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Extreme Yo-Yoing

Roland Piquepaille writes "Unless you're a dedicated yo-yo fan and a serious competitor, I doubt that you'll hand over $400 for a yo-yo. Even if it's a state-of-the-art hogh-tech yoyo made with a forged-magnesium-alloy and coming with the latest in axle technology. With this one, you can use the freehand style, meaning that your hand is not connected to the yo-yo, but is replaced by a small counterweight. In 'Reinventing the Yo-Yo,' Science News Online says 'its balance is ensured with precision tooling to micrometer tolerances by a computer-controlled lathe.' This long article doesn't solely focus on this luxury item. Instead, it looks at the history and the physics of the yo-yo, and includes many references. A good read for a weekend! This overview contains other details and extra references about the Freehand yo-yo."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  2. Pricing by octalc0de · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The original Freehand yo-yo was the only yo-yo in the world that didn't need to be tied to your hand. With its patented counter-weight system, you can let go of the yo-yo in mid-trick, making the impossible look easy"

    No wonder it costs $400! It's got an amazing antigravity device that allows the yo-yo to remain suspended in air after you drop it.

    1. Re:Pricing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can (and many people do) make any old yoyo into a freehand with a little weighted fob looped at the end of the string. A six-sided die drilled through the center is the canonical example.

  3. "hogh-tech yo-yo" by The+Gline · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's made from porcinite!

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  4. Yomega yoyos rock too, at a much better price by Grant29 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wow, that a nice yoyo. I have had good experience with the Yomega's before. It always seemed a lot smoother than a Duncan. I preferred using a bufferfly model at virst to get down the tricks, but the classic model is the way to eventually go. I could do lots of tricks at one time, but I could never do the dual tricks that required using a second yoyo with your left hand. BTW, a nice Yomega will set you back less than $20.

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    1. Re:Yomega yoyos rock too, at a much better price by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Informative

      As the owner of a Yomega Raider (~$10), a Spintastics (~$14), various Duncans (~$5), a few BC Spitfires (~$4), and a Custom Goldeneye (~$60), I can say that in metal-axle and ball bearing yoyos, you definitely get what you pay for. Duncans are not as good as yomega, for sure, but Yomega is not the top of the heap. I would look into an aluminum Custom, IIWY.

      In wood-axle yoyos, you can get an amazing amount of play for cheap. The BC spitfire is still my favorite looper. I also found an unlabeled black wood saber-shape (with wooden transaxle) at a liquidation sale for $5, that rivaled the Spintastics for sleep time.

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    2. Re:Yomega yoyos rock too, at a much better price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Anyone know if they suffer from the click of death?

    3. Re:Yomega yoyos rock too, at a much better price by stuffman64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I sprung for a ProYo Cold Fusion (about $120) when it came out. I was shocked at its performance- I could easily make it sleep for up to 3 minutes right out of the box. Once the berings broke in, 4 to 5 minutes was not uncommon. It has the world record at the time, I think something like 7 minutes and change. I've heard of unofficial times approaching 10 minutes. This thing could do tricks that were up the then impossible on other yoyos.

      That said, $120 is a good deal of money to drop on a yoyo. Unless you are really serious about your tricks, you are better of with something like a Team Losi Cherry Bomb, of which you can buy about 8 for the same price of the Cold Fusion. I do not yoyo as much as I did a few years back, but I'd love to take this new one for a spin (pardon the pun) to see what it is capable of.

      As in the car world, you usually get what you pay for, in terms of performance and prestige. Cheap Duncans are like used Yugos, they might get you where you need to go, but not much else. Cold Fusions, and this new Freehand Mg are like the Lamborghinis and McLarens - you get killer performance, drop-dead style - but you pay the price.

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  5. Cause Yo-Yo-ing is just sooo cool. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Funny
    Wow...

    An activity OTHER than browsing slashdot that will guarantee I'll never get laid again.

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    1. Re:Cause Yo-Yo-ing is just sooo cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      An activity OTHER than browsing slashdot that will guarantee I'll never get laid again.

      "again" !?!

      Scandalous.

