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National TV Turn Off Week

beforewisdom writes "Next week (April 19th - 25th 2004) is National TV Turn Off Week in the USA. Among the many benefits claimed by tvturnoff.org is that 90% of the people who participate in a TV Turnoff Week successfully reduce the amount of television they watch permanently."

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  1. Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mailed that link (subscriber) to people at work and some friends. Already the replies have been:

    "Great in theory, but there's a new Friends episode on Thursday. [...]"

    [group reply to above] "Yeah, great...in theory...."

    My sister, who hasn't replied back yet, will undoubtedly mention Trading Spaces or another of those TLC shows. Another friend will complain about missing NASCAR or Monster Garage or whatever...

    How the hell can the kids have a hope at reducing viewing, or dumping TV altogether, when the adults around them come up with excuses to not give up the idiot box for just one damn week?

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    1. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by ScottGant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We don't have a TV, but we watch Sunday night TV at my inlaws house...mainly HBO original programs like The Sopranos and Deadwood at the moment.

      So giving up TV for a week isn't really a big deal for us...

      But giving up the internet for a week? That would be hard my friend...

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    2. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by lazuli42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever since I've had my cable modem I've hardly watched television at all.

      For example, this year I have watched television for about 6 hours. About three of that was the Super Bowl (with it's totally lame ads this year, blah), and about three of that was the Academy Awards.

      Last year I probably watched about 20 hours worth of television programming.

      One reason that I don't watch television is because of all the awful advertising. It seems like for every three minutes of programming there are two minutes of commercials.

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    3. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by q-the-impaler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I watch TV typically because my roommate has it on. He's definitely addicted since he got laid off from his IT job. I find myself requiring more interactivity than TV, so I am a computer junkie.

      My girlfriend would argue that she would rather me be a TV junkie, because at least that is something we can do together. She would never think Slashdot was interesting, so you can guess that gaming is out of the question.

      Most people do not want to be free of TV. You have to want to not watch TV and see that your life could be better without it. So, I guess people like us will just have to deal with other people who are not quite as motivated. Temperance is something geeks end up having to learn in order to work with the rest of society.

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    4. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How the hell can the kids have a hope at reducing viewing, or dumping TV altogether, when the adults around them come up with excuses to not give up the idiot box for just one damn week?

      Yeah, that's a great way to get people to participate - get angry, act annoyed about the shows they watch, and call it the "idiot box".

      I don't think the lack of joy at your requests should be suprising in the least.

    5. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by identity0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How the hell can the kids have a hope at reducing viewing, or dumping TV altogether, when the adults around them come up with excuses to not give up the idiot box for just one damn week?

      Maybe they shouldn't? 99% of TV is crap - they have a higher crap rate than other media, I think - but that 1% that is good is different for different people. Choosing one week to not watch TV is pretty arbitrary, I think.

      The problem with TV is when people get bad viewing habits - that is, watching it without any particular show in mind, letting it control their schedule, or just vegging out in front of it for hours, etc. As long as people aren't doing that, I don't think turning it off is nessecary.

      As an aside, though - I had a blackout last night, with no TV, and more importantly, no internet. I went outside and talked to a group of my neighbors that had gathered, and had a pleasant conversation. It was actually a nice experience getting to know them. I think this is the kind of thing the people at TV Turnoff week are after, but realistically there is no way to force people out short of a blackout. Plus, you can socialize without sacrificing TV, if you wanted to...

    6. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by HybridJeff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly, why watch TV. Just download the shows you cant miss and watch them on your computer.

    7. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by Golias · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Pardon me for threadjacking an early section of the posts, but I see the general trend here is for people to proclaim that TV is, at best, a harmless vice. I would like to take this opportunity to proclaim that I love television.

      Sure, a lot of it is crap, but if you apply Sturgeon's Law, TV holds its own in its obligation to provide 5% non-cruddy content. Setting aside prime-time gems like "Alias" and the ill-fated "Firefly", several of the late-night talk shows (Letterman, Kilborn, and O'Brien) provide relaxing, disposable laugh-filled entertainment on a nightly basis.

