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Sapphire: A Liquid That Won't Get Things Wet

eaglebtc writes "Tuesday on Good Morning America, a representative from Tyco Fire & Security demonstrated an amazing new substance called Sapphire: a water-like fluid that does not get things wet. He filled a small fish tank with Sapphire and submerged a book, a laptop, and a flat panel TV. Both electronics were turned on when submerged; all three items came out completely unharmed. Click here for a slideshow of the demonstration. The official name for Sapphire is actually Novec 1230. Read about it here (PDF). Tyco sees practical applications of Sapphire in fire extinguisher systems for museums and libraries. By the same token of practicality, regular readers of Slashdot probably have something else in mind: total-immersion watercooling. Just think of the possibilities!"

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  1. Fluorocarbons by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmmmm. This sounds like the fluorocarbons that we used to bathe the insides of Cray supercomputers with. They were pretty cool with little windows that one could look in and see "waterfalls" of fluorocarbon flowing over the circuitboards and components to keep them cool.

    Of course we had to have an entire floor below us dedicated to refrigeration, but hey. Governments can afford this kind of stuff.

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  2. Re:Uhm by strictnein · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm no expert but if something's on fire, getting it wet is the least of your worries.

    Yep, you are no expert. In many fires by far the most damage is not caused by the fire itself, but by the massive amounts of water used to put it out.

  3. If it doesn't get things wet... by ShdwStkr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    how to you clean it up? Or pick it up? Say, after it's been used to put out a fire? Or does some 'special' cloth absorb it?

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    1. Re:If it doesn't get things wet... by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The way you clean up spilled Mercury is to sprinkle zinc dust all over, and then sweep it up. It's one of the very few toxic substances that Environmental Health and Safety people will let an "untrained" chemistry or physics person clean up without a lot of shoulder-peeking. Hell, they even hand out these "special" sponges, which are essentially just a regular sponge with zinc bits glued on.

      The point is that Mercury WILL stick to zinc (amalgam, anyone?) and copper, but zinc is a bit less toxic than copper to have around.

      Similarly, I work with 3M's fluorinert liquids quite a bit, although not for cooling. They're useful for some of their other properties (which I'm not revealing right now, because my research could get scooped -- that's science in action!), but the BEST property is that they're STABLE, and they're awfully nonreactive with organics (humans). There've been studies where fish were immersed in fluorinert liquids for long times. Just bubble some oxygen through the stuff so the fish can breathe, and choose the right density, and the fish do fine. Choose the wrong densities, though, and the fish'll be bobbing about on the surface, wondering how the hell to deflate their swim bladders.

  4. Re:"Water"-cooling by stereoroid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The actual usefulness of the fluid in any state depends on the specific heat capacity, which I can't see 'coz the site is /.'d ...

    Since the phase change itself is be a major energy-absorber, that could be very helpful indeed as long as fresh condensed fluid comes in after a radiator of some sort.

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  5. Re:"Water"-cooling by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 5, Interesting
    yes... but no-one's concerned about reusing the water you used to put out the fire. coolant, on the other hand, should stick around for more than a few seconds before it bubbles off into the atmosphere.

    If you put it deep enough in the fluid, the bubbles will condense on the way up. If the heat of vaporization is anything reasonable, this should work quite well to remove heat from your chip--the fluid changing to a gas absorbs a bunch of heat, and then swims away with it, while more cool fluid rushes in to take its place. Probably look cool, too.

  6. Fluorinert by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I was in intern at the Chippewa Falls offices of Cray (well, SGI, but we all called it Cray) back in 1999.

    I seem to remember hearing that the fluorinert they cooled the processors with was perfectly safe unless turned into a gas, in which case it was roughly as toxic as mustard gas. So, if there was ever an electrical fault in one of the machines that caused the coolant to boil off, there was a distinct possibility that you'd end up with a few dead operators.

    Can anyone confirm/deny this? Actually, don't deny -- this is one of my best geek stories.

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  7. Re:"Water"-cooling by psychofox · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You have to be careful with 3M's Fluorinert: Mustard gas doesn't sound too pleasant to me!

    Mustard gas

    Corporate site for Fluorinert

  8. Re:"Water"-cooling by kcdoodle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A good cooling setup would have enough flow to keep the liquid from boiling.

    With a high enough recirculation flow rate, any boiling the would take place would be at the chip. Small bubbles would form and be swept away by the fluid flow.

    This process is called "Nucleate Boiling" and is the best heat transfer method there is. The latent heat of vaporization is absorbed by the liquid in it's phase change to a gas. Then the tiny gas bubbles are swept away by the fluid flow and the gas bubbles collapse, giving their latent heat to the surrounding fluid. This heat is later removed by the cooling radiator at the other end.

    As long as the bulk temperature of the fluid stays well below the boiling point and the fluid flow is sufficent to strip the small bubbles that form on the heat source surface, this is really the best setup imaginable!

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  9. Re:"Water"-cooling by ryepup · · Score: 5, Interesting

    on a more practical note, do you want a hermetically sealed case? Thats seems like it would be a lot more expensive and much more difficult to maintain. When you're hard drive dies, not only do you have to get a replacement drive and pop it in, you have to pop the seal on your case, drain some fluid, switch the hardware, then re-fill and re-seal the case.

  10. Re:"Water"-cooling by syn3rg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually you're right. Hard drives aren't hermetically sealed either -- They have small holse to allow the air inside to expand or contract based on heat load. The liquid would get in. It might not fry your electronics, but I'll bet it'd give the heads a hard time. possibly even corrupt the disks.

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