    2. Re:Cause Yo-Yo-ing is just sooo cool. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny
      "again" !?!

      With a yo-yo in my hand, the animal might not hold still. :P

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    3. Re:Cause Yo-Yo-ing is just sooo cool. by boredMDer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Again?

      Lucky bastard.

    4. Re:Cause Yo-Yo-ing is just sooo cool. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny
      The again implies that you got laid once before. You must be new here.

      You should have tried comparing our UIDs before saying something like that.

      I could have had a 3 digit UID, you know?

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  6. Evolution is a Cyclical Process by osewa77 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Modern technology has brought us to the point where, finally, we have better yo-yos .. again!

    1. Re:Evolution is a Cyclical Process by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yeah, that Darwin is a sneaky bastard. Yet ANOTHER way of filtering out those of us who won't get to pass on our genes.

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  7. TK created many innovations in the Yo-Yo industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article is slightly mistaken, the Silver Bullet II (All metal yo-yo) and a number of other wooden TK Yo-Yos models had steel axles with replaceable ball bearings and a finely adjustable string gap based on a threaded inset that could be adjusted with a coin - this was the real innovation the adjustable string gap and it was the main innovation that they patented.
    The ratcheting, telescoping and other means of trying to adjust the string gap were too imprecise and difficult to set and retain on a quickly moving high g-force yo-yo. An amazing amount of work and prototyping (years) went into that yo-yo and even though they patented aspects of it, other yo-yo companies went right ahead and copied the design and innovations. The Silver Bullets came in these cool anodized versions, too.

  8. Interesting facts: by WegianWarrior · · Score: 4, Informative

    The yoyo is one of the oldest known toys. It's also not evolved from a weapon, country to popular myth.

    All the stuff I know that is useless... I don't need no yoyo to prevent me from getting laid ;)

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    1. Re:Interesting facts: by tloh · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The yoyo is one of the oldest known toys. It's also not evolved from a weapon, country to popular myth.

      Yo-yos have been around for millennia. Historians have found evidence in a painting on a Greek bowl from around 500 B.C., for example. No one knows whether it was the ancient Greeks or Chinese or someone else who invented this toy.

      Really?? I have a very distinct memory of being first exposed to this "myth". Years ago when I was in elementary school, I was a fan of author Donald J. Sobol. In addition to the Encyclopedia Brown mysteries, he had also penned a book consisting of nothing but obscure trivia facts. There was one blurb declaring the yo-yo as being of polynesian origin - originally used as a hunting tool. There was a cartoon showing a little boy perched from the safty of a tree branch deploying a stone yo-yo at the snout of a wild boar. Now I'm wondering how this myth got started such that it made it's way into the awarness of my boyhood literary hero.

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    2. Re:Interesting facts: by JuggleGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yoyo's as weapons are myths. http://www.nationalyoyo.org/museum/generalhistory. htm

  9. No one appreciates true geekness anymore by Graftweed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well that's just great! You spend the whole damn year learning elvish and then some annoying kid comes along with a $400 yo-yo and steals the show.

  10. Projected Sales? by i+love+pineapples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be interested in seeing how many of these Duncan expects to sell. After all, professional yo-yoers are a pretty niche market as it is, and I'd expect the number of people willing to spend $400 on one to be even smaller.

  11. Re:Ahead of the trend. by jrl87 · · Score: 3, Funny

    With all of the popularity all of you "early adapters" will recieve, you may have to use your new yo-yo for its original purpose ... to beat off your attackers .......

  12. uh oh by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a yo-yo to sleep at all is a fairly modern development.

    mmmm-yeeees, no doubt due to the great advances in the field of hypnotic drugs.

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  13. Extreme yo-yo-ing, Mr Bond by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Extreme yo-yoing"? Am I the only one who remembers the guy with the buzz-saw yoyo in the James Bond "Octopussy" movie?

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    1. Re:Extreme yo-yo-ing, Mr Bond by Seehund · · Score: 2, Funny

      Am I the only one who read the headline as "Extreme Yu-Gung" and thought it was about a new CD with Einstürzende Neubauten remixes?

      Let me answer that question: yes. ;)

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  14. We're banning Yo-yos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a notable public figure, I have to remain anonymous.