      Then there's the wonder of Japanese TV, especially anime, made available at more reasonable priced than ever thanks to the rise of DVD and cable re-broadcasts. "Last Exile" is a science fiction series which shames George Lucas's best work, let alone his recent disappointments.

      So, if anything, I plan on watching even more TV next week, to pick up the slack from those of you who are taking a break.

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    8. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... by SurgeonGeneral · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The same " At no time is there every a picture displayed on the screen" thing is true for a computer monitor, do I turn into an zombie when I surf the internet too?

      The Elaborative Likelihood Model is not limited to television, it can be induced in any environment with any medium. Television just happens to make it very easy.

      If you would like some context for the model, I have posted a reply to another guy that contains some interesting information and gives a very basic understanding of beer commercials. Hmm I'll just quote it :

      The primary goal of the advertising of almost every product is to get you to buy the product. What you are talking about is "differentiation", and that is a more difficult thing to induce in consumers. First and foremost is to make you want the product however. This is often done, as everyone knows, with sex and social hierarchies, portraying, for instance, beer drinking as fun and extroverted. They hit the chord that makes you think of sex, fun and friends, and they do it in a bar setting, focused on people drinking beer. BEER = fun friends and sex. oh by the way, BUDWEISER.
      Hmm.. how many different beers does Anhauser-busch make?? does it really matter whats on the label? Would you even be able to tell in a blind taste test? (no)


      The fact that there is a product in commercials at all is just an excuse to brainwash. It doesnt really matter whats on the label, and if you want to go even further, it doesnt even matter what the product is. The more people buying ANYTHING = more profit for everyone = more GDP = stocks go up etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

      Corporations are so big and own so many thing you cant help but give the largest ones money. For instance, if you have a thing of Kraft peanut butter in your fridge, you have given your money to Phillap Morris, one of the largest Tobacco companies in the world (and believe me, they know how to use advertising)

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  2. Seriously by caomania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Give it a try - you may never turn back. I stopped watching 2 years ago when my free cable got shut-off. Haven't watched more than 12 hours since. With the TV off you'll find lots of additional free time to indulge in more worthwhile pursuits. TV was the opium of the 80s it's time to kick the habit.

  3. Re:Does it count... by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Insightful
    if I just Tivo everything this week and watch it all next week?

    At the risk of being serious... why not? Part of the point is to spend a week doing things other than watching TV, as a learning experience. Coming back the next week and watching twice as much to make up for it might undo some of the good that accomplishes, but you'd still have that week's experience to draw upon.

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  4. TV use is inversely proportional to Internet use by Vandil+X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Among the people I know and work with, it seems that those who spend lots of time on the Internet (or working/gaming on their computers) spend much less time watching TV than they did 10 years ago (pre-mainstream Internet).

    Among the people who still see computing/the_Internet as an appliance, are the ones still watching TV, an age group whose average age is increasing as more and more youths leave television to embrace the Internet and Internet-connected devices.

    Personally, the only time I watch TV now is the few minutes it takes in the morning to catch the weather on the news.

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  5. Why so desparate to have TV? by paranode · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So many slashdotters act like everyone should be on some crusade to stop TV. Just because they aren't entertained by TV means nobody else should be.

    Forget the 20-100+ hours you spend a week in front of computers (especially if you work with them). The entertainment industry is one of the biggest industries in the US (if not the biggest). People get bored, and people want something to do. So what if their little TV shows give them something to look forward to in the evening or on a Saturday afternoon? Is that any worse than the obsession of reading internet news sites?

    Quit acting like you need to help people cope with their addiction to television. Ironically people who use this argument are often recreational illegal drug smokers. It's all about entertainment folks, don't judge people for the kind they like best.

