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Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released
boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore."
As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"
Installation was a breeze. So far USB2 support is not bad, my USB2 HD is working as it should. Thats all I have to report, but I like this version much better than 9 so far.
Wait a couple of weeks and they'll be available to non-club folks.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
but what is the difference between Community and Official?
The Official version is basically the Community version plus a few months worth of updates. Thus, the Official version should have the major errors removed and be Very Stable.
Plus, the Official version is what you get if you want a boxed version.
The problem comes when you rely on the package manager to take care of stuff you ought to take care of yourself (my biggest beef with Gentoo).
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I downloaded the 3 ISOs for Mandrake 10 Community when it came out, and kept up with the updates throughout the next few weeks. I had it installed on an Asus L3C laptop that dual booted between XP and Linux. Here's my experiences:
1. Install: rocks. Take note Linux Distros, this is how things should happen, enough configuration available, but simple enough to let it go and go watch Family Guy instead.
2. Boot: One major issue, every time I booted it would alternate between thinking my Orinoco gold pcmcia wireless card would be not present, or thing a new one had been put in and try to reinstall it, this was a real pain the in ass, and was the major reason Mandrake 10 got booted for a second time (9.2 is no longer on my good list either) from this laptop. Maybe this distro is just better for desktops.
3. Usage: KDE 3.2 is nice, I like it, but quite frankly, I think I'm still a Gnome person. Also, if all the drak tools worked correctly all the time, I wouldn't have a problem with Mandrake having their config files all over the place, but tweaking config files by hand just isn't a good thing to do with this distro, and therefore some things just don't work properly (drakconnect!).
Overall, Mandrake is a nice distro, and is great for people new to Linux, but for more intermediate and advanced users, there's better things out there. Quite frankly, my laptop runs really really well using Slackware 9.1, Kernel 2.6.5, Dropline Gnome 2.6, and Swaret (using slackware-current) to automate the upgrade process. Yes, you have to get your hands dirty with Slackware sometimes, but at least things work like they're susposed to, and things that aren't there can be easily installed, and personalized shell/perl scripts are finally reality for those who want full control of their machine.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Mandrake has a ton of potential and I really want to see them succeed, it just still needs more polish. But compared to Fedora and SUSE, I think Mandrake is the best jumping in point for users who have never touched Linux before.
ce n'est pas un Sig.
You're talking about the Club. The Community distro release was to allow mass testing of a usually final RC quality build, so that an even better updated one could be released a few months later, aka Offical.
I downloaded the Mandrake 10 CDs that were released about a month ago. The install went ok, but I was surprised that it was impossible to go "back" after most decisions. Upon booting the installed OS, normal users could not login to their graphical desktop. Trying to do so caused the system to attempt to run KDE... but then the screen flickered and returned to the KDM login prompt.
...never would have thought that Debian would be easier to install than Mandrake. Then again, Linux distros are changing very rapidly. The moral of the story is to be open minded and try out other distros.
However, root could login, but KDE was behaving very strangly. I even tried to make a couple new accounts to try again with normal users. Still, only root could login to KDE. I then tried to run urmpi so as to update the system, but it only returned cryptic errors.
So I was said to myself "this is crap, next"!
I then decided to give the latest beta of Sarge a try (beta 3). Sure the installer wasn't has pretty looking as Mandrake's, but it was an easy install... and better yet, the resultant install actually worked.
uhm, are you just stupid or what?
try mandrake update. its easy. painless. simple. a monkey could do it.
if yer a little more clueful, try urpmi.
mandrake has all the package managers that redhat has, and all the package managers that gentoo has, and all the package managers that debian has too.
and some more.
get a clue. try it. its easy.
and to those people who say its not stable, wtf are you smoking? can i get some?
mandrake 10 "just works"...
According to the Mandrake Linux Users Club Page, among other things members of the club are entitled to:
(emphasis in original). Thus it appears that at least one of the differences between Communty and Official is that the latter contains proprietary software and drivers that need not and cannot be distributed pursuant to the GPL or other Open Source license.
Only Women Bleed (Sex, Sharia remix)
You have the rights to the source if you buy the binaries, read and understand the GPL. That does not mean that a distributor is under obligation to give you free binaries. Of course, since the source is available to end users, that makes it likely that someone will distribute their own binaries if the original distributor doesn't.
Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community ISO images for i586 and higher
Not the Official edition I'm afraid.
I am a silver member. I have been for some time. I am currently running 10.0 community on several of my systems so that I could at least help debug. Now, it appears that a silver member will only get you a desktop, not the real core. No APache. No hylafax. No kolab. No DB (postgres or mysql). Nothing.
Is there anybody here from mandrake who can help explain why it appears that those of us who helped bring you out of bankruptcy are suddenly being screwed?
I will be downloading it, but if the web page was correct about this, then I will be canceling the membership and turning 10 families on over to a different distro. Hopefully, it it just a screw up in how things are presented.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Ok, looks like I can upgrade my account to Silver or Gold and get the PowerPack and extra Bonus CD's. Still feel a little squeezed, but I do like the distro.
I just signed up for the Standard plan. Now I find out, even though I'm a mandrake club member, I can't download some ISO's. Only Silver and higher can. And the ISO's I get are the public release version. How freaking ABSURD!
Being a member means you get releases sooner, and you get better access to updated packages and custom packages. Generally speaking they only release bugfixes publically. Members get "real" upgraded packages.
The main reason to be a member is to give something back. Free software may be free, but there is nothing wrong with pitching in some cash to help out.
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
The "ISOs for the masses" consist of only free software. The nvidia and ati drivers are on the commercial cd's, and available as club downloads.
Ofcourse you can go with the free download and install those drivers yourself.
Well, don't worry about that. We can get you back before you leave. (Dr. Who)
Huh? I am a standard member and I am downloading the 3+1 cd's of 10.0 official just fine.
Please go back and check the links (official is a couple of lines below community on the mdk club torrent page).
Also, please double check these things before coming with these serious (and unfounded IMO) allegations.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/Mandrakelinux-1 0.0-Community.torrent
urpmi.update -a (similar to 'apt-get update') then urpmi --auto-select (similar to 'apt-get dist-upgrade') no, you don't need to thank me :)
For everyone that is running 10.0 CE and wants to upgrade: urpmi.removemedia -a (clears urpmi setup) then urpmi.addmedia main ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/ RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586/ with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.pcds.ch/pub/plf/mandrake/10.0 with hdlist.cz
and finally...
urpmi --auto-select
done ;)
hmmm... did you just try to install the packages first ? There is no such thing as a "desktop" distro or a "server" distro for Mandrake...
Ok, you need to check the group of packages saying "Databases" to have the databases (like postgres) installed, it may not install MySQL by default, but if you go in your Mandrake Control Center, you can actually install that software (it even tells you which cd to install).
By the way, software works better if installed... ;-)
And I'm using a Mdk 10.0 Community to tell you this (yes, I have mysql, apache, .... all installed).
I presume this is the "community" torrent from a month or two ago, not todays "official" release. I'd make 100% sure before you waste 2 Gigs of download bandwidth.