    Due to some injuries with yo-yo fanatics in our school systems, we have decided as a whole to ban yo-yos in our state in public buildings; schools included.

    Recently, a teacher had to have surgery done on her eye to fix a laceration caused by a yo-yo hitting her eye while a student was showing off in show in tell. It cost taxpayers $37,000 to repair the damage caused by an item no more than $4.

    Yo-yos being banned here will set a precedent.

  15. Yoyo Baggins by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yoyo Baggins, is that you?

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  16. Tournament music video (13 megs) by MagPulse · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. Re:Tournament music video (13 megs) by cebarro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm pretty sure if I tried ANY of that I'd end up with my fingers stuck in a knot and a yo-yo embedded in my forehead.

  17. Cool video - Japanese National Yo-Yo Contest by ReKleSS · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.antra.dk/-- get the video here, down the bottom of the page. It's 60mb or so, but it's pretty amazing. Some of those guys have way too much time on their hands. (But here I am reading /., so......) -ReK

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  18. Extra word..... by vwjeff · · Score: 2, Funny

    An activity OTHER than browsing slashdot that will guarantee I'll never get laid again.

    You added an extra word. Your post should have been as follows:

    An activity OTHER than browsing slashdot that will guarantee I'll never get laid.

    The word again gives you a false sense of hope because I know that if I continue to browse /. I will never get laid again.

  19. A word from the NYYA by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Then again, it's not the yo-yo that hurts the teacher, it's the student. I got it! Let's ban students from school!"

    Remember what the NYYA says: "If yo-yo's are outlawed, only outlaws will have yo-yos".

    We must protect the right to bear arms, and the right to arm bears.

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  20. The Freehand Isn't 400$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The freehand described in the article is a special yo-yo based on a popular yo-yo that is much cheaper. Chillax.

    See here.

  21. ehh.. doesnt sound that great, really by mybadluck22 · · Score: 2, Informative

    well, hmm. $400 for a yoyo is the most ive ever seen for a non-vintage yoyo. i think the next one was something like 150... Anyway, I jsut looked in my bag of yoyos (i used to be a competitive yoyoer... now i do it occasionally for fun) and I see a duncan freehand that doesnt look like the picture and cost about 15 bucks. this is the first yoyo ive seen that was designed for freehand use, but not even close to the first one used for that. This one i have might just be an earlier version, seeing as how it's made of plastic and all, but i think it's wrong to claim this as the first yoyo that you dont need to attach to your hand. Even older is the "off-string" style where the string is attached to your finger, but not to the yoyo. in this method, one throws the yoyo into the air, and catches it on the string, going on to perform one of several tricks. Either way, the most i ever paid for a yoyo was 45 bucks for an aluminum yoyo. excellent quality, but still... still, I dont know anyone in who would throw something so expensive around on a string, while not attached to your hand, that could be permanantly broken if you drop it. With a normal yoyo, at least it's attached to the thrower's finger, but this... it would make me nervous. oh, one more thing. about yomega, they make decent yoyos, and I learned on a yomega fireball, then a saberwing fireball (fireballs use a transaxle system, which is like a ring around the axel tied to the string, and the saber wing means it's a butterfly shape), but after learning, I have come to realize that there are much better yoyos availabe imho. I use a pro-yo "Stunt Pilot" for all my yoyoing these days. it's great to use, and it beats any yomega or duncan ive had the oppertunity to use.

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  22. Re:Ahead of the trend. by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...to beat off your attackers .......

    Uh, you may want to re-phrase that.

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  23. Apple's iYoYo by rh005 · · Score: 2, Funny

    can be seen here: Apple's iYoYo

  24. ...your hand is not connected to the yo-yo? by Crusty+Oldman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your hand is not connected to the yo-yo?

    So, what's the point?

    1. Re:...your hand is not connected to the yo-yo? by Little+Brother · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think its a Jedi thing. Hrmm think Luke is going to pick up the psudonym "Jedi Yo"?

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  25. Forged? by Hobbex · · Score: 3, Funny

    For 400 bucks, I want real magnesium alloy, damn it!

  26. cheaper solution by whovian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or, if you don't want to spend $400, you can see him play in person for about $40-50 or so.