    1. Re:Why so desparate to have TV? by wizarddc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because it's not productive or constructive. We (as in /. geeks) aren't saying all television is bad, or even certain shows. We're saying there is so much else to do with your life than sit on the couch. I don't own a tv, simply because I'm never home, between work and school. But I do watch tv. My friends and I will watch South Park and Chapelle's Show, and do it as a social activity. Then those shows are over, we'll generally then go do other things, like play music or sports or anything else really. TV as an activity is OK. TV as a lifestyle is horrible.

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    2. Re:Why so desparate to have TV? by pileated · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the question is the quality of the entertainment. Spend your life in front of a tv and you'll never know that richer more rewarding types of entertainment, like reading for one, are available.

      I think the idea is to just try it for a week. If you don't like in then go back to tv. But if you're afraid to even try, then tv sounds a wee bit like an addiction:-)

      But who cares really, it's your life. As far as I'm concerned people who encourage you to watch less tv are like people who encouraged you not to smoke 25 years ago. Anyone can take or leave the advice but many people who took it were glad that they did.

    3. Re:Why so desparate to have TV? by Dictator+For+Life · · Score: 3, Insightful
      People get bored, and people want something to do.

      Incredible. So what exactly did people do before they had television? Did they just not get bored? Or did they have other things to do? Or did they find other ways to entertain themselves?

      Don't you think that addiction to entertainment is harmful? It seems not. Unfortunately, it appears that most of the country agrees with you.

      As for me and my family? We don't own a TV. We gave it up over a decade ago. Frankly, we don't know how TV slaves get anything done, because we still don't have enough time to do the things we want to do.

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    4. Re:Why so desparate to have TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because it's not productive or constructive.

      So what. Hanging out on Slashdot is just about as productive and constructive as watching TV. Shall there be a crusade to stop reading/posting to Slashdot? Why do you even feel it necessary to tell people what to do? Who put you and your anti-TV crusading ilk in charge?
    5. Re:Why so desparate to have TV? by shayne321 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh but it does. People spending all week day evenings nailed to the couch do not excercise, doubtfully eat very healthy. With national healthcare paid out of our taxes it becomes my problem. Just as your heroin consumption.

      Eh, but it's not T.V.'s fault people are "nailed to the couch". Lazy people are lazy people, myself included. If you took away my TV instead of laying on the couch watching the tube I'd be laying on the couch reading a book. Or using my laptop to surf slashdot. Or sleeping. Just because there's suddenly not a TV in the room doesn't mean I'm going to go out and take up jogging.

      Same with heroin. People who tend towards heroin addition generally have addictive personalities and are either trying to escape something (their present, their past), or simply love being "fucked up". But guess what? You take away their heroin and they'll move to oxycontin. Or Robitussen. Or alcohol. You get the idea. You can't change people by removing their access to a vice. This is why bans on gambling/smoking/drugs/drinking NEVER work.

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  6. What about watching when you feel like it... by globalar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If /. was somehow TV-based (I'm stretching, just follow), I would be on a lot more. Better for your mind you say? We can debate that, on /. of course.

    Some people like Friends. I sometimes take a moment to wonder why. Of course, I'm sure they've been wondering what the hell I'm doing reading this website about "news for nerds" all the time. To each his own.

    What's important is that you make the choice, not the companies that run television and that you make the right choice (i.e. don't give up more important things for TV like kids).

  7. Re:Stupid by WuphonsReach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This whole campaign rests on the assumption that there is something bad or wrong with watching a lot of TV. I say that watching as much TV as you want is perfectly fine.

    You're missing the point.

    The point of National TV Turn Off week is to break the behavoir pattern where all you do when you come home is flop on the couch and turn on the TV for the entire evening and watch whatever happens to be on. Pure escapism, especially if you're not addressing other pressing needs. Some escapism is okay, probably even healthy, but too much avoiding of issues just leaves problems to fester and make things worse down the road.

