iPod. Google for more information, here is a quick link to their press release.

  32. Just want to clear a few things up... by reelmagik · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It's nice to read all the positive, and not so positive comments people have said about what I did. I want to clear a few things up for all the negative people out there...

    -There are no wires to attach or add because the Belkin car charger I integrated into the design has an audio line-out built into it, which I used to run directly into my car stereo via an adapter. The music plays through the car speakers at perfect quality. Yeah, I still control the volume throught the car stereo but HOW HARD IS THAT? Come on people.

    -The blue LED lights were added ONLY for one reason: TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE DAMN THING IN THE DARK AT NIGHT WHILE PLUGGING IT IN OR CHANGING SONGS.

    -It can not "fly" out of the console because if you had actually read what I wrote you would see that I made it so the iPod fits very snugly into it, making it able to lock it in place and push on the buttons or scroll through songs very easily without it so much as moving. There is no way it would ever wobble around, or even fly out.

    -It is not difficult to use, or awkward in any way...the thing sits right where my hand rests over the console and it takes no effort to press any of the buttons.

    -I am NOT the kind of guy who "tricks out" his car just to look cool, especially not with an explorer. While I do like the car, I only made it because I wanted to use MY iPod in MY car while I was driving, and that was it. It's a hell of a lot better than carrying around 400 cd's. For those of you who remarked about it being unsafe...How safe is it to look through all your cd's trying to find the one that has the one song you want to hear while trying to watch the road at the same time? With the iPod, I can make up song lists I want to hear before I even leave, or while I'm just sitting in the car at a red light or in traffic, or even just let all 1000 songs play in random order. Anyone who actually OWNS an iPod knows how easy it is to use one.

    I personally don't care what any of you negative people think because I didn't make it to please you, I made it for myself. I enjoy using it and that's all that matters. Until I see pictures of your installs that are any better or more practical than mine, maybe you should think twice about bashing it.

    Could this have been done better? Of course! I'm the first to admit that. I started rethinking and redesigning it after I installed it. I made the thing on a whim and didn't take the time to completely think out EVERY practical application, I just wanted to make something to play the thing in my car til I came up with something better.

    I'm glad there are some people out there who did enjoy it and maybe got some ideas of their own. Thanks everybody!