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  27. Yoyo tricks and Diablo juggling by Terri416 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article mentions a form of yoyo trick where the yoyo leaves the string altogether and the tricks involve balancing the yoyo on the sting.

    This reminds me of diablo juggling. Think of a whacking great yoyo, about 8 inches diameter, and a 4 foot long string attached to 2 sticks. Loop the string around the diablo and move the string side to side rapidly to spin it up, then unloop the string and the tricks commence. Experienced performers can use a few diablos at once. I found some video here.

  28. The Strings the Thing by stuffduff · · Score: 5, Insightful
    While having a quality yo-yo is very important, I can't even count the times that I've seen even the best yo-yo with a totally shot string. The damn things have been used so much that it is no longer possible to loosten the string enought to get the yo-yo to sleepat all.

    Like ancient guitar strings on collectors guitars people tend to wait until the string breaks. So check out someplace like the yoyostore and by yourself some strings, especially if you've never purchased any strings since getting your yo-yo. You'll be glad you did!

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  29. Tom Kuhn deserves more credit by cgenman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article credits Tom Kuhn with the Silver Bullet 2, the first production yo-yo with a ball-bearing axle, but they don't truly give the man his due credit. He is also the creator of the world's largest functional yoyo, and the first yoyo you can disassemble. The article mentions that gap width is now adjustable, but doesn't mention that Tom Kuhn was the first person to do that (in the aformentioned SB2, nonetheless). His Silver Bullet 1 was the first yo-yo weighted out the outside, and the first manufactured from aircraft aluminum. Basically, he defined state-of-the-art for yo-yos up until the mid 90's, when his business started having problems (his San Fransisco shop closed down, sadly).

    If you are doing an article on bringing the YoYo from the 1950's fad to the mid 90's high-performance device, Tom deserves a lot of credit. He doesn't have the revolutionary influence that he once did, but that's like saying Chuck Barry doesn't have the influence that he once did. Both defined where we are today, and their industries would be tremendously different without them.

  30. Build your own! by cgenman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seriously, finding the right combination of string, loop tightness, gumming agents, and time will teach you a lot about what your yo-yo is actually doing. I used to create yoyo strings from kite string for the other kids in the neighborhood. I started with a traditional yoyo weight cotton fiber kite string, would soak it in water for several minutes, and then would twist it to a 4 foot length (slightly longer than usual). Then I would dry it slightly, coat it in honey, and leave it outside overnight. In the morning, a quick spray of hairspray would add even more to the tackyness, and the string would be ready to go. Metal cores would chew through the string like knives through butter, but maple axles would have significantly improved spin times. You would have to wind it a little more tightly than normal to wake it up at all, but improved sleep times were far more valuable than a somewhat groggy wake. Besides, if you caught it in free-flight it woke up without problem.

  31. Re:That's the cheapest $400 yo-yo I've ever seen.. by Analog+Penguin · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you'd read the article (hell, even the Slashdot blub!), you'd see that the $400 yo-yo has not yet been released. The $16 one you found is an example of the first model utilizing the design of a counterweight, which the $400 not-yet-released model also uses.

  32. Re:Ahead of the trend. by DumbWhiteGuy777 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Funny and true. Yo-yo's were major weapons in the Earthbound Series.

    And if it's in Earthbound, it must be true.

  33. Re:Hmm... by splerdu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and spending $400 on the newest video card isn't?

  34. no yoyo'ers will actually buy one by kniteshade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This new $400 yoyo that duncan are releasing isn't really designed for 'serious yoyo'ers', duncan made it purely so they could get lots of publicity (just like this article) for having the worlds most expensive retail yoyo. (and probably a world record aswell) They probably will produce just enough to give one to each of their competition team members, and enought that all the hardkore yoyo collectors to buy.

    A few other notes:
    all the major freestyle competition winners have used yoyo's such as duncans freehand1's (no longer in production) yoyojam hitmans's, yoyojam nightmoves etc etc - all yoyo's ranging from around 20-40bucks.
    The most expensive yoyo's that any actual player would buy would probably be Dif-e-yo's (www.difeyo.com) - they are very very nice