    Then there are the people who schedule their lives around shows, making themselves slaves of the TV schedule. Remember the slogans "must-see TV" and the like?

    Same old story as a bunch of other vices. Moderation is okay, addiction isn't. But a lot of people live in denial about their addictions and trying to go cold-turkey for a weeks is a good way to determine whether you're in control or your addiction is in control.

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  8. The Words of Howard Beale by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yes, you can read newspapers to get by, but having moving pictures in your home is one of the greatest inventions of all time. Why would you want to abstain from it for some enlightend purpose?

    I will leave you with a quote from Howard Beale, an overstressed news anchor turned mad street prophet, from the movie "Network":
    You people and sixty-two million other Americans are listening to me right now. Because less than three percent of you people read books. Because less than fifteen percent of you read newspapers. Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube. This tube is the gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break Presidents, Popes, Prime Ministers. This tube is the most awesome, god-damned force in the whole godless world. And woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people [...movie plot stuff snipped...] And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome, god-damned propaganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what s--t will be peddled for truth on this network.

    So, you listen to me! Listen to me! Television is not the truth. Television is a god-damned amusement park. Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, story tellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, sideshow freaks, lion tamers and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business. So if you want the truth, go to your God, go to your gurus, go to yourselves because that's the only place you're ever gonna find any real truth. But man, you're never gonna get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear. We lie like hell! We'll tell you that Kojack always gets the killer, and nobody ever gets cancer in Archie Bunker's house. And no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don't worry. Just look at your watch - at the end of the hour, he's gonna win. We'll tell you any s--t you want to hear. We deal in illusions, man. None of it is true! But you people sit there day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds - we're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you. You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube. You even think like the tube.

    This is mass madness. You maniacs. In God's name, you people are the real thing. We are the illusion. So turn off your television sets. Turn them off now. Turn them off right now. Turn them off and leave them off. Turn them off right in the middle of this sentence I am speaking to you now. Turn them off!
    Network is simply one of the best movies ever made about TV and the News. I highly recommend it. Despite 70s dress and equipment, it manages not to be dated. All the issues it deals with are still relevant, from how sensationalism taints objectivity and values to how quickly idealists can sell-out when given the opportunity.
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  9. Re:How about NO TV? Works for me in a weird way by jcorgan · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I can echo a lot of the same. I turned off the TV when my son was born in 1991. One of the last things I watched was the opening salvo of the first Iraq war, on CNN.

    It's true what you say about not living in quite the same world as others around you. There are many cultural references which have their basis in TV shows and commercials, and people act strangely when I mention I have no idea what they are talking about. And I occasionally miss out on such gems as the (Honda?) commercial with the Rube Goldberg setup with all the auto parts :)

    For news I've relied on the 'net--and the fact that I can get viewpoints from journalists outside the US very easily. What is fascinating is not so much the different spin put on world events from different parts of the world (everybody has spin), but rather what gets reported and what doesn't, or how long international events stay in the collective attention span of a region. From the attention given in America, you'd think the recent bombing in Spain or the Bali bombing never happened. When 9/11 happened they put CNN on 24x7 on a wall-sized display in our office cafeteria for a week. (Okay, different magnitude of events but the horror is the same.)

    I travel a lot internationally for business, and I do occasionally turn on the TV set in the hotel room. Commercials the world over are hilarious, and frightening. Television advertising is a multi-billion industry subject to the same market efficiencies as everything else--only the most effective advertising techniques tend to survive in the long run. So what you see in TV commercials is the way it is because it works--a scary commentary on our collective psyche.

    I've even turned off the radio, for the most part. Between the blandness of the FM dial and the hysterical pomp of AM talk radio, there just isn't anything worth listening to anymore. Try turning on a shortwave radio and tuning in to English language broadcasts to witness the vast variety "world band" radio has to offer. Yeah, there are still nutcases, but you also hear about a lot of things we never hear about in our cozy suburban comfort zone.

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